[m2avg]

Hi All,

I am new to this forum and this is my very first thread. So please don't mind if I get anything wrong. But I need your help in deciding for a good audio system in my car. Just a few days ago I got the following installed in my car (ya I know its kind of late to ask now, but still I need your honest inputs):
Pioneer TS-D690R (as rear speakers)
Key Features
Speaker Type - Coaxial
Elements - 2-Way
Speaker Function - Mid-Range Speaker
Size - 6" x 9"
Nominal Power Handling - 80 Watt RMS
Technical Features
Peak Power Handling - 330 Watt
Frequency Response - 25 Hz - 32 kHz
Sensitivity - 92 dB
Impedance - 4 ohm (Dual Coil)
Components
Tweeter Design - Dome
Tweeter Size - 1.13"
Woofer Material - Composite
Magnet Material - Strontium Ferrite
Surround Material - Butyl Rubber

Pioneer TS-C160R (as front speakers)
General Features:
6-1/2" Aramid Fiber Composite Cone Woofer
Butyl Rubber Surround
CCAW (Copper-Clad Aluminum Wire)
Glass-Imide / Voice Coil Bobbin
VCCS™ (Voice Coil Cooling System) with Aluminum Dust Cap
Conex Damper
Projected Pole Yoke
1" Polyester Fiber Soft Dome Tweeter with Magnetic Fluid and Neodymium Magnet
Surface (Angled) or Flush Swirl Mounting
Outboard Crossover Network Included with -12dB/Oct. HPF and -12dB/Oct. LPF,
Tweeter Protection Circuit and Tweeter level adjustment (0, -3dB)
Aluminum Die-Cast Full-Depth Basket for Rich Bass Response
Gold-Plated Binding Posts
Specifications:
250 Watts Max. Music Power (60 Watts Nominal)
Frequency Response: 25HZ - 32kHz
Sensitivity (Efficiency): 90dB (1W/1m)
4ohm Rated

Pioneer GM-X352 (Amplifier for rear & front speakers)
General Specifications
Continuous Power (14.4V): 40Wx2 (4ohm), 50Wx2 (2ohm), 100Wx1 (4ohm)
Max Power (14.4V): 80Wx2 (4ohm), 200Wx1 (4ohm)
Frequency Response: 10Hz - 50kHz (0,-1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.008% (1kHz, 4ohm)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 100dB (IHF-A)
Dimensions: 11" x 2-5/16" x 6-3/16"
Features
PWM MOSFET Power Supply
Bridgeable 1/2/3 Channel Capability
Balanced Isolator Input Circuit
Screw-Type Power/Ground Terminals
Screw-Type Speaker Terminals
RCA Inputs
Hi-Volt Input Level Control (400mV-6.5V)
Molex Type Speaker Level Inputs
Selectable LPF: 80Hz, -12dB/oct. (LPF)

JBL GT5-1204BR (Subwoofer with enclosure)
General Specifications
Subwoofer Type GTO1204 (300mm)
Power Handling, RMS 275W
Power Handling, Peak 1100W
Sensitivity (2.83V/1m) 90dB
Frequency Response 45Hz – 150Hz
Impedance 4 Ohms
Dimensions (H x W x D) 570 x 305 x 369mm (22-7/16" x 12" x 14-1/2")
Enclosure Design Vented

JBL GT5-A402 (Amplifier for subwoofer)
General Specifications
Amplifier Type Class AB
RMS Power @ 4Ohms 2x40W
RMS Power @ 2Ohms 2x60W
Peak Power 240W
Crossover (12dB/Oct., 20 – 320Hz; Front): LP/HP/Flat
Signal-to-Noise (dBA) 85dBA
Auxiliary Line-Level Outputs No
Bass Boost (+6dB @50Hz) Yes, switch


Guys, how do you find the above configuration? Your opinions AND suggestions are highly appreciated.


[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Abhijeet/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]BTW just last week I took all you amazing guys' help to fit a new HID kit!!! So you all know how much I am counting on you guys...

If possible please let me know the prices for the above. As for my listening preferences, I am looking for a balanced sound with rich tight bass and soothing mids and highs. Most of my listening would be at a low volume though occasionally I would like to have a blast!!

Thank you
m2avg

[flipsyde]

Why Pioneer? So many better options in a similar price range...JBL, Polk Audio etc. I think a good place to start would be for you to give us a budget and maybe the kind of music you mostly listen to. The gurus should help you get exactly what you want.

Good Luck!

[DjNik]

Have You already got everything installed or only some of the stuff?

[m2avg]

Originally Posted by flipsyde

Why Pioneer? So many better options in a similar price range...JBL, Polk Audio etc. I think a good place to start would be for you to give us a budget and maybe the kind of music you mostly listen to. The gurus should help you get exactly what you want.

Good Luck!

Thank you flipsyde. Actually this is sort of step-by-step upgrade. The rear speakers and the pioneer amplifier were installed like 3-4 years ago. Last week I got the new front speakers and the JBL amp and subwoofer. The installer suggested pioneer for the front speakers so that they will match with my existing rear speakers.

However I can still get the front speakers, the subwoofer and JBL amplifier changed till this saturday. The total cost of these 3 is Rs. 20K. And I was there specifically just for the HID kit!!! So hope you understand how enthu I am for good sound. I am ready to spend around 25K keeping in mind I already have a pair of rear speakers and an amplifier (both pioneer).

As for my music preference, I listen to hip-hop, rock and the usual latest hindi movie songs (mostly remixes).

@DjNik: I hope I have answered your question.

[abhinav.gupta88]

For Fronts , try JBL GTO 608c
and for rears , try JBL GTO 938 ( if you want to change them too)

And a 2 channel amp for 4 speakers?

[jkdas]

Its A C C E N T

Start here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...k-25k-30k.html

[m2avg]

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

For Fronts , try JBL GTO 608c
and for rears , try JBL GTO 938 ( if you want to change them too)

And a 2 channel amp for 4 speakers?

Ok this piece of information sounds important to me. So can I use that 2 channel amp to drive a subwoofer then? And which 4-channel amp would you suggest? Also how much would JBL GTO 608c cost?

Originally Posted by jkdas

Its A C C E N T

Start here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...k-25k-30k.html

Yes I went through that. But since I already have done the purchases, I am trying to fit in the best stuff in the most efficient way (which includes cost-wise)

[m2avg]

Mods... can you please edit the title to correct the spelling of "Accent"? It's sort of embarassing I am using this car since 2003 and got the spelling wrong!!

JKDAS did point it out to me yesterday but I was too sleepy to notice it!!

[DjNik]

Certainly compos in the front would sound better,you get either get the JBL 608c or the illusion EL 6.1.
I think your sub is underpowered.a mono or a good two channel would make a lot of diff in the bass.

[m2avg]

Originally Posted by DjNik

Certainly compos in the front would sound better,you get either get the JBL 608c or the illusion EL 6.1.
I think your sub is underpowered.a mono or a good two channel would make a lot of diff in the bass.

As I said, I have Pioneer TS-C160R in the front. Are JBL 608c and EL 6.1 better than my current compos? What would be the price? Also, any idea about the price of Pioneer TS-C160R? And which amp would you suggest for the sub?

[DjNik]

well firstly if you are happy with ur front speakers no need to change them at all.Your priority shoud be a better mono amp which will certainly make a lot of difference.Your choices are-
1.JBL 3001-Rs 10k approx(175w at 4ohm)
2.JBL 3501 13k approx(225w at 4ohm)

[m2avg]

Thank you DjNik... Why I am asking about the front speakers is because I can still get them changed till Saturday. As flipsyde said "Why Pioneer? So many better options in a similar price range..." (you listening flipsyde? )

Between a subwoofer TUBE (JBL CS1204T) and subwoofer BOX (JBL GT51204BR), which would you recommend? I am aware they are two different types and depend on my listening preferences; what are the pros/cons of the two?

I know I am asking a lot of questions, but I seriously want to get this through!!

Please, all Gurus, I would really appreciate more inputs.

[m2avg]

Originally Posted by DjNik

well firstly if you are happy with ur front speakers no need to change them at all.Your priority shoud be a better mono amp which will certainly make a lot of difference.Your choices are-
1.JBL 3001-Rs 10k approx(175w at 4ohm)
2.JBL 3501 13k approx(225w at 4ohm)

Any other good 2-channel amp you would suggest for this sub? Mono is a bit too costly for me right now.

[nura]

Originally Posted by m2avg

Any other good 2-channel amp you would suggest for this sub? Mono is a bit too costly for me right now.

You could think of the Pioneer GM-5300T, which should cost you about 7-8K.
GM-5300T

[mobike008]

Originally Posted by m2avg

Between a subwoofer TUBE (JBL CS1204T) and subwoofer BOX (JBL GT51204BR), which would you recommend? I am aware they are two different types and depend on my listening preferences; what are the pros/cons of the two?

Tubes are quite boomy and sub boxes provide a more tighter punch and is more enjoyable.

Also, the difference is quite simple, do you want to show-off to people outside the car or you want to enjoy the tight bass inside the car. ( tube for outside show and box for inside pleasure).

My personal recommendation is a sub-box, Take your pick!