The Palio now "Sounds Good"

moralfibre · 26th November 2009, 11:46

The quest for upgrades never ends. I was thoroughly enjoying the ICE setup in my car while I always felt that I could have a setup sounding better than the current one. I tried hard not to give in easily just so to achieve what I always planned for. The pangs were strong and the desire to upgrade kicking in every passing moment. I decided to start collecting equipment slowly and steadily and then go for a full overhaul of my existing setup as done here.

This time around I wanted something aesthetically more appealing without risking the effective quality of the output which for most takes a backseat somewhere in the bargain. I spoke to our good friend B&T and he had already outlined what he could do with the setup in a matter of just an hour. I was a little skeptical initially of how the idea would be once implemented but my fears were overcome by the sheer professionalism B&T had shown in the past with respect to major installs he had done. I could figure that he was very busy with doing high end installs but his attitude is very commendable considering the fact that he took time out to do my setup without haste. The setup took a week and was done with utmost attention to detail.

The final setup decided was:

Illusion Audio ND 8 - 8" mid Front
DLS R6.3 (2.5" mid-range and tweeter) - Front

This made up for a 3-way upfront.

Illusion AUdio ND6.1 - Rear doors
Illusion Audio EL12 - 12" Sub

JBL GTO 75.4 - powering the sub
Alpine MRV-F340 - 4-ch amplifier powering the fronts and the rears.

Alpine 9830 - HU

Sommer cable with Neutrik terminations - RCA's
Showa 16 AWG speaker cable all around.

The cost breakup is as follows:

The Palio now "Sounds Good"-cost_breakup.jpg

Overall very satisfied with the setup and the workmanship done by "Sounds good". I'll let the pictures do the talking:

Cyrus43 · 26th November 2009, 11:55

That is some superb work on the A Pillar.

moralfibre · 26th November 2009, 11:57

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Originally Posted by Cyrus43

That is some superb work on the A Pillar.

It indeed is Cyrus. It looks stock. Do not miss out on the superbly crafted tweeter pods. Now the stock tweeter pods are in a similar location but firing away from the listener. These were custom made.

iceman7 · 26th November 2009, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Cyrus43

That is some superb work on the A Pillar.

+1 to that.

But doesn't the A-Pillar thingie block the airflow from the dashboard blower?

I am looking to ICE my Palio too. Will be taking some inspiration from here.

Can tweeters be fitted in the slot below the OVRM adjuster stick?

Cyrus43 · 26th November 2009, 12:00

I did see them. Its EXCELLENT workmanship. Absolutely superb.

moralfibre · 26th November 2009, 12:04

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Originally Posted by iceman7

But doesn't the A-Pillar thingie block the airflow from the dashboard blower?

No it doesn't. In fact they are ultra sleek and firing right. They do not obstruct visibility, airflow, etc.

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Can tweeters be fitted in the slot below the OVRM adjuster stick?

Look carefully. They are fitted there.

SPARKled · 26th November 2009, 12:10

Congrats on your upgrade. Love the workmanship here. A big

to Ajay and his team. So hows improvement in sound compared to the earlier 2 way set up?

Technocrat · 26th November 2009, 12:11

Whoa another brilliant install. I had heard about this install & was actually waiting for some detailed pics.

I absolutely love the way Ajay installs the 8 inch mid bass making them look stock, heck even the 6.5 inch on my alto looks pretty stock

Was the fabrication of pods done by taking the A -pillar plastic cover out? The spics suggest that it done inside the car only.

Any particular reason for having comps at rear or you just moved your earlier setup to back?

Lastly When can I listen to it

moralfibre · 26th November 2009, 12:17

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Originally Posted by SPARKled

Love the workmanship here. I am not sure I understand your set up. I see the mid range and the tweeter set up on the A pillar. So whats above the mid bass driver on the door. Looks like another tweeter. Also a comment on the improved sound over the older set up would be appreciated.

The dome mid-range is on the A-pillar.
The tweeter is under the ORVM adjustment stick.
There is nothing about the midbass driver on the door.

Improved sound? By a couple of hundred miles better. I need better amplification though but taking cost v/s sound factor into consideration, this setup sounds superb.

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

I absolutely love the way Ajay installs the 8 inch mid bass making them look stock, heck even the 6.5 inch on my alto looks pretty stock

Second and third you on that.

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Was the fabrication of pods done by taking the A -pillar plastic cover out? The spics suggest that it done inside the car only.

Yeah, the spics suggest that but I don't see any mess around that area making me believe that it was taken out and done. The pics could be taken when they did a test fit. Ask Ajay.

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Any particular reason for having comps at rear or you just moved your earlier setup to back?

Well I had a pair of Carbon's lying around so thought I might as well use it instead of leaving them on the shelf. Hello! I had Electra's earlier. What you see in the rear doors are ND6.1's.

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Lastly When can I listen to it

When I get the car battery charged. I screwed up by leaving the cabin light "ON" one night after a hard day at work at Vikram's place.

planet_rocker · 26th November 2009, 12:34

beautiful install. how did you wire the rear speakers - the power window power cable inlet?

how is the car running?

moralfibre · 26th November 2009, 12:37

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Originally Posted by planet_rocker

beautiful install. how did you wire the rear speakers - the power window power cable inlet?

Thanks Planet. It sounds as beautiful too.

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how is the car running?

Very well, except for the fact that it is a bit J these days.

navin · 26th November 2009, 12:38

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Illusion Audio ND 8 - 8" mid Front
DLS R6.3 (2.5" mid-range and tweeter) - Front
This made up for a 3-way upfront.
Illusion AUdio ND6.1 - Rear doors
Illusion Audio EL12 - 12" Sub
JBL GTO 75.4 - powering the sub
Alpine MRV-F340 - 4-ch amplifier powering the fronts and the rears.

I would use the 75.4 to drive the ND 8 as well as the EL12 and the 340 to drive the DLS in the front and the ND6.1 in the rear. I suspect B&T wired it up this way becuase he'd need to crossover the ND8 to the DLS drivers anyway. This way he could ahve used the LPF on the 75.4 and the HPF on the 340.

Technocrat · 26th November 2009, 12:48

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

Well I had a pair of Carbon's lying around so thought I might as well use it instead of leaving them on the shelf. Hello! I had Electra's earlier. What you see in the rear doors are ND6.1's.

Sigh!! some guys are waiting & saving for upgrading to Carbon's & some have them lying around in their house

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When I get the car battery charged. I screwed up by leaving the cabin light "ON" one night after a hard day at work at Vikram's place.

Ouch Such a nice ICE & no battery to listen it

I think you need an HU upgrade too, right?

SPARKled · 26th November 2009, 13:18

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

The dome mid-range is on the A-pillar.
The tweeter is under the ORVM adjustment stick.
There is nothing about the midbass driver on the door.

Improved sound? By a couple of hundred miles better. I need better amplification though but taking cost v/s sound factor into consideration, this setup sounds superb.

I got it and edited my message but probably you replied to my earlier message where I got confused between your old and new set up as the pictures did not have any captions

kumar_ranjan · 26th November 2009, 13:24

Finally the details are here after a long wait. Love the way it is installed and would love to audition it.

26th November 2009, 11:46	#1
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,973 Times	The Palio now "Sounds Good" The quest for upgrades never ends. I was thoroughly enjoying the ICE setup in my car while I always felt that I could have a setup sounding better than the current one. I tried hard not to give in easily just so to achieve what I always planned for. The pangs were strong and the desire to upgrade kicking in every passing moment. I decided to start collecting equipment slowly and steadily and then go for a full overhaul of my existing setup as done here. This time around I wanted something aesthetically more appealing without risking the effective quality of the output which for most takes a backseat somewhere in the bargain. I spoke to our good friend B&T and he had already outlined what he could do with the setup in a matter of just an hour. I was a little skeptical initially of how the idea would be once implemented but my fears were overcome by the sheer professionalism B&T had shown in the past with respect to major installs he had done. I could figure that he was very busy with doing high end installs but his attitude is very commendable considering the fact that he took time out to do my setup without haste. The setup took a week and was done with utmost attention to detail. The final setup decided was: Illusion Audio ND 8 - 8" mid Front DLS R6.3 (2.5" mid-range and tweeter) - Front This made up for a 3-way upfront. Illusion AUdio ND6.1 - Rear doors Illusion Audio EL12 - 12" Sub JBL GTO 75.4 - powering the sub Alpine MRV-F340 - 4-ch amplifier powering the fronts and the rears. Alpine 9830 - HU Sommer cable with Neutrik terminations - RCA's Showa 16 AWG speaker cable all around. The cost breakup is as follows: Overall very satisfied with the setup and the workmanship done by "Sounds good". I'll let the pictures do the talking: Attached Thumbnails
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26th November 2009, 11:55	#2
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	That is some superb work on the A Pillar.
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26th November 2009, 12:00	#5
Cyrus43 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 5,019 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	I did see them. Its EXCELLENT workmanship. Absolutely superb.
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26th November 2009, 12:10	#7
SPARKled Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 1,110 Thanked: 656 Times	Congrats on your upgrade. Love the workmanship here. A big to Ajay and his team. So hows improvement in sound compared to the earlier 2 way set up? Last edited by SPARKled : 26th November 2009 at 12:14.
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26th November 2009, 12:11	#8
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Whoa another brilliant install. I had heard about this install & was actually waiting for some detailed pics. I absolutely love the way Ajay installs the 8 inch mid bass making them look stock, heck even the 6.5 inch on my alto looks pretty stock Was the fabrication of pods done by taking the A -pillar plastic cover out? The spics suggest that it done inside the car only. Any particular reason for having comps at rear or you just moved your earlier setup to back? Lastly When can I listen to it
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26th November 2009, 12:34	#10
planet_rocker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bong-land Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 426 Times	beautiful install. how did you wire the rear speakers - the power window power cable inlet? how is the car running?
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26th November 2009, 13:24	#15
kumar_ranjan BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MH12 Posts: 246 Thanked: 19 Times	Finally the details are here after a long wait. Love the way it is installed and would love to audition it. Last edited by kumar_ranjan : 26th November 2009 at 13:26.
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