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NiTviN · 2nd July 2010, 18:37

TBhp Audio Guru's I need some advice. I tried searching this thread but did not find any answers.

I have a Blaupunkt Montecarlo MP34 system which came with my Safari. I want to change that system and move it to my other car. When I detached the system I saw the multipin connector was factory fitted with all wires in place. Now if I want to move the set, I have to cut the wires so that I can take out the connector as well. The Blaupunkt service center guy suggested to buy a similar connector from Blaupunkt which costs Rs. 450/- and use it itstead. Is this a good idea? Is it a normal procedure? Only befefit is, I am not cutting the OE wires and instead using a connector. But I may need to buy 2 connectors. one for the old car and one for my safari for which I will install a new ICE. Does that mean Rs. 900/-?? Wow thats expensive just for connectors.

Pls advice...

navin · 3rd July 2010, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiTviN

The Blaupunkt service center guy suggested to buy a similar connector from Blaupunkt which costs Rs. 450/- and use it itstead. ..

Ther service center has advised you correctly.

SumitBahl · 8th July 2010, 11:46

Hi

I am looking to install sub in my Punto.
I currently have 1 set of components (Infinity) in front doors and 6X9 speakers (Infinity Reference 9633i) in the rear parcel tray (MDF).

The speakers are powered by Blaupunkt MK2 amp and KENWOOD eXcelon X994.

I am looking to add a subwoofer.

In my current setup both speakers are powered by MK2.

I am planning on removing the 6X9's and add coaxials or another set of components in the rear door (Later, not right now).

Which is the best sub available with budget upto 10k.

If I remove the 6X9's and only run front components and sub, would it be sufficient?

Also need advice on components.

Which ones are better?
HERTZ Energy HSK 165
FOCAL ACCESS 165 A1
ILLUSION ELECTRA 6.1
RAINBOW

If i buy another set of components, I was thinking of moving my Infinity components to the rear doors and install new one in the front.

The components should not be too bright, should be natural sounding with good bass.

Woofer should have good lows and mids!!

SumitBahl · 8th July 2010, 12:10

Here are a few more points:

Regarding the compos. I like disco like sound. :P

The woofer and front compos would be powered by MK2. So, please keep the ratings in mind.

Rear coax or components are not on agenda right now, just seeking some opinion.

I have 2 options to choose from right now:

1. Remove 6x9's, move infinity compos to rear door and add new compos on front doors, add a sub later.
2. Remove 6x9's, keep infinity at front, add sub and power both with mk2.

Which box should I go for? Ported or sealed?

Pr_007 · 8th July 2010, 12:29

If you want a natural sounding with good bass go for the components from DLS they are very good. You can even try the Illusion series.

As for the sub please let us know if you want a SQ set up or a SPL setup.

What is the RMS output for the blaupunkt, I am sorry I do not know that.

Please give some details on the AMP.

Regarding the enclosure please go for a sealed one. Gives out a very tight bass.

Since you want to go for a woofer. IMO remove the 6x9 and go for a smaller set of speakers like the JBL GTO638 or something like that.

Since you are planning to power the sub with the same amplifier you will not be able to go for a bigger output woofer.

If planning for a MONO amplifier then there are lot of options.

The above details are IMO. Please ask the Guru' s further.

sam_sant2005 · 8th July 2010, 17:53

Iam confused between two headunits and two component speakers. Please help.

************************************************** *****
HU (inside 12k):
Pioneer 5250SD (SD Card, 4V RCA Out)
or
JVC KD-R716 (5V RCA Out, Bluetooth etc)
or
Any Alpine available?
************************************************** *****
Components (inside 7k range):
Hertz
or
Infinity
************************************************** *****
Note:
- I have with me a used 12" JBL Bass tube, JBL Rear oval speakers (300w pmpo) and a 2 channel amp from my old car.
- I plan to get another 2/4 channel amp (to drive the comp speakers atleast) along with the sub-woofer.
- i want more clarity of sound at medium volumes than anything else. I mean the sound of guitars should be crystal clear while playing some rock English numbers.

Please suggest what units should I go for. Or atleast suggest the best combination from the above.

Budget for getting the 'remaining' things in my Car Audio would be 25k and my new Car is Swift.

SumitBahl · 8th July 2010, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pr_007

If you want a natural sounding with good bass go for the components from DLS they are very good. You can even try the Illusion series.

As for the sub please let us know if you want a SQ set up or a SPL setup.

What is the RMS output for the blaupunkt, I am sorry I do not know that.

Please give some details on the AMP.

Regarding the enclosure please go for a sealed one. Gives out a very tight bass.

Since you want to go for a woofer. IMO remove the 6x9 and go for a smaller set of speakers like the JBL GTO638 or something like that.

Since you are planning to power the sub with the same amplifier you will not be able to go for a bigger output woofer.

If planning for a MONO amplifier then there are lot of options.

The above details are IMO. Please ask the Guru' s further.

I am looking for SQ set up.

I can install a higher rating sub right now. I have plan for mono amp in future.

Here are the amp details:
Blaupunkt GTA 4 Mk2 power amplfiier key features

Bridgeable 4/3/2 channel power amplifier.

Max power 800W, single channel mode into 4 ohms.

* Four channel mode max power: 4 x 120W into 4 ohms
* Four channel mode max power: 4 x 180W into 2 ohms
* Two channel mode max power: 2 x 400W into 4 ohms
* Four channel mode RMS power: 4 x 60W into 4 ohms
* Two channel mode RMS power: 2 x 180W into 4 ohms
* Four channel mode RMS power: 4 x 90W into 2 ohms
* Frequency response 10Hz - 30kHz (-3dB)
* Signal to noise ratio > 90dBA
* THD (at full rated power) <0.05%
* 2 ohm stability in all channel modes
* Input signal 0.1 - 8.0V (will not accept speaker level inputs)
* Low pass filter: 50 - 250Hz variable (12dB / octave)
* High pass filter: 80Hz switchable
* Bass boost 0 / 6 / 12dB switchable at 45Hz
* Nickel plated RCA input, RCA preamp output & speaker output terminals
* Power on and protection LED (green/red)
* Dimensions 190W x 57H x 390L (mm)
* Complete with spare fuse, fixing screws, operating and installing guide

Pr_007 · 8th July 2010, 20:32

@Sumit, IMO you can get the Infinity kappa 60.9 CS, 6.5" components, very good, and they are 2 ohms, you can connect them to your front 2 channels of your Amp at 2 ohms load and get them powered. The rear speakers can be powered the HU.

You can bridge the rear two channels of the amp to get around 180 RMS for the subwoofer. There are a plenty of subs. But you can also think of a option. In the team-bhp's classified section there is a sale for a ID 8" sub, very very good sub.

Try it, only if you like to. The above all are my opinions please consult with some senior bhp-iian's and Guru's.

All the best.

SumitBahl · 8th July 2010, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pr_007

@Sumit, IMO you can get the Infinity kappa 60.9 CS, 6.5" components, very good, and they are 2 ohms, you can connect them to your front 2 channels of your Amp at 2 ohms load and get them powered. The rear speakers can be powered the HU.

You can bridge the rear two channels of the amp to get around 180 RMS for the subwoofer. There are a plenty of subs. But you can also think of a option. In the team-bhp's classified section there is a sale for a ID 8" sub, very very good sub.

Try it, only if you like to. The above all are my opinions please consult with some senior bhp-iian's and Guru's.

All the best.

I have heard kappa, they are little too bright for my taste.

I am thinking about iD 12" sub.

abhibh · 8th July 2010, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumitBahl

I have heard kappa, they are little too bright for my taste.

I am thinking about iD 12" sub.

Bull 6.5" + iD CTX. Audition anytime you say

Pr_007 · 9th July 2010, 07:46

How much does ID CTX 6.5" components cost and where in India do you get that components. I want one for my car.

Could someone please help me in getting them.

shamanth · 9th July 2010, 10:05

I want to upgrade my ANHC system by just adding Subs, Since i am finding stock front speaker is of good quality. I want to know which is the better option, what exactly is the difference ?

Sub with Mono block amplifier (costly)
Sub with 2 channel amplifier (cheaper)

navin · 9th July 2010, 11:08

Shamanth, The better the amp the better control it will have over the sub.

shamanth · 9th July 2010, 11:11

do you feel mono amp is better since its specifically made for Subs?

navin · 9th July 2010, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by shamanth

do you feel mono amp is better since its specifically made for Subs?

it depends on the 2 amps you are comparing. A sony 555 vs the JBL 301.1?yes the JBL is better; but the JBL 301.1 vs say a Audison VRx? the VRx amp (even bridged will dump more current).

2nd July 2010, 18:37	#10246
NiTviN BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 83 Thanked: 6 Times	Advice required on Blaupunkt MonteCarlo MP34 TBhp Audio Guru's I need some advice. I tried searching this thread but did not find any answers. I have a Blaupunkt Montecarlo MP34 system which came with my Safari. I want to change that system and move it to my other car. When I detached the system I saw the multipin connector was factory fitted with all wires in place. Now if I want to move the set, I have to cut the wires so that I can take out the connector as well. The Blaupunkt service center guy suggested to buy a similar connector from Blaupunkt which costs Rs. 450/- and use it itstead. Is this a good idea? Is it a normal procedure? Only befefit is, I am not cutting the OE wires and instead using a connector. But I may need to buy 2 connectors. one for the old car and one for my safari for which I will install a new ICE. Does that mean Rs. 900/-?? Wow thats expensive just for connectors. Pls advice...
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8th July 2010, 11:46	#10248
SumitBahl BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 976 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	Hi I am looking to install sub in my Punto. I currently have 1 set of components (Infinity) in front doors and 6X9 speakers (Infinity Reference 9633i) in the rear parcel tray (MDF). The speakers are powered by Blaupunkt MK2 amp and KENWOOD eXcelon X994. I am looking to add a subwoofer. In my current setup both speakers are powered by MK2. I am planning on removing the 6X9's and add coaxials or another set of components in the rear door (Later, not right now). Which is the best sub available with budget upto 10k. If I remove the 6X9's and only run front components and sub, would it be sufficient? Also need advice on components. Which ones are better? HERTZ Energy HSK 165 FOCAL ACCESS 165 A1 ILLUSION ELECTRA 6.1 RAINBOW If i buy another set of components, I was thinking of moving my Infinity components to the rear doors and install new one in the front. The components should not be too bright, should be natural sounding with good bass. Woofer should have good lows and mids!!
	() Thanks

8th July 2010, 12:10	#10249
SumitBahl BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 976 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	Here are a few more points: Regarding the compos. I like disco like sound. :P The woofer and front compos would be powered by MK2. So, please keep the ratings in mind. Rear coax or components are not on agenda right now, just seeking some opinion. I have 2 options to choose from right now: 1. Remove 6x9's, move infinity compos to rear door and add new compos on front doors, add a sub later. 2. Remove 6x9's, keep infinity at front, add sub and power both with mk2. Which box should I go for? Ported or sealed?
	() Thanks

8th July 2010, 12:29	#10250
Pr_007 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 235 Thanked: 19 Times	If you want a natural sounding with good bass go for the components from DLS they are very good. You can even try the Illusion series. As for the sub please let us know if you want a SQ set up or a SPL setup. What is the RMS output for the blaupunkt, I am sorry I do not know that. Please give some details on the AMP. Regarding the enclosure please go for a sealed one. Gives out a very tight bass. Since you want to go for a woofer. IMO remove the 6x9 and go for a smaller set of speakers like the JBL GTO638 or something like that. Since you are planning to power the sub with the same amplifier you will not be able to go for a bigger output woofer. If planning for a MONO amplifier then there are lot of options. The above details are IMO. Please ask the Guru' s further.
	() Thanks

8th July 2010, 17:53	#10251
sam_sant2005 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 537 Thanked: 287 Times	Iam confused between two headunits and two component speakers. Please help. ************************************************ * HU (inside 12k): Pioneer 5250SD (SD Card, 4V RCA Out) or JVC KD-R716 (5V RCA Out, Bluetooth etc) or Any Alpine available? ********************************************** * Components (inside 7k range): Hertz or Infinity ********************************************** * Note: - I have with me a used 12" JBL Bass tube, JBL Rear oval speakers (300w pmpo) and a 2 channel amp from my old car. - I plan to get another 2/4 channel amp** (to drive the comp speakers atleast) along with the sub-woofer. - i want more clarity of sound at medium volumes than anything else. I mean the sound of guitars should be crystal clear while playing some rock English numbers. Please suggest what units should I go for. Or atleast suggest the best combination from the above. Budget for getting the 'remaining' things in my Car Audio would be 25k and my new Car is Swift.
	() Thanks

8th July 2010, 20:32	#10253
Pr_007 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 235 Thanked: 19 Times	@Sumit, IMO you can get the Infinity kappa 60.9 CS, 6.5" components, very good, and they are 2 ohms, you can connect them to your front 2 channels of your Amp at 2 ohms load and get them powered. The rear speakers can be powered the HU. You can bridge the rear two channels of the amp to get around 180 RMS for the subwoofer. There are a plenty of subs. But you can also think of a option. In the team-bhp's classified section there is a sale for a ID 8" sub, very very good sub. Try it, only if you like to. The above all are my opinions please consult with some senior bhp-iian's and Guru's. All the best.
	() Thanks

9th July 2010, 07:46	#10256
Pr_007 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 235 Thanked: 19 Times	How much does ID CTX 6.5" components cost and where in India do you get that components. I want one for my car. Could someone please help me in getting them.
	() Thanks

9th July 2010, 10:05	#10257
shamanth BANNED Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,036 Thanked: 658 Times View My Garage	I want to upgrade my ANHC system by just adding Subs, Since i am finding stock front speaker is of good quality. I want to know which is the better option, what exactly is the difference ? Sub with Mono block amplifier (costly) Sub with 2 channel amplifier (cheaper)
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9th July 2010, 11:08	#10258
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 9,999 Times	Shamanth, The better the amp the better control it will have over the sub.
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9th July 2010, 11:11	#10259
shamanth BANNED Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,036 Thanked: 658 Times View My Garage	do you feel mono amp is better since its specifically made for Subs?
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