Alpine v/s Pioneer

speedzak · 29th August 2007, 13:45

I would like to have babies with Julia (already have 2 with somebody else!) provided she is ready for a plastic surgery on her mouth. Yeah, It's a bit too big and awkward for my liking.

I like Pioneer for their VFM, features and infinite bling factor. But when it comes to build quality, sound and substance, nothing to take my heart away from an Alpine!
983x series were a bit bright but built like a brick. 985x series sounded better but the build quality dropped a bit. Hope the 988x series will sort out most of the irregularities and quality problems. Out of many whom I spoke to are happy with the newer ones. Will soon have an update from my side.

Bass&Trouble · 29th August 2007, 14:10

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Originally Posted by speedzak

I would like to have babies with Julia (already have 2 with somebody else!) provided she is ready for a plastic surgery on her mouth. Yeah, It's a bit too big and awkward for my liking.

I'm sure she will consider your kind offer, now we have to figure out a way to get her to read your post somehow.

mithun · 29th August 2007, 18:02

ICE Gurus swear by Alpine here. But Alpine's SQ is getting bad nowadays when compared to it's premium price.

So if not Alpine, what's the next option ?

gopz · 29th August 2007, 18:06

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Originally Posted by mithun

ICE Gurus swear by Alpine here. But Alpine's SQ is getting bad nowadays when compared to it's premium price.

So if not Alpine, what's the next option ?

Mithun, dont you think that the prices have gone down too? I heard that 988x series are doing well and we can get them for about $200, with iPod support, 3 pre outs and good colour displays along with all other features...probably it still is a better buy than Pioneer.

JPL · 29th August 2007, 18:08

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Originally Posted by mithun

ICE Gurus swear by Alpine here. But Alpine's SQ is getting bad nowadays when compared to it's premium price.

So if not Alpine, what's the next option ?

Eclipse dude..I ask again anyone anybody some dope on eclipse hu's?

panky12345 · 29th August 2007, 18:16

stick to the reputed brands and you'll be happy!

Akshay1234 · 29th August 2007, 18:20

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Originally Posted by navin

the 9856 / 57 had some problems but that seems to have sorted out int eh 9881-87. prior ot the 9856 / 57 (which gunbir think sounds nicer/less bright than the older 9833 /35) the older 9833 / 35 were reliable products.

OT - what were the problems in the 9856/7. i have a 9856 so id if you could tell me the problems your talking about it would be nice.

iraghava · 29th August 2007, 22:24

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Originally Posted by JPL

Eclipse dude..I ask again anyone anybody some dope on eclipse hu's?

I was recently told by a friend that a Delhi dealer, Auto Marc aka Sanjay is selling Eclipse HU's. Prices or more details I have no idea about right now, But I believe LBM can dish out some more details.

speedzak · 29th August 2007, 22:29

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Originally Posted by JPL

Eclipse dude..I ask again anyone anybody some dope on eclipse hu's?

It is a good sounding HU. And the build quality is ok too. One of my close friends and a BHPian owns it. It is a good alternative from Pioneer and Alpine. Kenwood also makes some good higher end HUs. Their lower end is not that great.

JPL · 30th August 2007, 12:34

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Originally Posted by speedzak

It is a good sounding HU. And the build quality is ok too. One of my close friends and a BHPian owns it. It is a good alternative from Pioneer and Alpine. Kenwood also makes some good higher end HUs. Their lower end is not that great.

I hope he says more about it !!

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Originally Posted by iraghava

I was recently told by a friend that a Delhi dealer, Auto Marc aka Sanjay is selling Eclipse HU's. Prices or more details I have no idea about right now, But I believe LBM can dish out some more details.

LBM Paajee waiting for your kind words.

navin · 30th August 2007, 13:48

the 9856/57 had some problems with CD eject from what i was told if the internal map was not used (external amps used) this problem never surfaced.

Alpine is not THAT bad. But if you are looking for other brands that sound good you can try Clarion, Eclipse, and even a few Kenwood models.

One reason I might was not affected too much by the brightness of the 9833/5 was that I modified he crossovers of the components I used. Maybe it was becuase of this brightness that I felt the need to modify the XOs.

low_bass_makker · 30th August 2007, 14:00

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Originally Posted by JPL

LBM Paajee waiting for your kind words.

Had not talk with him about it but will let you know.

gopz · 30th August 2007, 14:07

Do Clarion & Eclipse have service centers in India? If not, I would stick to Alpine

navin · 30th August 2007, 14:08

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Originally Posted by gopz

Do Clarion & Eclipse have service centers in India?

both service and availability is a bit "iffy"

mithun · 30th August 2007, 16:03

What is the starting price point for Eclipse HUs ?

29th August 2007, 13:45	#16
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	I would like to have babies with Julia (already have 2 with somebody else!) provided she is ready for a plastic surgery on her mouth. Yeah, It's a bit too big and awkward for my liking. I like Pioneer for their VFM, features and infinite bling factor. But when it comes to build quality, sound and substance, nothing to take my heart away from an Alpine! 983x series were a bit bright but built like a brick. 985x series sounded better but the build quality dropped a bit. Hope the 988x series will sort out most of the irregularities and quality problems. Out of many whom I spoke to are happy with the newer ones. Will soon have an update from my side.
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29th August 2007, 18:02	#18
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	ICE Gurus swear by Alpine here. But Alpine's SQ is getting bad nowadays when compared to it's premium price. So if not Alpine, what's the next option ?
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29th August 2007, 18:16	#21
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	stick to the reputed brands and you'll be happy!
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30th August 2007, 13:48	#26
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,307 Times	the 9856/57 had some problems with CD eject from what i was told if the internal map was not used (external amps used) this problem never surfaced. Alpine is not THAT bad. But if you are looking for other brands that sound good you can try Clarion, Eclipse, and even a few Kenwood models. One reason I might was not affected too much by the brightness of the 9833/5 was that I modified he crossovers of the components I used. Maybe it was becuase of this brightness that I felt the need to modify the XOs.
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gopz BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: India Posts: 452 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Do Clarion & Eclipse have service centers in India? If not, I would stick to Alpine
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mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	What is the starting price point for Eclipse HUs ?
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