Old HDD Data to new PC?! and more...

greenhorn · 14th May 2008, 06:46

what sort of games do you want to play ?

flash based stuff and old DOS games like mario - card not needed

Older games like NFS2, CS , quake , HL2 - optional

Latest games like Crysis , COD 4 - get an 8600 GT 256 MB DDR3 not the 512 MB version as it is DDR2 , so slower

aaggoswami · 14th May 2008, 08:56

@greenhorn:
Isnt my assumption correct?

8600 256MB will cost around 5K
Crysis is just about managable by 8600.

ECM · 14th May 2008, 09:09

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

Do you have your old PC still?
Simply connect them together into a LAN.
Both will remain FULLY operational and you can access one from the other, transfer data, use the optical drives et all....

This imo is the best practical solution,he will in any case will not able to load anything if he uses old HDD in his new p.c,in this case he has to run a set up again.

v12 · 14th May 2008, 14:12

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Gordon · 14th May 2008, 14:14

Problem is that I cannot start up my old PC. The motherboard has failed.

I'll also be going today to check the prices of external graphics card. In fact, I think you also get external RAM!!! I don't believe this, but will anyways check at the store.

Yeah, I need the card to play games. I half HL2 at the moment. With FULL graphics settings it works quite well, but there is a slight lag. Don't want that at all. Want to enjoy it to the max.

Will also be calling Lenovo HelpLine today to ask about the seal.

Thanks a ton to all you guys. I'll get back to you'll after inquiring

anupmathur · 14th May 2008, 14:41

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Originally Posted by Gordon

I'll also be going today to check the prices of external graphics card. In fact, I think you also get external RAM!!!

Uh huh, neither exists yet.
Reason? The USB 2.0 interface is just TOO slow.

sandeepmdas · 14th May 2008, 15:13

@Gordon,
The seal should remain intact.

There are things called external graphics cards, but these are not for playing games. The External Video Card allows you to connect an extra monitor to your desktop PC or laptop's USB port, thats all:
Iogear GUC2015V - CompUPlus Direct

Before you buy a Nvidia product be aware that the Lenovo IdeaCentre K200 Desktop PC comes with either an integrated SiS Mirage Graphics CHipset with 64-MB dedicated video memory - OR - an ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro Graphics Chipset with 128 MB dedicated video memory. The Nvidia card MAY/MIGHT not work properly with/on an ATI chipset, I am told.

That said, here are some card prices:
POV 8400GS 256MB DDR2 - 2050
POV 8500GT 256MB DDR2 - 3150
POV 8500GT 1GB DDR2 - 4500
POV 8600GT 256MB DDR3 - 5900
POV 8600GT 1GB DDR2 - 6050

...and IMHO, you should go for Asus.

Gordon · 16th May 2008, 16:22

I called the Lenovo Hardware Support. They sent a guy home to check the PC. He removed the seal off, and didn't replace it with another. I asked him why not, and he said "It isn't required. You can call me anytime you need any help."

Anyways, he said that I can remove the 512 MB RAM and insert two 1GB (1+1=2GB) RAM's in the slots. Said that the PC has a slot for graphics card. WOW! But for this he himself will have to come to install it.

I didn't get the time to go and check the prices. May probably do that today or tomm for sure.

@sandeepmdas
Thanks for the prices. Isn't there any 512 MB Graphics card?!
Whats POV?! Which company I mean.
Do you have any prices on Asus?!

NOTORIOUS · 16th May 2008, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Gordon

I need the graphics card for gaming. But are the ones you guys talking about externally attachable?! Through USB?!

I'll call up the Lenovo HelpLine tomm and check with them about the seal.

errrr....no gfx cards can be installed externally.

NOTORIOUS · 16th May 2008, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

@sandeepmdas
Thanks for the prices. Isn't there any 512 MB Graphics card?!
Whats POV?! Which company I mean.
Do you have any prices on Asus?!

see this TheITWares - Graphic Cards

buy the card based on ddr3.more memory will not help but a card with less memory but faster speed will help a lot.cheers:

sandeepmdas · 16th May 2008, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

@sandeepmdas
Thanks for the prices. Isn't there any 512 MB Graphics card?!
Whats POV?! Which company I mean.
Do you have any prices on Asus?!

You will get more price info from here:
TheITWares - Graphic Cards

I posted the prices of PoV (:: Point of View :: Gaming Hardware :: HOME) as someone was recommending that for you. I bought an Asus 8400GS for my HTPC 4-months back from Trivandrum for 2.2K (think so). Asus is generally considered better than XFX/PoV. The price of an Asus card was slightly higher than PoV at that time.

You can read that thread here, if you wish so:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/gadget...heater-pc.html
Please note that my purchase was only for watching HD movies, I am not a gamer..

As Notoriously recommended, I too suggest you to go for a DDR3 model; thats why I put that feature in bold in my previous pricelist.

NetfreakBombay · 16th May 2008, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS

errrr....no gfx cards can be installed externally.

Now a days its hard to think of things that can't be installed on USB...
IOGear USB 2.0 External Video Card - Review, Specs, Prices

Planning to pick up such a cars that has TC Out.

greenhorn · 16th May 2008, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Now a days its hard to think of things that can't be installed on USB...
IOGear USB 2.0 External Video Card - Review, Specs, Prices

Planning to pick up such a cars that has TC Out.

its good only for those who want a second display, and its useless for gaming

even then, those who want two displays have lots of choice. A lot of budget AMD motherboards come with dual video outs, and the 690G has a feature called surroundview which allows it to work with an ATi PCI-E card and give 4 outputs, and the 780G is even better and supports hybrid crossfire !

@ gordon the 512 MB version is actually slower than the 256 as it uses slower DDR2

NetfreakBombay · 16th May 2008, 17:35

Yaa gaming on this would be like a patience building exercise

greenhorn · 16th May 2008, 17:45

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Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Yaa gaming on this would be like a patient building exercise

yup, to quote a friend of mine , "a beautifully anti-aliased and anisotropically filtered slideshow"

( he was talking about running some new game with full eye candy on his onboard )

14th May 2008, 06:46	#16
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	what sort of games do you want to play ? flash based stuff and old DOS games like mario - card not needed Older games like NFS2, CS , quake , HL2 - optional Latest games like Crysis , COD 4 - get an 8600 GT 256 MB DDR3 not the 512 MB version as it is DDR2 , so slower
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aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	Correct. @greenhorn: Isnt my assumption correct? 8600 256MB will cost around 5K Crysis is just about managable by 8600.
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Gordon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,546 Thanked: 483 Times View My Garage	Problem is that I cannot start up my old PC. The motherboard has failed. I'll also be going today to check the prices of external graphics card. In fact, I think you also get external RAM!!! I don't believe this, but will anyways check at the store. Yeah, I need the card to play games. I half HL2 at the moment. With FULL graphics settings it works quite well, but there is a slight lag. Don't want that at all. Want to enjoy it to the max. Will also be calling Lenovo HelpLine today to ask about the seal. Thanks a ton to all you guys. I'll get back to you'll after inquiring
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sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Varkala Posts: 1,539 Thanked: 2,492 Times	@Gordon, The seal should remain intact. There are things called external graphics cards, but these are not for playing games. The External Video Card allows you to connect an extra monitor to your desktop PC or laptop's USB port, thats all: Iogear GUC2015V - CompUPlus Direct Before you buy a Nvidia product be aware that the Lenovo IdeaCentre K200 Desktop PC comes with either an integrated SiS Mirage Graphics CHipset with 64-MB dedicated video memory - OR - an ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro Graphics Chipset with 128 MB dedicated video memory. The Nvidia card MAY/MIGHT not work properly with/on an ATI chipset, I am told. That said, here are some card prices: POV 8400GS 256MB DDR2 - 2050 POV 8500GT 256MB DDR2 - 3150 POV 8500GT 1GB DDR2 - 4500 POV 8600GT 256MB DDR3 - 5900 POV 8600GT 1GB DDR2 - 6050 ...and IMHO, you should go for Asus. Last edited by sandeepmdas : 14th May 2008 at 15:24.
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Gordon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,546 Thanked: 483 Times View My Garage	I called the Lenovo Hardware Support. They sent a guy home to check the PC. He removed the seal off, and didn't replace it with another. I asked him why not, and he said "It isn't required. You can call me anytime you need any help." Anyways, he said that I can remove the 512 MB RAM and insert two 1GB (1+1=2GB) RAM's in the slots. Said that the PC has a slot for graphics card. WOW! But for this he himself will have to come to install it. I didn't get the time to go and check the prices. May probably do that today or tomm for sure. @sandeepmdas Thanks for the prices. Isn't there any 512 MB Graphics card?! Whats POV?! Which company I mean. Do you have any prices on Asus?!
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NetfreakBombay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,466 Thanked: 1,021 Times	Yaa gaming on this would be like a patience building exercise Last edited by NetfreakBombay : 16th May 2008 at 17:48.
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