Music System for Zen?

pingme · 2nd March 2005, 16:54

Gus and Gals,

by taking inputs from Team-BHP, I have finally booked Zen LX

and now looking for music system, please help me in making right choice

My Needs:

1. CD/MP3 Player
2. Four speakers
3. Better if its branded thro white channel

My budget is around 12K and I am thinking about Sony what do you think about sony systems ??

Also, I am confused on how and where to put rear speakers

dev · 2nd March 2005, 17:17

U should be purchasing and installing from maruthi show room right?
If u do it outside, your warranty is not valid.

Am I correct?

pingme · 2nd March 2005, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by dev

U should be purchasing and installing from maruthi show room right?
If u do it outside, your warranty is not valid.

Am I correct?

yes thats what my understanding is :( . At most, I can buy from outside and let Maruti guys install it

dev · 2nd March 2005, 17:35

I won't think those will be happy to install outside item. Since you are taking Petrol version, they may come down.
I heared Pioneer is best with Sony Speakers.

gamerno1 · 2nd March 2005, 20:12

u got some options in ur budget, i will leave it for u to decide:

Head Unit~
Pioneer 4650 = 6300 (RCA Cables Top Class, User Friendly)
Sony R330 = 6500 (Better G-Shock{anti-skip} than Pioneer)
many would suggest u to get 5650, but that HU is a waste without a subwoofer. (unless u want to add one in the near future)

Rear Speakers~
Pioneer 6990 5way = 3200 (most of our TBHPians own it, better than any sony speaker)
JBL GTO936 3way = 4000 (even better than the pioneer, deep bass)

Front Speakers~
Sony GF1621X 2way = 1200 (no competition, better than any pioneer or kenwood in this price range)

labour & wiring = 500-1000

setting up the rear speakers is upto u. in your rear tray or custom boxes on the sides. both can be tuned according to ur demands. if u need the rear space, tray is fine or else, i would suggest to put them in boxes.

*if i would be in ur place, i would pick the 4650 with the sony fronts & the JBL rears with custom 6x9 sealed boxes*

hope i could help
good luck (keep us updated & some pics too)
~cheers

greenh0rn · 3rd March 2005, 16:28

hi gamer, to Pingme's queries I'd like to add some more of mine...

1. I'm buying a zen too
2. I'll mostly play rock, metal and electronica, but would also at times western classical and ghazals
3. I've been fascinated by a local pub here in delhi playing outstanding 70's and 80's rock. I like their sound a lot, it's loud but not harsh, and the minute acoustic guitar riffs easily come out as heavy lead guitaring and drums. I want similar experience in my car, the sound should be clear even at a reasonably high volume, but i know the constraints applicable in a small car.

Given, this would you make any changes in the suggested set up? Also i'd not mind stretching my budget a bit, but only a reasonable bit

>>*if i would be in ur place, i would pick the 4650 with the sony fronts & the JBL rears with custom 6x9 sealed boxes*

Cheers! Rishi

gamerno1 · 3rd March 2005, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenh0rn

hi gamer, to Pingme's queries I'd like to add some more of mine...

1. I'm buying a zen too
2. I'll mostly play rock, metal and electronica, but would also at times western classical and ghazals
3. I've been fascinated by a local pub here in delhi playing outstanding 70's and 80's rock. I like their sound a lot, it's loud but not harsh, and the minute acoustic guitar riffs easily come out as heavy lead guitaring and drums. I want similar experience in my car, the sound should be clear even at a reasonably high volume, but i know the constraints applicable in a small car.

Given, this would you make any changes in the suggested set up? Also i'd not mind stretching my budget a bit, but only a reasonable bit

>>*if i would be in ur place, i would pick the 4650 with the sony fronts & the JBL rears with custom 6x9 sealed boxes*

Cheers! Rishi

ur demands r too high greenh0rn. its really not easy to lissen to so many genres in ur car & all cleanly.
however u gotto give more details like, do u think u need a subwoofer? i can answer the rest od ur questions after u answer me. also till where can u extend ur budget?

greenh0rn · 3rd March 2005, 19:34

if i were to hazard a guess, i'd say i need a sub. but I am not sure...I am surely not looking to match that pub's sound

just the outstanding clarity at a high volume..

And if i were to single out genres, rock and electronica will rule.. and for budget, can u please suggest best set-up for 3 ranges..I'll be sure which range to choose after a while:

1. 12k, 2. 15-16k, 3. 20k

gamerno1 · 3rd March 2005, 20:39

well rock & electronica is a total contrast

but i would suggest u to go for the same setup as mentioned above to pingme, only if u dont want to distort at high volumes, go for a sony 2 channel amp for ur JBL's. u will get double the output by spending extra 3k. i would also suggest pingme to do the same. its a one time investment after all.
~cheers

iceman91 · 3rd March 2005, 20:50

hey green horn....
if you dont mind can i suggest somethin...
go in for
1.a set of components in the front and back.
2. a 4 channel amplifier driving them.
3. a single sub
4. a monoblock for this sub
5. a high end head unit.
cos i have similar listening tastes sometimes a good mltr/kenny rogers or some good house or psychadelic stuff...it pretty much suits all this.
in fact you can ask rudra and psycho they have heard my car.

greenh0rn · 3rd March 2005, 21:00

sure iceman that' sounds good

But how much dough for this setup

iceman91 · 3rd March 2005, 21:47

a good pair of components are 7-8k so thats 15k for front and back
amolifiers will cost you another 12k for 2.
the sub ranging from 3-5 k
head unit is pioneer-9k sony-15k alpine-23k
wiring and labour upto you.

karthik247 · 29th March 2005, 18:39

go for Alpine ....its got so many functions and is simply THE BEST

navin · 30th March 2005, 01:32

for 10K
sony r3300+690g+160cx
or
sony r3300+6935+1621
or
JVC500+infinity 652.5+692.5

leave 2K for wires and installation.

for 10K more
sony 500W 4 ch amp+10" or 12" XSL woofer

BTW i have heard the pioneer 6990 and the GTO and the GTO really is a better machine than the 6990.

navin · 30th March 2005, 01:44

ofcourse if you have a bigger budget you can go crazy. i've seen some real big installs including one where the system cost more than the car. serious.

it was a 118NE (in 1989) with a system that at that time cost more than 5L. tara labs speaker wire etc....

alpine makes sense if you have 20K for for HU.

2nd March 2005, 16:54	#1
pingme BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 102 Thanked: 2 Times	Music System for Zen? Gus and Gals, by taking inputs from Team-BHP, I have finally booked Zen LX and now looking for music system, please help me in making right choice My Needs: 1. CD/MP3 Player 2. Four speakers 3. Better if its branded thro white channel My budget is around 12K and I am thinking about Sony what do you think about sony systems ?? Also, I am confused on how and where to put rear speakers
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2nd March 2005, 17:17	#2
dev BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR Posts: 109 Thanked: Once	U should be purchasing and installing from maruthi show room right? If u do it outside, your warranty is not valid. Am I correct?
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2nd March 2005, 17:35	#4
dev BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR Posts: 109 Thanked: Once	I won't think those will be happy to install outside item. Since you are taking Petrol version, they may come down. I heared Pioneer is best with Sony Speakers.
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2nd March 2005, 20:12	#5
gamerno1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Andheri (w), Mumbai Posts: 408 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	u got some options in ur budget, i will leave it for u to decide: Head Unit~ Pioneer 4650 = 6300 (RCA Cables Top Class, User Friendly) Sony R330 = 6500 (Better G-Shock{anti-skip} than Pioneer) many would suggest u to get 5650, but that HU is a waste without a subwoofer. (unless u want to add one in the near future) Rear Speakers~ Pioneer 6990 5way = 3200 (most of our TBHPians own it, better than any sony speaker) JBL GTO936 3way = 4000 (even better than the pioneer, deep bass) Front Speakers~ Sony GF1621X 2way = 1200 (no competition, better than any pioneer or kenwood in this price range) labour & wiring = 500-1000 setting up the rear speakers is upto u. in your rear tray or custom boxes on the sides. both can be tuned according to ur demands. if u need the rear space, tray is fine or else, i would suggest to put them in boxes. if i would be in ur place, i would pick the 4650 with the sony fronts & the JBL rears with custom 6x9 sealed boxes hope i could help good luck (keep us updated & some pics too) ~cheers
	() Thanks

3rd March 2005, 16:28	#6
greenh0rn BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 427 Thanked: 149 Times	hi gamer, to Pingme's queries I'd like to add some more of mine... 1. I'm buying a zen too 2. I'll mostly play rock, metal and electronica, but would also at times western classical and ghazals 3. I've been fascinated by a local pub here in delhi playing outstanding 70's and 80's rock. I like their sound a lot, it's loud but not harsh, and the minute acoustic guitar riffs easily come out as heavy lead guitaring and drums. I want similar experience in my car, the sound should be clear even at a reasonably high volume, but i know the constraints applicable in a small car. Given, this would you make any changes in the suggested set up? Also i'd not mind stretching my budget a bit, but only a reasonable bit >>if i would be in ur place, i would pick the 4650 with the sony fronts & the JBL rears with custom 6x9 sealed boxes Cheers! Rishi
	() Thanks

3rd March 2005, 19:34	#8
greenh0rn BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 427 Thanked: 149 Times	if i were to hazard a guess, i'd say i need a sub. but I am not sure...I am surely not looking to match that pub's sound just the outstanding clarity at a high volume.. And if i were to single out genres, rock and electronica will rule.. and for budget, can u please suggest best set-up for 3 ranges..I'll be sure which range to choose after a while: 1. 12k, 2. 15-16k, 3. 20k
	() Thanks

3rd March 2005, 20:39	#9
gamerno1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Andheri (w), Mumbai Posts: 408 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	well rock & electronica is a total contrast but i would suggest u to go for the same setup as mentioned above to pingme, only if u dont want to distort at high volumes, go for a sony 2 channel amp for ur JBL's. u will get double the output by spending extra 3k. i would also suggest pingme to do the same. its a one time investment after all. ~cheers
	() Thanks

3rd March 2005, 20:50	#10
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	hey green horn.... if you dont mind can i suggest somethin... go in for 1.a set of components in the front and back. 2. a 4 channel amplifier driving them. 3. a single sub 4. a monoblock for this sub 5. a high end head unit. cos i have similar listening tastes sometimes a good mltr/kenny rogers or some good house or psychadelic stuff...it pretty much suits all this. in fact you can ask rudra and psycho they have heard my car.
	() Thanks

3rd March 2005, 21:00	#11
greenh0rn BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 427 Thanked: 149 Times	sure iceman that' sounds good But how much dough for this setup
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3rd March 2005, 21:47	#12
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	a good pair of components are 7-8k so thats 15k for front and back amolifiers will cost you another 12k for 2. the sub ranging from 3-5 k head unit is pioneer-9k sony-15k alpine-23k wiring and labour upto you.
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29th March 2005, 18:39	#13
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	go for Alpine ....its got so many functions and is simply THE BEST
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30th March 2005, 01:32	#14
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,304 Times	for 10K sony r3300+690g+160cx or sony r3300+6935+1621 or JVC500+infinity 652.5+692.5 leave 2K for wires and installation. for 10K more sony 500W 4 ch amp+10" or 12" XSL woofer BTW i have heard the pioneer 6990 and the GTO and the GTO really is a better machine than the 6990. Last edited by navin : 30th March 2005 at 01:41.
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30th March 2005, 01:44	#15
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,304 Times	ofcourse if you have a bigger budget you can go crazy. i've seen some real big installs including one where the system cost more than the car. serious. it was a 118NE (in 1989) with a system that at that time cost more than 5L. tara labs speaker wire etc.... alpine makes sense if you have 20K for for HU. Last edited by navin : 30th March 2005 at 01:46.
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