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Originally Posted by phamilyman
(Post 2712785)
My experience has been awesome with the Crystal serrated blade stuff sold in most supermarkets - really long lasting. atleast an year +. and 45 bucks apiece makes it truly VFM. How do these german ones compare to crystal? |
Originally Posted by phamilyman
(Post 2712785)
Dadu and sushil, I would recommend a black n decker chopper for 2.5k available in croma. All these cheap 1.5k ones have one of two issues: a. Cheap gearbox (the exact word they use)that can wear out with the slightest abuse. Inalsa's Robot 300C is terrible on that count. Personal experience:Frustrati b. Impractically small. You cannot use more than half the bowl capacity - 400ml jar means <200ml usable volume. You just cannot fill it up like a regular mixie. If you do so, the gearbox wears out in 30 seconds. Personal experience again.:Frustrati Get a nice big one, or don't get one at all. |
Originally Posted by Pallavi
(Post 2712810)
Sushil, I have been using a Nova chopper for the past 3 years and it is one of the best things i purchased on a whim :) I can chop onions, cabbage, carrot etc without turning them to mush. Very useful when preparing lunch during the early morning rush. I would suggest you opt for a good brand of vegetable chopper than those shown in infomercials and avoid Star CJ like plague. |
Originally Posted by Pallavi
(Post 2712787)
I am facing a weird problem in the new house we moved into. Whenever we switch on the geyser (2000W) and dishwasher (2000W) together, the meter trips. Same goes for any combinations of AC, geyser, washing machine and dishwasher. The houser owner says that it is a 3-phase connection and it shouldnt happen. Please help me find out what is going wrong. Dont know much about electricity and meters so please explain in detail if you can. TIA, Pallavi |
Originally Posted by Pallavi
(Post 2712787)
I am facing a weird problem in the new house we moved into. Whenever we switch on the geyser (2000W) and dishwasher (2000W) together, the meter trips. Same goes for any combinations of AC, geyser, washing machine and dishwasher. The houser owner says that it is a 3-phase connection and it shouldnt happen. |
Originally Posted by Pallavi
(Post 2712787)
I am facing a weird problem in the new house we moved into. Whenever we switch on the geyser (2000W) and dishwasher (2000W) together, the meter trips. Same goes for any combinations of AC, geyser, washing machine and dishwasher. The houser owner says that it is a 3-phase connection and it shouldnt happen. Please help me find out what is going wrong. Dont know much about electricity and meters so please explain in detail if you can. TIA, Pallavi |
Originally Posted by Pallavi I am facing a weird problem in the new house we moved into. Whenever we switch on the geyser (2000W) and dishwasher (2000W) together, the meter trips. Same goes for any combinations of AC, geyser, washing machine and dishwasher. The houser owner says that it is a 3-phase connection and it shouldnt happen. Please help me find out what is going wrong. Dont know much about electricity and meters so please explain in detail if you can. TIA, Pallavi |
The question is what is current rating of the mob that tripped. I suppose it is about 15A. |
Originally Posted by dadu
(Post 2712967)
Usually you will have a 3phase 5 KVA meter and therefore it shoudl not trip. But tripping happens if the MCB has gone faulty or there is electric leakage usually from the Geyser heating element or can be from the WM heater too, depending on how old they are the scaling on them can cause the element to crack resulting in current leakage. |
Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR
(Post 2712976)
What trips is the MCB / fuse; not the meter. The MCB should be at least 10 A rating (220 Volt X 10 amp = 2200 W - if I remember my physics correctly). |
Originally Posted by phamilyman
(Post 2713139)
Pallavi, this is common in GGN atleast. Your house's MCB is rated to supply 5-6kw only. Check the flat's purchase agreements it would be mentioned somewhere. Forget the "full power backup" that everyone claims. |
Originally Posted by khoj
(Post 2713344)
Is this an apartment or is this a floor of an independent house. This is an aparment. I am assuming that switched on one at a time a lone appliance is not tripping otherwise it could be a problem with the Earthing/Grounding which is tripping up the ELCB usually located close to the meter thereby giving rise to your statement that the meter is tripping. You are right. When one appliance is switched on, the fuse doesnt trip. When i touch the lint collector in the washing machine, i get a slight shock. Doesnt this mean there is a problem with the grounding or the washing machine? Otherwise it seems all of the appliances are on a single circuit and I doubt if the supply is 3 phase. In which case you could actually look at the meter and notice 1. the size of the meter, a 3 phase meter is large, almost the size of a shoebox(men's) and the single phase is smallish about a third in size. 2. The connection rating will be mentioned on the face of the meter 9+ KwH for the 3 phase and 4.74 maximum for the single phase. 3. In either case the main MCB should be 50 Amps for the 3 phase and 32 amps for the single phase. of the appliances you mentioned should be fed via its own MCB of 16A rating so on and so forth. The above is of use if the wires themselves are of the correct gauge size so as to carry all of the current through, otherwise you could end up with burnt out wires which will not go down well for either you or your landlord. I suggest you get a licensed electrician to take a look at the circuit board and follow his lead. |
Originally Posted by deep_bang
(Post 2713368)
Well. The question is what is current rating of the mob that tripped. I suppose it is about 15A. Now a 4 kw load will go beyond 15amps. So that's why it tripped. Ideally the load should have been balanced across 2 mcb's and the main mcb should have been more than 15 amps. All this assuming that the rated available load is more than 4kva ( when you get the connection from the electricity company they give you for a specific maximum load ). What can you do: check with a good electrician and see if replacing the mcb to a higher rating should be done. Would be best if the electrician is the same guy who did the whole design in the first place - see if you get get his contact from the owner and check with the same person. |
Originally Posted by sgiitk
(Post 2713437)
@deep_bang; Must be that all the heavy loads are on the same phase. The wiring distribution will have to be modified. |
Originally Posted by Pallavi
(Post 2713884)
The geyser is relatively new, few months old. I get a slight shock when i touch the lint collector of the washing machine. Should i get the washing machine checked or the grounding.. not sure of the right term? |
Originally Posted by Pallavi You are right. When one appliance is switched on, the fuse doesnt trip. When i touch the lint collector in the washing machine, i get a slight shock. Doesnt this mean there is a problem with the grounding or the washing machine? |
Originally Posted by khoj
(Post 2714096)
This indicates an open circuit and when you touch the lint collector you are closing the circuit and getting a shock in return. however if you are getting the shock only upon touching the lint collector alone (& no where else on the WM body) then it could simply be a case of static being discharged. This however does not take away from the original problem. |
Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom
(Post 2712973)
My LG washing machine decided to go walkies last night, and, moving forward on its very secure and very level platform (carefully levelled stone on concrete) it fell flat on its face. The connection to the tap was broken. A very young and badly educated "engineer" visited us, established that the machine was still working, and promised us a new input pipe tomorrow. He blamed everything else but the machine, and, basically, talked a lot of male-cow excrement. In retrospect, I think the LG is too light, and its feet don't grip. I'm going to try putting it on something like a heavy-but-thin rubber sheet. We have to solve the problem, the company obviously is not going to. Pathetic service: i should have paid more and bought the Siemens :( |
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