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Old 6th March 2024, 07:15   #1036
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Re: 2022 MG ZS EV Facelift Review

I hope they give a software update of Wireless Android auto for existing customers.
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Old 6th March 2024, 10:10   #1037
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Re: 2022 MG ZS EV Facelift Review

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Does that mean prices will fall even more as of 6th March, 2024?

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This now applies to the newly launched Excite Pro as well. They have added Panoramic Sunroof, Wireless AC/AU and removed the 7.2 KW AC charger keeping the same price at 19.98 for Excite. Still this makes an already VFM Excite variant even more VFM if Sunroof was a priority which is for many India.
I guess this is the most VFM variant to go for as Executive looks very weird without the hub caps and the roof rails.
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Old 6th March 2024, 14:56   #1038
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Does that mean prices will fall even more as of 6th March, 2024?
MG feels those who brought it at a higher margin last year can be neglected. The new variant is around 2-3L dearer and has additional features including ADAS2, wireless carplay etc...
Dear MG - any peanuts for the fools who paid exorbitant price last year to purchase your car? Atleast ADAS2 as an add on feature, at an affordable price for existing users?
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Old 6th March 2024, 15:18   #1039
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MG feels those who brought it at a higher margin last year can be neglected. The new variant is around 2-3L dearer and has additional features including ADAS2, wireless carplay etc.
I dont think the new variant (Excite Pro) comes with ADAS2
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Old 7th March 2024, 09:25   #1040
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MG feels those who brought it at a higher margin last year can be neglected. The new variant is around 2-3L dearer and has additional features including ADAS2, wireless carplay etc...
Dear MG - any peanuts for the fools who paid exorbitant price last year to purchase your car? Atleast ADAS2 as an add on feature, at an affordable price for existing users?
ADAS is not a simple software update unfortunately. It needs specialized chips, and a completely new software "build" because it intervenes directly into the logic for braking, acceleration etc. So it can't be retrofitted. My sympathies.
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Old 7th March 2024, 15:07   #1041
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ADAS is not a simple software update unfortunately. It needs specialized chips, and a completely new software "build" because it intervenes directly into the logic for braking, acceleration etc. So it can't be retrofitted. My sympathies.
Software upgrade - it can be done easily OTA. Specialised chips - pardon my ignorance , but what the service personal told me was the only additional sensor in the new variant is the radar at the front. Not sure whether he was right or not.
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Old 8th March 2024, 15:50   #1042
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Re: The Agony of Clarification: My friend's MG ZS EV is stuck in the service center for 4 months

Yes, the insurance was purchased along with the car from the dealer itself, I am following up with the process. Hoping for a satsisfying response from either the company or the insurer. Will proceed legally soon if there is no response. Appreciate everyone for reading the post and coming up with supportive answers to make the situation better.
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Old 9th March 2024, 11:45   #1043
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Software upgrade - it can be done easily OTA. Specialised chips - pardon my ignorance , but what the service personal told me was the only additional sensor in the new variant is the radar at the front. Not sure whether he was right or not.
Unfortunately, there are software upgrades and then there are software upgrades. And not every upgrade can be done OTA, even if OTA update is supported. And there are some upgrades that may not be possible at all?

Why? The reasons are complex and goes beyond a short post- if I get time I will do a more detailed write-up. Also, your SA is not fully informed. This is a completely new set of technologies coming up, and poor SAs are rarely kept well abreast by the car companies. It may be involve more than just putting a radar up front, I'm afraid.

Tesla is a different beast altogether, and should not be seen as representative of the entirety of the rest of the auto industry. They ship their cars with all the sensors, and with enough "headroom" in both computational power as well as in memory and storage to support upgrades for a long time. Not so for the rest of the auto industry. There the norm is "just enough for the immediate need". In Teslas, the lower end trims just have some sensors and "software/ IP blocks" disabled by choice. You pay more, these get activated. What if you never pay- don't they lose money by making the supposedly "stupid" choice with a range of inactive sensors and features? Well that's why there is only one "Elon". Tesla has figured out that having a simple, harmonious "hardware configuration" is much simpler and cheaper in the longer term. They manage the differentiation through software....As I said, there is only one Tesla in the entire automotive industry...And even there, you can't do an OTA upgrade to turn a RWD Tesla 3 to an AWD one, for example.

...and that's why both OTA upgrades and retrofitting critical functionality in existing cars may not be even feasible for most automotive makes and models.

PS- just as an aside, I am linking one chip hardware from just one vendor that is needed to enable automotive radar functionality over an above the radar / camera up front. It also involves integration, orchestration, testing etc but these are complex topics. Hope this gives some idea of the depth and scale involved in something seemingly "obvious" https://www.nxp.com/products/radio-f...BoCzKcQAvD_BwE

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Re: 2022 MG ZS EV Facelift Review

Anyone tried getting wireless carplay/android auto via software update for previous vehicles?
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Anyone tried getting wireless carplay/android auto via software update for previous vehicles?
I highly doubt if that is even feasible unless the underlying hardware originally supported it (and MG somehow crippled that feature for India in software- a bit unlikely, even thought it cannot be ruled out!).

Here is what I've been using for Wireless Android Auto on MG ZS EV and Toyota Hycross. Pretty happy with it so far except for reduced call volume during phone conversations while in MG ZS EV. I'm sure there is a mixer setting somewhere (which I havent had the time to figure out yet) to balance sound volumes from different sources. Interestingly no such issue on Toyota Hycross.

PS: The dongle for Apple CarPlay support is different. There are some combo devices and also some stand-alone Android OS devices too in the market.
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Re: 2022 MG ZS EV Facelift Review

Hi guys..
Is anybody using a voltage stabilizer for charging EVs?
To take care of the voltage fluctuation and resultant possible damage to the EP2CCU?
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Hi guys..
Is anybody using a voltage stabilizer for charging EVs?
To take care of the voltage fluctuation and resultant possible damage to the EP2CCU?
Its working range is from 85v to 265V. So if you do have to put a voltage stabilizer it should be a one that can cover the high voltage above 260V. In India when the neutral in the Transformer has poor contact due to carbon build up or loss terminals, high voltages of upto 340V can be expected in 1 phase while other phase can go as low 90v, while the sole remaining phase can be within 280v, basically a imbalance within the phases.

Where even a typical stabilizer will not be able to handle voltages above 320v, the stabilizer itself will go kaput.

Its best to get a custom wound servo stabilizer that can work at voltages higher then this for areas with continous voltage problems or get a high or low voltage cut off din rail mount mcb style unit which only switches off during abnormal voltage user defined for areas with very few such temporary problems.

Or if you have Off grid solar, you never ever have to worry about voltage fluctuations. While On grid solar is useless for voltage protection.
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Old 13th March 2024, 19:19   #1048
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MG feels those who brought it at a higher margin last year can be neglected. The new variant is around 2-3L dearer and has additional features including ADAS2, wireless carplay etc...
Dear MG - any peanuts for the fools who paid exorbitant price last year to purchase your car? Atleast ADAS2 as an add on feature, at an affordable price for existing users?

Same happened with Comet, MG's decision to slash Comet price of more than a Lac and also release a faster-charging variant just months after launch feels like a slap in the face to early adopters. We, the loyal customers who took a chance on a new model, are now left feeling like we overpaid for outdated technology. This short-sighted strategy not only hurts our wallets but also damages the trust we placed in MG.
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Old 13th March 2024, 21:50   #1049
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Its working range is from 85v to 265V. So if you do have to put a voltage stabilizer it should be a one that can cover the high voltage above 260V. In India when the neutral in the Transformer has poor contact due to carbon build up or loss terminals, high voltages of upto 340V can be expected in 1 phase while other phase can go as low 90v, while the sole remaining phase can be within 280v, basically a imbalance within the phases.

Where even a typical stabilizer will not be able to handle voltages above 320v, the stabilizer itself will go kaput.

Its best to get a custom wound servo stabilizer that can work at voltages higher then this for areas with continous voltage problems or get a high or low voltage cut off din rail mount mcb style unit which only switches off during abnormal voltage user defined for areas with very few such temporary problems.

Or if you have Off grid solar, you never ever have to worry about voltage fluctuations. While On grid solar is useless for voltage protection.
I had a locally assembled 5KW servo stabilizer and had used it to charge my EV using the 3KW charger. Irrespective of the heavy voltage variance I have at my place, it worked seamlessly. However the stabilizer was working hard to meet the voltage demand and was making lot of noises throughout charging time.
After couple of months, the stabilizer stopped working and I found that some internals got burnt while I was charging the EV. In short, my stabilizer has done its best and was useful while it was alive. However, locally assembled ones may not stand the heavy demand from the EV, in the long run. The person who assembled the servo has shifted from his place, and I am yet to find someone capable of repairing the dead one.

If anyone need, I can post the picture of the departed soul.
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Old 17th March 2024, 16:41   #1050
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If anyone need, I can post the picture of the departed soul.
Please do so, I am also interested in how you mounted it. I have an outdoor garage a "post" on which I will mount the excitel power box. However that will obviously not serve the need for the additional stabilizer etc, so I am in search for ideas.
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