jbl amp query

makanaka · 24th August 2008, 17:57

hello friends,
id like to know whats the price of a new jbl amplifier GTO3501 and how is this product, anyone using it please shed some light on this product, is there any other nice subwoofer amps in the similiar price range, any suggestions / advice is most welcomed

nitrous · 24th August 2008, 20:08

It costs about 8k in grey,I believe. 360W RMS@2 ohms.
Dinu's civic has this mono amp. Search for his thread in the show off section.

makanaka · 24th August 2008, 20:55

thanks for the tip , i checked out his post , its a nice job but he didnt posted any review or his opinion abt the amp itself, i gotta drive a dvc pioneer 400 w rms sub n i think this would suffice, so any reviews bro ??

blueraven316 · 25th August 2008, 00:29

If I was buying grey itself then I would choose the GTO301.1 over the GTO3501
Finding a 301 might not be easy but some numbers still floating around in the market. Tentative pricing would be around 9k.

beanstalk_230 · 25th August 2008, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueraven316

If I was buying grey itself then I would choose the GTO301.1 over the GTO3501
Finding a 301 might not be easy but some numbers still floating around in the market. Tentative pricing would be around 9k.

What would be the major gain when buying 301.1 over 3501 since finding 301.1 is

Sam Kapasi · 25th August 2008, 01:45

The only gain buying a 301.1 over the 3501 is price.
In all other respects the 3501 is a newer and slightly more powerful amplifier.

rider60 · 25th August 2008, 02:25

i have a jbl gto 301.1 and i would choose this amp over the latter because it looks awesome in comparison and is an awesome performer at a lower price.

as per the performance part both the amps are really awesome, i ran a pio ts-w307d2 its a dvc sub, on this 301.1 amp in my swift for some time and i just use to get the kind of massage i looked for it had that kick.

and now it runs in my viva, it does not give me the same kind of massage as viva is a bigger car but still has that kick and i have changed the sub to hi fonics as the impedance did not match with this sub. well i would give it 4 out of 5 rating.

i am kind of not all that satisfied with the sub some how and will change it to a power series sub or a different brand that is a DVC and has dual 4 ohms voice coils when i get the $$.

at that price that is a very good mono to get the others from other brands would definitely cost a lot more for the same kind of performance but might have a little better SQ and other improvements.

if you think you want more bass then you can eye the GTO7001 mono which is 700w rms mono or the GTO 601.1 mono, one of them will do a very good job even in a sedan. and they cost around 15k or a little more.

hope this helps.

rider60 · 25th August 2008, 03:23

hey i was a little wrong when i said the other brands would cost a lot more for the same kind of performance, its like the JBL at this price and this performance is kind of a bench mark for me, at this price this is one of best performers and an awesome upgrade from pios blaus and likes.

if you want more sq and much better quality at the same watts the other brands provide that at a much higher price.

Saint Reddy · 25th August 2008, 11:53

Hi guys i feel the JBL 3501 is not good as it seems i have identified certain points please look

Specifications

01. 225 Wrms X 1 @ 4 ohms
02. SN Ratio is 104 dBA @ 4 ohms not at 2 ohms
03. THD 0.04% @ 4 ohms not at 2 ohms
04. No Sub Sonic filter
05. Cannot be Bridged
06. Price in Grey is Rs: 9,000/-

Instead i have a alternatives for the price

Kenwood 8104 D

Specifications

01. 300 Wrms x 1 @ 4 ohms & 500 Watts @ 2 ohms
02. SN Ratio is 98 dBA @ 4 Ohms 106 dBA @ 2 ohms
03. THD 1.0% @ 4 ohms
04. With Sub Sonic Filter 15 to 25 Hz with 18 dB/octave
05. Can be bridged
06. Price in Grey is Rs: 10,000/-

i hope you understand the JBL has a lot to play with Specifications......

navin · 25th August 2008, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Reddy

JBL 3501
01. 225 Wrms X 1 @ 4 ohms
02. SN Ratio is 104 dBA @ 4 ohms not at 2 ohms
03. THD 0.04% @ 4 ohms not at 2 ohms
04. No Sub Sonic filter
05. Cannot be Bridged
06. Price in Grey is Rs: 9,000/-

Kenwood 8104 D
01. 300 Wrms x 1 @ 4 ohms & 500 Watts @ 2 ohms
02. SN Ratio is 98 dBA @ 4 Ohms 106 dBA @ 2 ohms
03. THD 1.0% @ 4 ohms
04. With Sub Sonic Filter 15 to 25 Hz with 18 dB/octave
05. Can be bridged
06. Price in Grey is Rs: 10,000/-......

How does one bridge a mono amp?
sub sonic filters (rumble filtes) were fine inteh days of LPs but todays CDs and MP3s do not need these.
What is the 2 ohms rating of the 3501?

low_bass_makker · 25th August 2008, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

What is the 2 ohms rating of the 3501?

The JBL is 360 watts rms at 2 ohms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Reddy

Hi guys i feel the JBL 3501 is not good as it seems i have identified certain points please look

JBL3501

Kenwood 8104 D

The kenwood is 500 at 1 % thd and the JBL is 360 at .04 % so the JBL would be having a reserve to have a little more power.

Also I don't think Kenwood is as powerful as mentioned having heard the Kenwood 9103 mono is my friends car the amp was not perfrom what is should perfrom at 4 ohms and 500 rms.

So I would recommmend to go for JBL.

gunbir · 25th August 2008, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Reddy

Hi guys i feel the JBL 3501 is not good as it seems i have identified certain points please look

Instead i have a alternatives for the price
Kenwood 8104 D

I would reckon both amps will give around 350w @ 2ohms. The Kenwood has a couple of features that one may or may not use. You will be fine with either amp.

nitrous · 25th August 2008, 18:45

Be sure to run atleast 8gauge ie. 10mm.sq power and grounding wire for the amp.
Mono amps are quite power hungry and should be fed properly.

beanstalk_230 · 25th August 2008, 23:40

So we see that GTO3501 has an upper hand here.

Now the other important question

. Which DVC sub (I hope I am right

by excluding the 'S') would be a suited match to this amp considering the budget for the sub is around 5-6k. (enclosure would be bought separately)

I auditioned the GZ MK II (5-6K) which is a SVC AFAIK, but i really loved its performance. But unfortunately gurus do not recommend it with a mono. So is there an DVC amp matching the performance of the GZ and still costing nearly the same ...??

rider60 · 26th August 2008, 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanstalk_230

So we see that GTO3501 has an upper hand here.

Now the other important question

. Which DVC sub (I hope I am right

by excluding the 'S') would be a suited match to this amp considering the budget for the sub is around 5-6k. (enclosure would be bought separately)

I auditioned the GZ MK II (5-6K) which is a SVC AFAIK, but i really loved its performance. But unfortunately gurus do not recommend it with a mono. So is there an DVC amp matching the performance of the GZ and still costing nearly the same ...??

JBL Car & Marine Audio

thats the sub you should be looking at for this amp. or a sub with similar specs, at least the impedance of the sub from another brand should be as the one above if its a dvc. it will go really well with that amp i am eying one and looking forward to get one to replace my current sub.

24th August 2008, 17:57	#1
makanaka BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dehra Dun Posts: 154 Thanked: 7 Times	jbl amp query hello friends, id like to know whats the price of a new jbl amplifier GTO3501 and how is this product, anyone using it please shed some light on this product, is there any other nice subwoofer amps in the similiar price range, any suggestions / advice is most welcomed
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24th August 2008, 20:08	#2
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	It costs about 8k in grey,I believe. 360W RMS@2 ohms. Dinu's civic has this mono amp. Search for his thread in the show off section.
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24th August 2008, 20:55	#3
makanaka BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dehra Dun Posts: 154 Thanked: 7 Times	thanks for the tip , i checked out his post , its a nice job but he didnt posted any review or his opinion abt the amp itself, i gotta drive a dvc pioneer 400 w rms sub n i think this would suffice, so any reviews bro ??
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25th August 2008, 00:29	#4
blueraven316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,110 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	If I was buying grey itself then I would choose the GTO301.1 over the GTO3501 Finding a 301 might not be easy but some numbers still floating around in the market. Tentative pricing would be around 9k.
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25th August 2008, 01:45	#6
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	The only gain buying a 301.1 over the 3501 is price. In all other respects the 3501 is a newer and slightly more powerful amplifier.
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25th August 2008, 02:25	#7
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	i have a jbl gto 301.1 and i would choose this amp over the latter because it looks awesome in comparison and is an awesome performer at a lower price. as per the performance part both the amps are really awesome, i ran a pio ts-w307d2 its a dvc sub, on this 301.1 amp in my swift for some time and i just use to get the kind of massage i looked for it had that kick. and now it runs in my viva, it does not give me the same kind of massage as viva is a bigger car but still has that kick and i have changed the sub to hi fonics as the impedance did not match with this sub. well i would give it 4 out of 5 rating. i am kind of not all that satisfied with the sub some how and will change it to a power series sub or a different brand that is a DVC and has dual 4 ohms voice coils when i get the $$. at that price that is a very good mono to get the others from other brands would definitely cost a lot more for the same kind of performance but might have a little better SQ and other improvements. if you think you want more bass then you can eye the GTO7001 mono which is 700w rms mono or the GTO 601.1 mono, one of them will do a very good job even in a sedan. and they cost around 15k or a little more. hope this helps.
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25th August 2008, 03:23	#8
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	hey i was a little wrong when i said the other brands would cost a lot more for the same kind of performance, its like the JBL at this price and this performance is kind of a bench mark for me, at this price this is one of best performers and an awesome upgrade from pios blaus and likes. if you want more sq and much better quality at the same watts the other brands provide that at a much higher price.
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25th August 2008, 11:53	#9
Saint Reddy BANNED Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 13 Thanked: 0 Times	JBL Amp not good as it seems Hi guys i feel the JBL 3501 is not good as it seems i have identified certain points please look Specifications 01. 225 Wrms X 1 @ 4 ohms 02. SN Ratio is 104 dBA @ 4 ohms not at 2 ohms 03. THD 0.04% @ 4 ohms not at 2 ohms 04. No Sub Sonic filter 05. Cannot be Bridged 06. Price in Grey is Rs: 9,000/- Instead i have a alternatives for the price Kenwood 8104 D Specifications 01. 300 Wrms x 1 @ 4 ohms & 500 Watts @ 2 ohms 02. SN Ratio is 98 dBA @ 4 Ohms 106 dBA @ 2 ohms 03. THD 1.0% @ 4 ohms 04. With Sub Sonic Filter 15 to 25 Hz with 18 dB/octave 05. Can be bridged 06. Price in Grey is Rs: 10,000/- i hope you understand the JBL has a lot to play with Specifications......
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25th August 2008, 18:45	#13
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Be sure to run atleast 8gauge ie. 10mm.sq power and grounding wire for the amp. Mono amps are quite power hungry and should be fed properly.
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25th August 2008, 23:40	#14
beanstalk_230 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lucknow/New Delhi Posts: 263 Thanked: 45 Times	So we see that GTO3501 has an upper hand here. Now the other important question. Which DVC sub (I hope I am right by excluding the 'S') would be a suited match to this amp considering the budget for the sub is around 5-6k. (enclosure would be bought separately) I auditioned the GZ MK II (5-6K) which is a SVC AFAIK, but i really loved its performance. But unfortunately gurus do not recommend it with a mono. So is there an DVC amp matching the performance of the GZ and still costing nearly the same ...??
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