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Old 4th May 2009, 17:29   #31
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Yes, But with multiple woofer it will have add multiple distortions of the 8 inch sub when used in the low freq range.
As long as a subwoofer is used within the limits of it's suspension (as long as the suspension's excursion is linear) there is little cause for distortion

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Any 8 inch driver cannot go low like a 12 inch sub. As there is no substitute for displacement.
Yes but there are exceptions
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Opt for either 10" or 12" from a reputed company and you'll be just fine!
Agreed. Consider woofer that looks like this
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AYes but there are exceptions
23W/4557T00 | Tymphany



Agreed. Consider woofer that looks like this
830876 | Tymphany
Yes but the sensitivity has gone for the toss here(82 db for the 8 inches and 92 for the 10 inches)...Liked the 10 inches but FS is quite high for my taste...a little lower would be good..In terms of 25-30 hz.

Also the graph of the 8 inches is a quite linear in the sub bass freq but in the 10 inch sub there is a sharp roll off after the 35 hz....

So again a nice 10 inches with a little lower Fs would be my choice.

Some this like this one...

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Well agreed that an dual 8" cannot go as low as a single 10 or 12". But I am on a look out for a tight bass.
Had a chat on crutchfield.com with the advisors there. And it seems they suggest to go in for a dual 8" in a sealed enclosure for that tight, kicking bass and they said for the kinda music I listen to that is retro dual 8" would be the best. Unless i want something that would sound deep, low, tight than would need to go in for dual 10" setup.
Now, I have alpine which give 125W x 2 under 2 ohms or 250 under bridgemood.
Also, I have Clarion 785 to be installed which comes with a L and R sub setting. In this case wouldn't it be good enough to go in for a dual 8"?

How much of a difference will it be between dual 8" and single 10" where the low bass is concerned percentage wise ?

Can a sub sound good in Fiber glass enclosure compared to a MDF enclosure? Incase I find someone who can make one for me.

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A sub in FG sounds good only if its made properly and completely sealed.It can be made easily

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Can a sub sound good in Fiber glass enclosure compared to a MDF enclosure? Incase I find someone who can make one for me.

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Thanks, Abhinav and Ramie, Sirji will get in touch with you soon.

What is lowest frequency the dual ID8V3 can handle?

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why don't you put up your question on id forum eric will give all the answer you want to know about id subs.

as all said i will also say go with either 10" or 12".
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Yes but the sensitivity has gone for the toss here..Also the graph of the 8 inches is a quite linear in the sub bass freq but in the 10 inch sub there is a sharp roll off after the 35 hz....
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Well agreed that an dual 8" cannot go as low as a single 10 or 12". But I am on a look out for a tight bass. Now, I have alpine which give 125W x 2 under 2 ohms or 250 under bridgemood.How much of a difference will it be between dual 8" and single 10" where the low bass is concerned percentage wise ?
in short...

10" can give as tight bass as 8" (you loose F3 compared to other 10")

8" can go as low as 10" (you loose sensitivity compared to other 8")

It is best to compare 2 specific subs instead of just generalizing 8" or 10" or 12".
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in short...

10" can give as tight bass as 8" (you loose F3 compared to other 10")

8" can go as low as 10" (you loose sensitivity compared to other 8")

It is best to compare 2 specific subs instead of just generalizing 8" or 10" or 12".
Very true...Also the amount of KICK bass would be much better in a case of a 10 or 12 inch sub than the dual 8 inch subs. If you try to achieve the same amount there will be a lots of distortion and you will be stressing the 8 inch very much.

So it is better to choose from 10-12 inch which will be quite good. Tonally and accuracy will be maintained.
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I think this discussion of 10 inch single versus 8inch dual will go on forever. so please let us settle it here. @invisible dude take your pick.
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Here is a chart that I found on the ID forum. Which says dual ID8" does as good as a IDQ10V3 and another one says that IDQ10V3 is louder than IDQ10V2.
Well, this really doesn't help but just adds upto more confusion.
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Which one: Dual 8" sub V/s Single 10" sub?-2id8.jpg  

Which one: Dual 8" sub V/s Single 10" sub?-idq10vs.jpg  

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Bro these are simulations not actual responses...so Do not consider them as benchmarks to consider the subs....
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Thanks LBM Sirji.

On a second thought How would a pair of IDQ10V2 do compared to single IDQ10V3? In terms of good deep, tight bass.

IDQ10V2 requies minimum of .30 cu.ft of internal volume from the enclosure compared to IDQ10V3 which needs minimum .55 cu.ft internal volume.
If we go to see one can have a pair of IDQ10V2 subs with internal volume of .30 x 2 = .60 cu.ft net.
So I one can fit a dual IDQ10v2 against the single IDQ10v3

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How would a pair of IDQ10V2 do compared to single IDQ10V3? In terms of good deep, tight bass.
you can't compare it anymore as id has stopped the production of idqv2 version, and the idqv3 is the newer version, and is now available.

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you can't compare it anymore as id has stopped the production of idqv2 version, and the idqv3 is the newer version, and is now available.
Well I did check and they are still available in stock. That's the reason have put that option up.
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