Good Sub+Amp combo to add to my Esteem?

navin · 20th January 2006, 11:51

the 504 is ok for sub use. I find it too grainy for fullrange use.

Boom Shiva · 20th January 2006, 12:12

Navin, could you suggest a similarly priced alternative please, and a good place where I can pick it up?

Thanks

revtech · 20th January 2006, 15:59

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Originally Posted by navin

the 504 is ok for sub use. I find it too grainy for fullrange use.

could you please elaborate ?? what exactly do you mean by that ?

Rev

navin · 20th January 2006, 16:07

in that price range there is nothing close to the 504.

I used the 504 with some Vifa speakers. These Vifa (the crossover and the tweeter housing and back chamber was my own design) tends to gloss over grain (not a detailed speaker like say Focal). Even with these speakers the 504 was not really smooth with a more forward speaker like say JBL the 504's harshness might be more pronounced. I like a smooth laid back sound as over time (long listening sessions) grainyness or an extended treble can sound irritating if not downright harsh.

However you have to take all I say with a table spoon of salt and trust your own ears. Many claim that I am more sensitive than most to issues of smoothness and I tend to like my speakers more than a bit laid back. Some time back I had posted a thread about modifiying an Infinity 5" component system because I found it too forward. Now Infinity is supposed to laid back compared to brands like JBL (sister brand of Infinity) so you know my reference point.

Some this might stem from the fact that I use tubes and fullrange drivers for reference and my aged ears more than their share of miles on them.

Vivekphadnis · 20th January 2006, 16:12

I would suggest the Pio 6100F. I am using it with JBL speakers and do not find it harsh at all.

Shiva, what is your budget for the amp?

navin · 20th January 2006, 16:30

the 6100 is smoother but a bit more in price. Vivek what did you pay?

Vivekphadnis · 20th January 2006, 16:33

Rs. 7500 for the 6100F.

Boom Shiva · 20th January 2006, 23:09

I guess 5-6k for an amp. I don't really want anything mindlblowing...just a nice setup to enjoy my music with.

navin · 21st January 2006, 09:52

at 5K the 504 is just about the only recognised 4ch amp you can find.

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Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 19 Times	Navin, could you suggest a similarly priced alternative please, and a good place where I can pick it up? Thanks
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20th January 2006, 16:07	#19
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,417 Thanked: 9,982 Times	in that price range there is nothing close to the 504. I used the 504 with some Vifa speakers. These Vifa (the crossover and the tweeter housing and back chamber was my own design) tends to gloss over grain (not a detailed speaker like say Focal). Even with these speakers the 504 was not really smooth with a more forward speaker like say JBL the 504's harshness might be more pronounced. I like a smooth laid back sound as over time (long listening sessions) grainyness or an extended treble can sound irritating if not downright harsh. However you have to take all I say with a table spoon of salt and trust your own ears. Many claim that I am more sensitive than most to issues of smoothness and I tend to like my speakers more than a bit laid back. Some time back I had posted a thread about modifiying an Infinity 5" component system because I found it too forward. Now Infinity is supposed to laid back compared to brands like JBL (sister brand of Infinity) so you know my reference point. Some this might stem from the fact that I use tubes and fullrange drivers for reference and my aged ears more than their share of miles on them. Last edited by navin : 20th January 2006 at 16:10.
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20th January 2006, 16:12	#20
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	I would suggest the Pio 6100F. I am using it with JBL speakers and do not find it harsh at all. Shiva, what is your budget for the amp?
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20th January 2006, 16:30	#21
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,417 Thanked: 9,982 Times	the 6100 is smoother but a bit more in price. Vivek what did you pay?
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20th January 2006, 16:33	#22
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Rs. 7500 for the 6100F.
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20th January 2006, 23:09	#23
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 19 Times	I guess 5-6k for an amp. I don't really want anything mindlblowing...just a nice setup to enjoy my music with.
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21st January 2006, 09:52	#24
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,417 Thanked: 9,982 Times	at 5K the 504 is just about the only recognised 4ch amp you can find.
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