LAN card to LAN card sharing

abhibh · 9th June 2007, 11:31

Hi,

A friend of mine needs to share 2 computers without hub he has 3 lan cards. 2 are in one PC and one is in another PC. He is sharing PC just for file sharing and not internet (as of now). I know it can achieved via getting a Switch/Hub but i think he is trying to be a LAN expert lol...

Help him lol

kooldude · 9th June 2007, 11:36

I suppose the lan cards are used to share the internet connection rather than sharing files correct me if i m wrong

Mugen_Power · 9th June 2007, 11:44

If you do not want to share the internet than there is no need for 3rd lan card.

All you need is cable and ip settings.

kpzen · 9th June 2007, 11:47

Get a lan wire with two ends like this n connect the lan cards of both the PC's.Set consecutive IPs for the PCs n start sharing.....

toiingg · 9th June 2007, 11:50

I might be wrong in here, im not an IT guy, but if we are going to connect 2 computers directly, we would be needing a 'Cross cable' and not a 'Straight' one. However if you are planning to connect the PC's with a hub then straight cables will be needed.

IT Guru's pls correct me if i'm wrong.

merve_extreme · 9th June 2007, 11:54

Yes 2 lan cards are sufficient.i think he must be using third one for Broadband router.

1)what you need is a cross lan cable(cat5e or cat6e if both machines have gigabit lan adapters)(Modern lan adapters can also work using Straight through cable).connect the 2 lan cards using this cable.
assuming win XP
2)goto network connections-lan properties-TCP/IP
3)set ip in 1st machine as manual to 192.168.0.1,subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway and DNS can be left blank.
4)in the same way set ip in 2nd machine as manual to 192.168.0.2,subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway and DNS can be left blank.
5)run the setup home network tool from the network connections in Control Pannel and your done.Remember that both machines should have the same workgroup say "HOME" to share files.
6)share a folder each on both machines to transfer the files.they can be viewd from my network places.
7)To share internet use ICS.Can be accessed in connection properties,advanced tab.

Mugen_Power · 9th June 2007, 12:00

2 Lan cards with cross cables like this one and ip settings posted by merve_extreme.

merve_extreme · 9th June 2007, 12:07

make your own cross cable:

kpzen · 9th June 2007, 12:29

Merve...
Pretty useful info shared....I didn't know the exact funda of making the LAN sharing wire
Thanks a lot...

safari_lover · 9th June 2007, 18:15

if u want to transfer files between systems in a simple way, there's a software called 'ipmsg'. But you need to connect the 2 systems using a cross cable and assign the ip addresses as explained by merve_extreme. If you use this software then there's no need of sharing. If you want the software then pm me.

Jaguar · 9th June 2007, 19:43

And one more thing, Make sure both the PCs are in the same workgroup.

abhibh · 10th June 2007, 01:11

Thnx all ya got his lan working. Crossover was required.

Mugen_Power · 10th June 2007, 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

Thnx all ya got his lan working. Crossover was required.

Thats Good..

All the information you needed was posted in only one hour after thread started.

low_bass_makker · 10th June 2007, 07:57

Guys latest LAN card does not require cross cable to communicate even a simple patch cable can work also.....but check with you hardware before proceeding.....

aah78 · 19th December 2008, 22:50

Guys,
The WLAN card on my HP Pavilion tx1420us (running Vista Home Premium) conked off. Seems it's a common problem on these laptops.

I need to buy a USB adapter but before that I'm looking for a quick solution.

I have a Dell Inspiron B130 running WinXP Home, which has WLAN and a LAN port.
The WLAN is connected to a D-Link DI-524 Router (192.168.0.1). I can use the internet, and access files from other computers (Shared Documents, printers - no servers used). The router provides Static DHCP addresses to all computer.

Using ICS and a crossover cable to connect the LAN port on the HP to the one on the Dell. Now I can access the internet from my HP. Windows Mail and IMs work alright too.
However, I can't access Shared Documents on other computers. Can't access any network printers either.

The Dell and the HP have the same WORKGROUP. Other computers in the network have a different WORKGROUP.

Configurations:
Dell
WLAN IP: 192.168.0.111
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server: 19.168.0.1

LAN IP: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway:

HP
IPv4: 192.168.0.35 (Preferred) - Changes as per connection, I think.
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.2
DCHP Server: 192.168.0.2

Yes, I'm aware that ICS requires 192.168.0.1, but I can't change the router IP to something else.

If I enable a firewall (even the basic Windows Firewall) on the Dell, then I lose
internet connection on the HP.

I want to use a firewall on the Dell, and be able to access the internet (and if possible Shared Documents on other computers) from the HP.

Any ideas? Thanks!

9th June 2007, 11:31	#1
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	LAN card to LAN card sharing Hi, A friend of mine needs to share 2 computers without hub he has 3 lan cards. 2 are in one PC and one is in another PC. He is sharing PC just for file sharing and not internet (as of now). I know it can achieved via getting a Switch/Hub but i think he is trying to be a LAN expert lol... Help him lol
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9th June 2007, 11:36	#2
kooldude BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte,North Carolina Posts: 283 Thanked: 0 Times	I suppose the lan cards are used to share the internet connection rather than sharing files correct me if i m wrong
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9th June 2007, 11:44	#3
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	If you do not want to share the internet than there is no need for 3rd lan card. All you need is cable and ip settings.
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9th June 2007, 11:47	#4
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Get a lan wire with two ends like this n connect the lan cards of both the PC's.Set consecutive IPs for the PCs n start sharing.....
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9th June 2007, 11:50	#5
toiingg BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 639 Thanked: 266 Times	I might be wrong in here, im not an IT guy, but if we are going to connect 2 computers directly, we would be needing a 'Cross cable' and not a 'Straight' one. However if you are planning to connect the PC's with a hub then straight cables will be needed. IT Guru's pls correct me if i'm wrong.
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9th June 2007, 11:54	#6
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Yes 2 lan cards are sufficient.i think he must be using third one for Broadband router. 1)what you need is a cross lan cable(cat5e or cat6e if both machines have gigabit lan adapters)(Modern lan adapters can also work using Straight through cable).connect the 2 lan cards using this cable. assuming win XP 2)goto network connections-lan properties-TCP/IP 3)set ip in 1st machine as manual to 192.168.0.1,subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway and DNS can be left blank. 4)in the same way set ip in 2nd machine as manual to 192.168.0.2,subnet 255.255.255.0, gateway and DNS can be left blank. 5)run the setup home network tool from the network connections in Control Pannel and your done.Remember that both machines should have the same workgroup say "HOME" to share files. 6)share a folder each on both machines to transfer the files.they can be viewd from my network places. 7)To share internet use ICS.Can be accessed in connection properties,advanced tab. Last edited by merve_extreme : 9th June 2007 at 12:03.
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9th June 2007, 12:00	#7
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	2 Lan cards with cross cables like this one and ip settings posted by merve_extreme.
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9th June 2007, 12:07	#8
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	make your own cross cable:
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9th June 2007, 12:29	#9
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Merve... Pretty useful info shared....I didn't know the exact funda of making the LAN sharing wire Thanks a lot...
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9th June 2007, 18:15	#10
safari_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bengaluru / Bagdal Posts: 1,135 Thanked: 685 Times	if u want to transfer files between systems in a simple way, there's a software called 'ipmsg'. But you need to connect the 2 systems using a cross cable and assign the ip addresses as explained by merve_extreme. If you use this software then there's no need of sharing. If you want the software then pm me.
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9th June 2007, 19:43	#11
Jaguar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,208 Thanked: 2,541 Times	And one more thing, Make sure both the PCs are in the same workgroup.
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10th June 2007, 01:11	#12
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Thnx all ya got his lan working. Crossover was required.
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10th June 2007, 07:57	#14
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Guys latest LAN card does not require cross cable to communicate even a simple patch cable can work also.....but check with you hardware before proceeding.....
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19th December 2008, 22:50	#15
aah78 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC / BOM Posts: 4,662 Thanked: 3,257 Times View My Garage	XP -> Vista Guys, The WLAN card on my HP Pavilion tx1420us (running Vista Home Premium) conked off. Seems it's a common problem on these laptops. I need to buy a USB adapter but before that I'm looking for a quick solution. I have a Dell Inspiron B130 running WinXP Home, which has WLAN and a LAN port. The WLAN is connected to a D-Link DI-524 Router (192.168.0.1). I can use the internet, and access files from other computers (Shared Documents, printers - no servers used). The router provides Static DHCP addresses to all computer. Using ICS and a crossover cable to connect the LAN port on the HP to the one on the Dell. Now I can access the internet from my HP. Windows Mail and IMs work alright too. However, I can't access Shared Documents on other computers. Can't access any network printers either. The Dell and the HP have the same WORKGROUP. Other computers in the network have a different WORKGROUP. Configurations: Dell WLAN IP: 192.168.0.111 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server: 19.168.0.1 LAN IP: 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: HP IPv4: 192.168.0.35 (Preferred) - Changes as per connection, I think. Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway: 192.168.0.2 DCHP Server: 192.168.0.2 Yes, I'm aware that ICS requires 192.168.0.1, but I can't change the router IP to something else. If I enable a firewall (even the basic Windows Firewall) on the Dell, then I lose internet connection on the HP. I want to use a firewall on the Dell, and be able to access the internet (and if possible Shared Documents on other computers) from the HP. Any ideas? Thanks!
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