My Car Computer installation

nisarg86 · 5th March 2009, 23:01

sdh. but will it work with Swift Diesel ? eager to know the result. as i want to buy OBD tool which supports in CF. Let us know the result ASAP.
Thanx.

gigy · 5th March 2009, 23:02

how much did you get this fm receiver for? i have just ordered it. had i known you were going for it, i would have waited for your review about its reception and compatibility with CF.

monty9991 · 5th March 2009, 23:38

i dont think ki OBDII scanner works with Swift DDsi with ELM scanner

sdh · 6th March 2009, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

how much did you get this fm receiver for? i have just ordered it. had i known you were going for it, i would have waited for your review about its reception and compatibility with CF.

Bought at Amazon in US and someone hand carried it. So price is same as waht you got, but cheaper shipping.

sdh · 6th March 2009, 08:40

Update:
GPS:
Installed and working perfectly
ELM Scan:
Connector found, located below stearing close to centre console
Scan tool connects and rx/tx leds blink nicely
No data displayed in Elm provided as well as CF.

ADS FM Radioi:
Oult of the 3 drivers it is supposed to install, one of them is not getting installed on the car PC.

So 33.33% success today morning.

sdh · 6th March 2009, 19:21

Update from evening:
No luck with Radio and OBD. Radio refuses to find stations, only hissing. OBD connects, rx/tx links blink on both ends, still no data in software. Tried various baud rates without luck. Swift had K line on pin 7 as expected by OBD II, so not sure what the issue is.
Any guidance?

ibm_jennifer · 7th March 2009, 02:02

Quote:

No luck with Radio

Radio should work, Try to move near the window or outdoor unless you have the MCX Di-Pole Antenna.

nisarg86 · 7th March 2009, 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdh

Update from evening:
No luck with Radio and OBD. Radio refuses to find stations, only hissing. OBD connects, rx/tx links blink on both ends, still no data in software. Tried various baud rates without luck. Swift had K line on pin 7 as expected by OBD II, so not sure what the issue is.
Any guidance?

SDH. Are you trying to get info only in CF ? Do try other software. OBD tool comes with CD.

sdh · 7th March 2009, 10:37

Tried various softwares on CD.

AT DP command returns AUTO, ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init)
this indicates 14230 protocol is selected where as I read somewhere that it is ISO 9141. Tried selecting this protocol and got bus error.

The tried Scanmaster ELM tool. Asked him to auto detect com port and protocol.
Detects right comport, 384000 baud, connects to tool,protocol detection says unknown protocol and then it disconnects. Tried forcing to ISO 9141, and got bus error.

I have searched around and found no hints so far. Will keep trying some more things in the mean time and home some one will give the clue to resolve the issue.

monty9991 · 7th March 2009, 22:07

OBDII doesnt works with most of the marutis. tested on ALTO n swift DDsi by me tested with no results. and on baleno tested by someone on teambhp.

sdh · 8th March 2009, 06:52

I put serial port sniffer and saw that data is exchanged between PC and OBD. I read somewhere that suzuki does not follow standard PIDs. May be that is culprit for no data.

sdh · 8th March 2009, 11:34

As per ELM documentation, I did some tests and here is the results:

Command: AT DP
Response: AUTO, ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init)
I read some where that this is protocol used by suzuki in new cars, so must be ok.

Command: 0100
Expected response: 41 00 followed by id's of supported PID's, each indicated by a byte
Response from my car: 7F 01 11

Command: AT MA (monitor all data)
Response:
00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00
00 3E 00 00
00 12 72 15 E0
00 12 D9 15 E0
00 12 D9 15 E0
08 40 00 <DATA ERROR
00 00 00
00 13 5F 15 E0
00 13 5F 15 E0
00 13 5F 15 E0
00 13 CF 15 E0
00 13 CF 15 E0
00 14 5B 15 E0
00 14 5B 15 E0
00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00
00 3E 00 00
00 14 CB 15 E0
00 14 CB 15 E0
00 15 53 15 E0
08 40 00 <DATA ERROR
00 00 00
00 15 53 15 E0
00 15 53 15 E0
00 15 D1 15 E0
00 15 D1 15 E0
00 16 66 15 E0
00 16 66 15 E0
00 16 F3 15 E0
00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00

This looks like a repeating pattern and observed that rows ending on E0, have different values based on throttle position, so should be some how related to engine RPM. if I translate 16 F3, the last values above, it comes to 1469 rpm, which looks reasonable.

So my guess is that the softwares on the CD do not show data as the PID's are not matching. According to Standard OBD spec, PID for rpm is OC, and the command to read is 01 0C and the response should be 41 OC followed by 2 bytes for RPM value.

I will investigate further. I am pretty sure I dont want to waste my $200 investment :-)

gigy · 9th March 2009, 18:55

all maruti have only the connector which is obd ll.

sdh · 9th March 2009, 21:22

Some more inputs:
when I send, 0100 to read capabilities of PID 01xx, the response is 7f 01 11
This basically translates to 'capabilities service 1: none'
I will check 0200, 0300 etc to find what is possible.

monty9991 · 10th March 2009, 17:42

this is really a good work.. but i really dint get what those numbers are.. lol
anyways all the best for your research and do let us know if it works or any help you need.

5th March 2009, 23:01	#76
nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 392 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	sdh. but will it work with Swift Diesel ? eager to know the result. as i want to buy OBD tool which supports in CF. Let us know the result ASAP. Thanx.
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5th March 2009, 23:02	#77
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	how much did you get this fm receiver for? i have just ordered it. had i known you were going for it, i would have waited for your review about its reception and compatibility with CF.
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5th March 2009, 23:38	#78
monty9991 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 706 Thanked: 42 Times View My Garage	i dont think ki OBDII scanner works with Swift DDsi with ELM scanner
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6th March 2009, 08:40	#80
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	Update: GPS: Installed and working perfectly ELM Scan: Connector found, located below stearing close to centre console Scan tool connects and rx/tx leds blink nicely No data displayed in Elm provided as well as CF. ADS FM Radioi: Oult of the 3 drivers it is supposed to install, one of them is not getting installed on the car PC. So 33.33% success today morning.
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6th March 2009, 19:21	#81
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	Update from evening: No luck with Radio and OBD. Radio refuses to find stations, only hissing. OBD connects, rx/tx links blink on both ends, still no data in software. Tried various baud rates without luck. Swift had K line on pin 7 as expected by OBD II, so not sure what the issue is. Any guidance?
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7th March 2009, 10:37	#84
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	Tried various softwares on CD. AT DP command returns AUTO, ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init) this indicates 14230 protocol is selected where as I read somewhere that it is ISO 9141. Tried selecting this protocol and got bus error. The tried Scanmaster ELM tool. Asked him to auto detect com port and protocol. Detects right comport, 384000 baud, connects to tool,protocol detection says unknown protocol and then it disconnects. Tried forcing to ISO 9141, and got bus error. I have searched around and found no hints so far. Will keep trying some more things in the mean time and home some one will give the clue to resolve the issue.
	() Thanks

7th March 2009, 22:07	#85
monty9991 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 706 Thanked: 42 Times View My Garage	OBDII doesnt works with most of the marutis. tested on ALTO n swift DDsi by me tested with no results. and on baleno tested by someone on teambhp.
	() Thanks

8th March 2009, 06:52	#86
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	I put serial port sniffer and saw that data is exchanged between PC and OBD. I read somewhere that suzuki does not follow standard PIDs. May be that is culprit for no data.
	() Thanks

8th March 2009, 11:34	#87
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	As per ELM documentation, I did some tests and here is the results: Command: AT DP Response: AUTO, ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init) I read some where that this is protocol used by suzuki in new cars, so must be ok. Command: 0100 Expected response: 41 00 followed by id's of supported PID's, each indicated by a byte Response from my car: 7F 01 11 Command: AT MA (monitor all data) Response: 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 3E 00 00 00 12 72 15 E0 00 12 D9 15 E0 00 12 D9 15 E0 08 40 00 <DATA ERROR 00 00 00 00 13 5F 15 E0 00 13 5F 15 E0 00 13 5F 15 E0 00 13 CF 15 E0 00 13 CF 15 E0 00 14 5B 15 E0 00 14 5B 15 E0 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 00 3E 00 00 00 14 CB 15 E0 00 14 CB 15 E0 00 15 53 15 E0 08 40 00 <DATA ERROR 00 00 00 00 15 53 15 E0 00 15 53 15 E0 00 15 D1 15 E0 00 15 D1 15 E0 00 16 66 15 E0 00 16 66 15 E0 00 16 F3 15 E0 00 00 00 7F 00 00 00 00 This looks like a repeating pattern and observed that rows ending on E0, have different values based on throttle position, so should be some how related to engine RPM. if I translate 16 F3, the last values above, it comes to 1469 rpm, which looks reasonable. So my guess is that the softwares on the CD do not show data as the PID's are not matching. According to Standard OBD spec, PID for rpm is OC, and the command to read is 01 0C and the response should be 41 OC followed by 2 bytes for RPM value. I will investigate further. I am pretty sure I dont want to waste my $200 investment :-)
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9th March 2009, 18:55	#88
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	all maruti have only the connector which is obd ll.
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9th March 2009, 21:22	#89
sdh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	Some more inputs: when I send, 0100 to read capabilities of PID 01xx, the response is 7f 01 11 This basically translates to 'capabilities service 1: none' I will check 0200, 0300 etc to find what is possible.
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10th March 2009, 17:42	#90
monty9991 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ludhiana Posts: 706 Thanked: 42 Times View My Garage	this is really a good work.. but i really dint get what those numbers are.. lol anyways all the best for your research and do let us know if it works or any help you need.
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