[Fillmore]

My 2cents when purchasing car speakers.

There are a lot of 'made in china' Fakes of JBL and Sony Xplod.

The chances of buying a fake Blaupunkt is much lesser in comparison.

So make sure you select a reputed dealer. Since you are in bangalore its best not to pickup speakers from stores in JC Road although they will give you the best prices.

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by Fillmore

My 2cents when purchasing car speakers.

There are a lot of 'made in china' Fakes of JBL and Sony Xplod.

The chances of buying a fake Blaupunkt is much lesser in comparison.

So make sure you select a reputed dealer. Since you are in bangalore its best not to pickup speakers from stores in JC Road although they will give you the best prices.

While in principle you are correct about buying from a reputed dealer- That is a pretty inaccurate 2 cents

There are no fakes of either Sony Xplod or JBL. There are however some speakers that look similar to Sony Xplod, but they are not branded SOny, or Xplod.
There are no fake JBL speakers in the market.

Interestingly all 3 brands, Sony, Blaupunkt and JBL have factories in China and thats where the "original" speakers are made. NO matter where in the world you buy them from. Just like Apple's computers and iPods.
Blaupunkt also has a large facility in Malaysia and many of their products are manufactured there.

Your chances of getting a duplicate speaker of these brands is remote.

[WasavaTyres]

gee thanks sam,I just convinced a friend to put in JB:'s in his NHC and was wondering if we'd been taken for a ride ater reading the post above your's. thanks again.

[low_bass_makker]

They are made in china because the production is large and costs cheaper to the manufacturer.

[Fillmore]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

There are no fakes of either Sony Xplod or JBL. There are however some speakers that look similar to Sony Xplod, but they are not branded SOny, or Xplod.

Checkout the experience of fellow Team BHP'ians regarding fake speakers on JC Rd.
- mclaren1885
- hell_on_wheels
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...-cities-4.html

Here's how you come across the fakes, Walk into couple of small shops on JC Road. Ask for car speakers just specifying the brand say 'Sony' and ask him what is the best price? Haggle a bit on the price and he will soon bring out his fakes at attractive prices.

Sony Xplod and Pioneer I know 100% for sure there are fakes on sale. JBL maybe not as many fakes around in comparison.

Also agree that Original speakers are manufactured in China don't dispute this. What I meant was you also get duplicates from the same land.

cheers:

[Sam Kapasi]

Fillmore, there are some fake pioneer speakers in the market.
Not Sony and not JBL. I know what I am talking about.

[DRAGONLORD]

I think they are mistaking grey market products and rates for fakes.

[five46]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

I know what I am talking about.

Er... Samji.. Can you please elaborate?
I'll send you a pic of my JBL CS2104s Grill, had PMed about this to Navinji earlier when you were on Vacation. Also, I started to give my CS 60.4 a long look doubting whether it's a D maal.

[Sam Kapasi]

Originally Posted by five46

Er... Samji.. Can you please elaborate?

What's to elaborate. It's my job to know if there are any JBL fakes in the market.

[navin]

Originally Posted by five46

Er... Samji.. Can you please elaborate?

The company Sam works for represents JBL (along with most Harman Intl. brands) in India. AKG, BSS and DBX might be the only 3 Harman brands they do NOT represent.

Sam, correct me.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Fillmore, there are some fake pioneer speakers in the market.
Not Sony and not JBL. I know what I am talking about.

Yes there are definitely some Pioneer fake speakers in the market, and they are manufactured in Delhi. In fact, they are manufactured by my friend's uncle. The easiest test is to look at the speaker grill. If it is rusted, it is most definitely a fake. (My friend told me this)

[Bass&Trouble]

Originally Posted by nishantgandhi

Yes there are definitely some Pioneer fake speakers in the market, and they are manufactured in Delhi. In fact, they are manufactured by my friend's uncle. The easiest test is to look at the speaker grill. If it is rusted, it is most definitely a fake. (My friend told me this)

Well, he said some from the point of view that the numbers now are nothing compared to a decade ago and over.

Speaker grills wouldnt usually leave the factory rusted. They would rust if they've been sitting around very long. And its not like there's just one company making duplicate speakers, so there will be different ways to tell one duplicate and another from the original.

[nishantgandhi]

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Speaker grills wouldnt usually leave the factory rusted. They would rust if they've been sitting around very long.

Of course thats what I meant! Who would buy speakers with rusted grills?. This is more like a post-purchase determination method.
(I learnt this from my own experience, as my current Pio speaker grills got rusted within 3 years, whereas my previous Pioneer grills were perfect even after 5+ years of usage)

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

And its not like there's just one company making duplicate speakers, so there will be different ways to tell one duplicate and another from the original.

Yes surely there are a bunch of companies out there making fake Pioneers. Another (pre purchase) way I have heard is to fire up the HU volume to the max and if the sound starts to crack up/crumble down, it is most definitely fake. However, I have not tried this method.

[five46]

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

What's to elaborate. It's my job to know if there are any JBL fakes in the market.

I know Samji is = JBL, Lol!

Samji, this (highlighted in Bold) is what I wanted you to explain...

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

There are no fakes of either Sony Xplod or JBL. There are however some speakers that look similar to Sony Xplod, but they are not branded SOny, or Xplod.
There are no fake JBL speakers in the market.

Interestingly all 3 brands, Sony, Blaupunkt and JBL have factories in China and thats where the "original" speakers are made. NO matter where in the world you buy them from. Just like Apple's computers and iPods.
Blaupunkt also has a large facility in Malaysia and many of their products are manufactured there.

Your chances of getting a duplicate speaker of these brands is remote.

Was just wondering on how are you so sure of unavailability of JBL fakes?
Some Alien then duped me kya?

[JPL]

Originally Posted by five46

I know Samji ..
Was just wondering on how are you so sure of unavailability of JBL fakes?
Some Alien then duped me kya?

Can you post the pics of the CS series speakers and amp? (doodh ka doodh aur paani ka paani !!)