ICE for Fiesta 1.6S- Help Needed

Gilead · 8th November 2009, 15:48

Hi Gurus, I am picking up a Fiesta 1.6 S next week. The stock ICE is decent but I have this itch to upgrade. My budget is 20-25K. I am planning to get component speakers, 4 channel amp and a sub. I plan to run them via the stock HU as I am expecting to get a 2 DIN HU from the US in the near future. No rear fills.

I went to an installer in my neighborhood and he has given me 2 options in my budget range.

Option 1

Components: JBL GTO 608C- 4900/-
Sub Woofer: JBL CS 1215: 3500/-
4 ch amp: JBL GT5 S644- 6200/-
Amp wiring kit: 2400/- (not sure which brand. Thought he said JBL. Does JBL make wiring kits?)
Sealed sub box: 1500/-
RC: 350/-
Spacer: 200/-
Labor: 850/-
Total: 19,900/-

Option 2

Replace JBL components and sub with Polk. Retain JBL amp and the rest.

Components: Polk SR 6501- 8500/-
Sub: Polk: 5200/-
Total: 25,200/-

I am looking for a price check for the above mentioned items and also some recommendations. I heard both the components and I thought Polk sounded a little richer. Could not audition the subs. I am looking for some laid back mid and highs and a tight bass. I will not be blasing music at any point in time. I mostly listen to rock/metal acts like Led Zep, Deep Purple and Maiden. Sometimes when I am in a weird mood I listen to pop and techno.

Please help me decide between these two options or please suggest alternatives within this budget. I am looking for a VFM set up. Dont have much left after plonking down nearly 8 lacs on the car. I dont want to blindly go in for the Polk set up just because it is more expensive. Pros and cons would help. Thanks.

jkdas · 8th November 2009, 17:19

Wont the JBLs or regular 6.5incher need additional spacers or so as Ford Fiesta speakers at front are 5x7.

Also, I would suggest a fast sub in sealed box if you like Metal/Pop etc.Get a good four channel or just a mono amp for sub. The location of front speaker helps good imaging when you compare it with other cars.

vinayak007 · 8th November 2009, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilead

I will not be blasing music at any point in time. I mostly listen to rock/metal acts like Led Zep, Deep Purple and Maiden. Sometimes when I am in a weird mood I listen to pop and techno.

My two cents...why dont you consider having a 6*9 coax in the rear and doing away with the sub...??

wouldn't that be a practical thing to do to save some boot space..??

Regards,
Vinayak

TheBeastFieast · 8th November 2009, 18:13

Copied from Shajufx's thread,

AMP --> Blaupunkt THA 475 PnP = 10k
SUb --> Rockford Fosgate P1S412 = 5.5k
Comps -->Hertz ESK 570 Compos = 6.5k

Blaupunkt PnP fiesta wiring kit = 700
Subwoofer Box = 1200
Wires & Labour = 1000

So it totals to 24900/-.

Good thing is Hertz Comps are of 5X7 so no need of spacer.

I guess for time being we can use the stock rear speakers.

Gilead · 8th November 2009, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Wont the JBLs or regular 6.5incher need additional spacers or so as Ford Fiesta speakers at front are 5x7.

Also, I would suggest a fast sub in sealed box if you like Metal/Pop etc.Get a good four channel or just a mono amp for sub. The location of front speaker helps good imaging when you compare it with other cars.

Yes, 6.5 inch comps would require spacers. I have included the cost of the spacers above. Any recommendation for a fast sub?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinayak007

My two cents...why dont you consider having a 6*9 coax in the rear and doing away with the sub...??

wouldn't that be a practical thing to do to save some boot space..??

Regards,
Vinayak

No one will be sitting in the back seat, so no point putting in ovals there. I would rather have a sub in the boot to get some good bass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBeastFieast

Copied from Shajufx's thread,

AMP --> Blaupunkt THA 475 PnP = 10k
SUb --> Rockford Fosgate P1S412 = 5.5k
Comps -->Hertz ESK 570 Compos = 6.5k

The shop I went to today did not have Hertz 5X7 or any other 5X7 comps. Apparently this size is hard to get. JBL and Polk comps sounded really good. Stock rears are some chinese junk. Not worth retaining them.

thelord · 8th November 2009, 20:49

If you liked the sound of the Polk components, go for it!
For the sub, I'd recommend Blaupunkt over JBL. Its a great SQ sub. The 12 incher GTw1200 costs 2.7k with B&W. Install it in a sealed box 1-1.2 cu ft and you'll surely like the sound!

Gilead · 9th November 2009, 17:30

Hello, can anyone let me know if the prices of the items mentioned above are reasonable?

mohitd · 9th November 2009, 21:18

The prices you have mentioned are quite reasonable. Try 2-3 other places and compare the prices yourself.

DO NOT go for the CS sub, if you can find a new GTO 1214 sub that would be the best otherwise opt for a Polk 1240 - 5.8K (Goes really low but not as loud as the GTO 1214)
Ground Zero 4100 (4ch) - 11K
Stick to the JBL 608C. They are good compos but do not strain them too much.
Yes JBL does make wiring kits.
The JBL compos are a bit brighter but you will be quite happy with them.

jkdas · 9th November 2009, 21:37

ID makes some fast subs

Get a mono and get an ID or IDQ.

Gilead · 9th November 2009, 22:59

jk, i'll visit a couple of shops tomorrow and see if they have ID subs. I have a feeling it's gonna be expensive.

karankapoor · 9th November 2009, 23:29

Yes, ID subs are expensive the entry level starts at 10k or so for a 12" but then they give you quality so

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ruchirtnt · 14th December 2009, 13:26

Also Check for a Kenwood ICE, it is a touch screen with all the features like SATNAV, rear camera view and rest all, costing around 32k

Gilead · 14th December 2009, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

Also Check for a Kenwood ICE, it is a touch screen with all the features like SATNAV, rear camera view and rest all, costing around 32k

ruchirtnt, I have decided to hold on to my stock ICE for a while now. When I do decide to upgrade, it will be a big one. Are you planning to upgrade right away?

sathee46 · 14th December 2009, 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruchirtnt

Also Check for a Kenwood ICE, it is a touch screen with all the features like SATNAV, rear camera view and rest all, costing around 32k

Could you mention what model number is this?

ruchirtnt · 15th December 2009, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilead

ruchirtnt, I have decided to hold on to my stock ICE for a while now. When I do decide to upgrade, it will be a big one. Are you planning to upgrade right away?

Nope, not right now but will do in a couple of months after driving for a while, similarly thinking for installing Spoiler also after a while

Quote:

Originally Posted by sathee46

Could you mention what model number is this?

I recommend to go for Kenwood DDX5032 otherwise if you can plan higher DDX7032 and DDX8032BT is also great

8th November 2009, 15:48	#1
Gilead Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,142 Thanked: 60 Times	ICE for Fiesta 1.6S- Help Needed Hi Gurus, I am picking up a Fiesta 1.6 S next week. The stock ICE is decent but I have this itch to upgrade. My budget is 20-25K. I am planning to get component speakers, 4 channel amp and a sub. I plan to run them via the stock HU as I am expecting to get a 2 DIN HU from the US in the near future. No rear fills. I went to an installer in my neighborhood and he has given me 2 options in my budget range. Option 1 Components: JBL GTO 608C- 4900/- Sub Woofer: JBL CS 1215: 3500/- 4 ch amp: JBL GT5 S644- 6200/- Amp wiring kit: 2400/- (not sure which brand. Thought he said JBL. Does JBL make wiring kits?) Sealed sub box: 1500/- RC: 350/- Spacer: 200/- Labor: 850/- Total: 19,900/- Option 2 Replace JBL components and sub with Polk. Retain JBL amp and the rest. Components: Polk SR 6501- 8500/- Sub: Polk: 5200/- Total: 25,200/- I am looking for a price check for the above mentioned items and also some recommendations. I heard both the components and I thought Polk sounded a little richer. Could not audition the subs. I am looking for some laid back mid and highs and a tight bass. I will not be blasing music at any point in time. I mostly listen to rock/metal acts like Led Zep, Deep Purple and Maiden. Sometimes when I am in a weird mood I listen to pop and techno. Please help me decide between these two options or please suggest alternatives within this budget. I am looking for a VFM set up. Dont have much left after plonking down nearly 8 lacs on the car. I dont want to blindly go in for the Polk set up just because it is more expensive. Pros and cons would help. Thanks.
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8th November 2009, 17:19	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Wont the JBLs or regular 6.5incher need additional spacers or so as Ford Fiesta speakers at front are 5x7. Also, I would suggest a fast sub in sealed box if you like Metal/Pop etc.Get a good four channel or just a mono amp for sub. The location of front speaker helps good imaging when you compare it with other cars. Last edited by jkdas : 8th November 2009 at 17:23. Reason: typo
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8th November 2009, 18:13	#4
TheBeastFieast BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Faridabad Posts: 306 Thanked: 19 Times	The Great Shajufx's ICE Copied from Shajufx's thread, AMP --> Blaupunkt THA 475 PnP = 10k SUb --> Rockford Fosgate P1S412 = 5.5k Comps -->Hertz ESK 570 Compos = 6.5k Blaupunkt PnP fiesta wiring kit = 700 Subwoofer Box = 1200 Wires & Labour = 1000 So it totals to 24900/-. Good thing is Hertz Comps are of 5X7 so no need of spacer. I guess for time being we can use the stock rear speakers.
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8th November 2009, 20:49	#6
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	If you liked the sound of the Polk components, go for it! For the sub, I'd recommend Blaupunkt over JBL. Its a great SQ sub. The 12 incher GTw1200 costs 2.7k with B&W. Install it in a sealed box 1-1.2 cu ft and you'll surely like the sound!
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9th November 2009, 17:30	#7
Gilead Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,142 Thanked: 60 Times	Hello, can anyone let me know if the prices of the items mentioned above are reasonable?
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9th November 2009, 21:18	#8
mohitd BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calcutta Posts: 140 Thanked: 2 Times	The prices you have mentioned are quite reasonable. Try 2-3 other places and compare the prices yourself. DO NOT go for the CS sub, if you can find a new GTO 1214 sub that would be the best otherwise opt for a Polk 1240 - 5.8K (Goes really low but not as loud as the GTO 1214) Ground Zero 4100 (4ch) - 11K Stick to the JBL 608C. They are good compos but do not strain them too much. Yes JBL does make wiring kits. The JBL compos are a bit brighter but you will be quite happy with them. Last edited by mohitd : 9th November 2009 at 21:21.
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9th November 2009, 21:37	#9
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	ID makes some fast subs Get a mono and get an ID or IDQ.
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9th November 2009, 22:59	#10
Gilead Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,142 Thanked: 60 Times	jk, i'll visit a couple of shops tomorrow and see if they have ID subs. I have a feeling it's gonna be expensive.
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9th November 2009, 23:29	#11
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	Yes, ID subs are expensive the entry level starts at 10k or so for a 12" but then they give you quality so .
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14th December 2009, 13:26	#12
ruchirtnt Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,065 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Also Check for a Kenwood ICE, it is a touch screen with all the features like SATNAV, rear camera view and rest all, costing around 32k
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