ICE'd A STAR

jkdas · 9th May 2010, 23:40

Well, its got a sweet engine and handles well at high speeds. It is priced fine for what its worth for. Its comes with power steering ( which is pretty light even at high speeds; read bad), power windows, cd/mp3 player with aux in and lot which had nice thump. err, just thump !

I am talking about Suzuki A-Star, a car I got to drive for 400plus kilometers in a day! Why? I was to take it and its owner, Sankar to Cochin to ICE it.

We were on a S T R I C T budget! Strict as in, dude ! stay there, %^there not an inch forward!

What should it cost in total ? 30k Max

What did we have? A HU and a 4 Channel amp.

What did these cost? 130 + 130 dollars ; almost.

What we wanted ? VFM compos at front and coax at rear door; no cutting!

What we want in future? A 8/10 inch sub; powered by a mono!

What all we got ?

Clarion HU
Clarion 4 Channel Amplifier
Auditor Components
Auditor Co-axial
Stinger RCAs
Cadence power cable & fuse
Noise Kill
Executed @ Galaxy Cochin

End result? Great ICE for a budget, no bull !
I got pix, lots as usual. Will update by tomorrow.

Sankar · 10th May 2010, 08:17

Yes it does sound good, better than i thought it would, especially after i read about someone's Auditor experience here.

Many thanks to Jk for taking the car & me there, driving all the way to Cochin & back, i didn't want to drive this time, i was getting back on to the highway after a long long gap. So just wanted to sit and watch.

Pics would follow, i hope the DVD works this time

slicvic · 10th May 2010, 08:36

Congratulations on the ICE install Sankar, i've been wanting to upgrade my ICE too, i have a VXi and so am retaining the HU.
I have used a parcel shelf for the rear Co Axials

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...-star-lxi.html

Do put up pics Sankar/ JKDas especially of the front components. Even i am not keen on mounting them to the front door without any cutting. You have quoted the price in dollars. Are these available in India?

Looking forward to the pics

Sankar · 10th May 2010, 09:41

slicvic, stock HU is okay and I'm sure with decent speakers it would sound good. Stock setup sounds muddy and vocals are not very clear. Mine is a VXi too, I decided to go for an Clarion HU since I have upgrade plans in the future.

Cutting is not required to install 6.5" speakers in the doors! But they did cut the door pad to mount the tweeter, cutting is not required if its mounted elsewhere though.

Clarion is not very well supported in India. But it must be available and the prices I'm not sure of.

slicvic · 10th May 2010, 10:34

I was wondering if the Auditor range is available in India, and their pricing. If they fit in the stock speaker locations (in the door) even i'll go in for them since they've been tried and tested in your car

What 6.5's are on your car clarion or auditor?

I had saved up to buy an amplifier and components, but splurged it on a Roadking. Have to wait for a bit now

jkdas · 10th May 2010, 11:19

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Originally Posted by slicvic

I was wondering if the Auditor range is available in India, and their pricing. If they fit in the stock speaker locations (in the door) even i'll go in for them since they've been tried and tested in your car

What 6.5's are on your car clarion or auditor?

I had saved up to buy an amplifier and components, but splurged it on a Roadking. Have to wait for a bit now

He got Audiotor's for front and rear.
Cost 6k and 3.5k for compos and c0-ax respectively.

jkdas · 10th May 2010, 12:09

The Auditor co-ax Rip 165-C

The MDF ring

The MDF ring after it was fixed to the door.

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The Clarion 4 channel amp. XR 2410; 60W X 4 at 4ohm

The power cable used; Cadence 8G; guess at 200Rs /meter.

The Auditor Rip 165 Components after they were fit

Damping :Noise kill

The stock speakers of A-Star : Nippon

The man! Muneem on his Fiat Yamaha R15 with slick front tyres !!

Sankar · 10th May 2010, 12:35

Jk, how does it compare in your opinion to other installs with similar budget? Compare sound wise, i mean!

Asking you since i haven't heard many.

slicvic · 10th May 2010, 13:20

JK, any pics of the tweeter placement?

Sankar did you have any problems with the stock HU? asking you because the volume control knob on my car kept falling off.

Sankar · 10th May 2010, 14:01

Yes tweeter pics are there, he will post it or wait till i get home.
No i didn't have any problems as such with the volume control knob.
One of the biggest downers of the stock HU is that it doesn't play USB flash drives. It matters when music collection spans a few GBytes. It can however play/control iPod but that will need a separate module which is sold extra.

jkdas · 10th May 2010, 16:35

More pix.

The cable used for powering the speakers.

Auditor tweeters

RCA: Stinger

DLS kit which we didnt use :(

Stock HU of A-Star

8G power cable

DLS RCA

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The void when you take the stock HU out.

Damped by Noise Kill

Another pix of the Auditor

Coz the rear bench of A-Star has a metal sheet, screwing an amp to it was easy. I had to push in a MDF for my Santro for the same !

MRP of Auditor

The fuse ; Cadence.

Attachment 346027

Roots relay for headlights.

Jaggu · 10th May 2010, 19:23

Nice nice can we see some more pics and post install pics please

thelord · 10th May 2010, 23:27

Stupendous install guys! Lovely workmanship there.
For a second, I thought it was my Alto's door in the damping pics.

The choice of equipment is great as well.

@Sankar
Congrats for the ICE setup!
Allow the speakers to run-in for 20-30 hours at moderate volume and they'll sound even better.

Looking forward to the Sub upgrade!

anku94 · 11th May 2010, 07:03

Congrats. Looks cool.

I'm almost a noob, but what was the purpose of the relay ? Isn't it used to prevent current from flowing in the opposite direction ?

EDIT : Alright, it's not used to prevent current from flowing in the reverse direction. So what's it's purpose ? Whatever Wikipedia had went over my head....

Sankar · 11th May 2010, 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Nice nice can we see some more pics and post install pics please

Thanks Jaggu. Few more pics attached

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Originally Posted by thelord

Stupendous install guys! Lovely workmanship there.
For a second, I thought it was my Alto's door in the damping pics.

The choice of equipment is great as well.

@Sankar
Congrats for the ICE setup!
Allow the speakers to run-in for 20-30 hours at moderate volume and they'll sound even better.

Looking forward to the Sub upgrade!

Thanks thelord!
Sub should be in there in a month or two.

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Originally Posted by anku94

Congrats. Looks cool.

I'm almost a noob, but what was the purpose of the relay ? Isn't it used to prevent current from flowing in the opposite direction ?

EDIT : Alright, it's not used to prevent current from flowing in the reverse direction. So what's it's purpose ? Whatever Wikipedia had went over my head....

Thanks anku94.
Relay is for the headlamps. Relay is a switch basically, relay uses low current circuit to switch ON/OFF a high current circuit to power up the headlamps (or any other device) directly from the battery.

9th May 2010, 23:40	#1
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	ICE'd A STAR Well, its got a sweet engine and handles well at high speeds. It is priced fine for what its worth for. Its comes with power steering ( which is pretty light even at high speeds; read bad), power windows, cd/mp3 player with aux in and lot which had nice thump. err, just thump ! I am talking about Suzuki A-Star, a car I got to drive for 400plus kilometers in a day! Why? I was to take it and its owner, Sankar to Cochin to ICE it. We were on a S T R I C T budget! Strict as in, dude ! stay there, %^there not an inch forward! What should it cost in total ? 30k Max What did we have? A HU and a 4 Channel amp. What did these cost? 130 + 130 dollars ; almost. What we wanted ? VFM compos at front and coax at rear door; no cutting! What we want in future? A 8/10 inch sub; powered by a mono! What all we got ? Clarion HU Clarion 4 Channel Amplifier Auditor Components Auditor Co-axial Stinger RCAs Cadence power cable & fuse Noise Kill Executed @ Galaxy Cochin End result? Great ICE for a budget, no bull ! I got pix, lots as usual. Will update by tomorrow.
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10th May 2010, 08:17	#2
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Yes it does sound good, better than i thought it would, especially after i read about someone's Auditor experience here. Many thanks to Jk for taking the car & me there, driving all the way to Cochin & back, i didn't want to drive this time, i was getting back on to the highway after a long long gap. So just wanted to sit and watch. Pics would follow, i hope the DVD works this time
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10th May 2010, 08:36	#3
slicvic BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: KA 19 Posts: 856 Thanked: 526 Times	Congratulations on the ICE install Sankar, i've been wanting to upgrade my ICE too, i have a VXi and so am retaining the HU. I have used a parcel shelf for the rear Co Axials http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...-star-lxi.html Do put up pics Sankar/ JKDas especially of the front components. Even i am not keen on mounting them to the front door without any cutting. You have quoted the price in dollars. Are these available in India? Looking forward to the pics
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10th May 2010, 09:41	#4
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	slicvic, stock HU is okay and I'm sure with decent speakers it would sound good. Stock setup sounds muddy and vocals are not very clear. Mine is a VXi too, I decided to go for an Clarion HU since I have upgrade plans in the future. Cutting is not required to install 6.5" speakers in the doors! But they did cut the door pad to mount the tweeter, cutting is not required if its mounted elsewhere though. Clarion is not very well supported in India. But it must be available and the prices I'm not sure of.
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10th May 2010, 10:34	#5
slicvic BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: KA 19 Posts: 856 Thanked: 526 Times	I was wondering if the Auditor range is available in India, and their pricing. If they fit in the stock speaker locations (in the door) even i'll go in for them since they've been tried and tested in your car What 6.5's are on your car clarion or auditor? I had saved up to buy an amplifier and components, but splurged it on a Roadking. Have to wait for a bit now
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10th May 2010, 12:09	#7
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Auditor Components Rip-165 and Audiotor Co-ax Rip 165-C for A-Star The Auditor co-ax Rip 165-C The MDF ring The MDF ring after it was fixed to the door. The Clarion 4 channel amp. XR 2410; 60W X 4 at 4ohm The power cable used; Cadence 8G; guess at 200Rs /meter. The Auditor Rip 165 Components after they were fit Damping :Noise kill The stock speakers of A-Star : Nippon The man! Muneem on his Fiat Yamaha R15 with slick front tyres !! Attached Thumbnails
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10th May 2010, 12:35	#8
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Jk, how does it compare in your opinion to other installs with similar budget? Compare sound wise, i mean! Asking you since i haven't heard many. Last edited by Sankar : 10th May 2010 at 12:36.
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10th May 2010, 13:20	#9
slicvic BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: KA 19 Posts: 856 Thanked: 526 Times	JK, any pics of the tweeter placement? Sankar did you have any problems with the stock HU? asking you because the volume control knob on my car kept falling off.
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10th May 2010, 14:01	#10
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	Yes tweeter pics are there, he will post it or wait till i get home. No i didn't have any problems as such with the volume control knob. One of the biggest downers of the stock HU is that it doesn't play USB flash drives. It matters when music collection spans a few GBytes. It can however play/control iPod but that will need a separate module which is sold extra.
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10th May 2010, 16:35	#11
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Auditor Rip 165S More pix. The cable used for powering the speakers. Auditor tweeters RCA: Stinger DLS kit which we didnt use :( Stock HU of A-Star 8G power cable DLS RCA The void when you take the stock HU out. Damped by Noise Kill Another pix of the Auditor Coz the rear bench of A-Star has a metal sheet, screwing an amp to it was easy. I had to push in a MDF for my Santro for the same ! MRP of Auditor The fuse ; Cadence. Attachment 346027 Roots relay for headlights. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by jkdas : 10th May 2010 at 16:48.
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10th May 2010, 19:23	#12
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Nice nice can we see some more pics and post install pics please
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10th May 2010, 23:27	#13
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	Stupendous install guys! Lovely workmanship there. For a second, I thought it was my Alto's door in the damping pics. The choice of equipment is great as well. @Sankar Congrats for the ICE setup! Allow the speakers to run-in for 20-30 hours at moderate volume and they'll sound even better. Looking forward to the Sub upgrade!
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11th May 2010, 07:03	#14
anku94 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 249 Thanked: 351 Times	Congrats. Looks cool. I'm almost a noob, but what was the purpose of the relay ? Isn't it used to prevent current from flowing in the opposite direction ? EDIT : Alright, it's not used to prevent current from flowing in the reverse direction. So what's it's purpose ? Whatever Wikipedia had went over my head.... Last edited by anku94 : 11th May 2010 at 07:05.
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