Inverter Batteries

Tarun · 15th May 2008, 17:03

Guys,

Need to replace 2 inverter batteries for home.
Could you come up with your suggestions on the make, warranties, and price. A balanced quality product is preferred in terms of ,

Peace of Mind
Long lasting
Good service
Competitively priced

Thanks,
Tarun

wolfinstein · 15th May 2008, 19:52

The Best in the Market is Prestolite...! Worked for 3 years and can take a lot of loads..! costs around 7500 after exchange.

Inva-tublar, if you need long long life...!

Sukam or Amaron Sealed Batteries- No fumes No Gas...Only too expensive and low resale exchange.

black12rr · 24th July 2008, 15:54

Prestolite is maintenance one right ? , we need to add water and it does not emit gases ?

phamilyman · 24th July 2008, 17:08

wolfinstein is on money as always.

invaking has long life etyadi

both need water saab. prestolite is trusted by us since 1999. I can blindly put my money on the b rand.

anujmishra · 24th July 2008, 17:30

I am using Amco 180 Ah battery for 800VA Sukam inverter for last 1 year and 6 months. Till now there is no problem.

It costed me around Rs. 7800. Remember Ah rating is very much important when you are buying new battery. Dealers will try to convince you for 110, 120, 140 or 160 Ah. But 180 Ah is good deal and have long back up time.

Only thing is that you have to keep vigil on Water level in battery and topup when required for prolonged battery life. Never ever plates should be exposed outside of water.

black12rr · 24th July 2008, 17:44

@anuj , what are you running on the inverter and how long will the complete charge last .
How is the inverter itself ?

BTW 180 AH for 7800 only ? are you sure ? what is the warranty on the battery ? .Why I am asking is that presolite ,sukam or other batteries even for 100 AH will cost ~8000 rs .

gopalnayak · 24th July 2008, 21:49

Picked up Exide EL+ series (http://www.exide4u.com/exide/images/pdf/ups_el+.pdf) a few days back. 5 yrs All India replacement warranty! Gives real peace of mind. But expensive, had to pay 14k (with bill) for a 130AH battery. Note that the AH rating also has a discharge rate spec attached to it. This is a C10 130AH. This would be equivalent to 165AH C20 battery (150AH C20 battery is equivalent to 120AH C10 for most batteries). Most of the low cost batteries have their capacities mentioned at C20.
I hear that the Inva Tubular series is also good. Costs about 11k for 150AH C20 battery, 2.5 yrs warranty. Still went for EL+ for the warranty it offers. Wanted to make sure that I don't spend any money on batteries for a long time to come.

ST7677 · 25th July 2008, 11:44

Sounds good, the PDF says that normal battery life is 8-10 years... and refilling between 6-9 months...
Was this the MRP of the negotiated price?

What does C10 & C20 refer to and what's the benefit?

Lord Lucan · 25th July 2008, 11:51

gopalnayak: Please let me know the details of the inverter that you are using with this battery.

anujmishra · 25th July 2008, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by black12rr

@anuj , what are you running on the inverter and how long will the complete charge last .
How is the inverter itself ?

BTW 180 AH for 7800 only ? are you sure ? what is the warranty on the battery ? .Why I am asking is that presolite ,sukam or other batteries even for 100 AH will cost ~8000 rs .

My inverter runs 3 tubelights, 2 fans,1 CFL. Backup is all depend upon how much load you give to inverter. For me it lasts with above load 4 - 5 hours. But with 2 fans and one night lamp it lasts 8 hours nearly.

One best thing I found in Sukam inverter is its charging capacity. It quickly charges battery even in Low Charging mode. Although it has one HC mode (High charging mode) I never used that. Also it has Inverter mode and UPS mode. UPS mode is suitable for music system, PC etc. Last, it is sine wave so no strain on coiled applicances like fan. Also inverter size is very small compared to others.

Regarding battery price, I got some extra discount from Amco because I know one Amco employee. I am using above setup for around 1 year 9 months no problem at all. Only once is 6 month I check battery water level and top up with good distilled water. Even I got discount in inverter

as one of my friend was in marketing division of Sukam inverter. He arranged one inverter for me in dealer price.

Warranty on battery was 18 months.

gopalnayak · 25th July 2008, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST7677

Sounds good, the PDF says that normal battery life is 8-10 years... and refilling between 6-9 months...
Was this the MRP of the negotiated price?

What does C10 & C20 refer to and what's the benefit?

This is the negotiated price. MRP is about 17k+.
C10 is the available capacity of the battery when discharged over 10 hrs. C20 = 20Hrs. So, the more quickly you drain the battery, the lesser the capacity you get.

Blue_V · 28th July 2008, 09:14

tata bp solar has a product called eco genie, that comes with special batteries. "deep cycle" batteries. they are more suited for inverters. maybe you can check it out.

Gansan · 14th September 2009, 11:29

Guys, the battery of my inverter has conked out. The inverter is Usha Zentra, will run 4 Tubes + 4 Fans + 1 TV (full load ) for about 3.5 hours. It came with a Prestolite 15000 battery that went kaput when just 10 days remained of the 18 month warranty. Got a free replacement of Prestolite 12000 battery (since 15000 was out of stock) last september, and exactly one year later, this one too is on the blink!

I was checking and topping up water for both batteries myself, once in 30 - 40 days regularly.

Please suggest what brand I should go for. I want a long life battery with max warranty, and I don't mind the chore of checking water level once a month.

Raccoon · 14th September 2009, 15:46

Amaron!! Have been using Amaron Shield since last 4.5 - 5 years! Still going good. Base Terminal could also be worth considering... esp. if cheaper and if it has an attractive warranty period.

sgiitk · 14th September 2009, 16:21

Just remember that you may get low maintenance batteries but not Maintenance free batteries. This sort of operation from deep discharge to full charge will always require some maintenance

15th May 2008, 17:03	#1
Tarun BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Delhi Posts: 158 Thanked: 17 Times	Inverter Batteries Guys, Need to replace 2 inverter batteries for home. Could you come up with your suggestions on the make, warranties, and price. A balanced quality product is preferred in terms of , Peace of Mind Long lasting Good service Competitively priced Thanks, Tarun
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15th May 2008, 19:52	#2
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	The Best in the Market is Prestolite...! Worked for 3 years and can take a lot of loads..! costs around 7500 after exchange. Inva-tublar, if you need long long life...! Sukam or Amaron Sealed Batteries- No fumes No Gas...Only too expensive and low resale exchange.
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24th July 2008, 15:54	#3
black12rr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ridin earth now Posts: 1,280 Thanked: 349 Times	Prestolite is maintenance one right ? , we need to add water and it does not emit gases ?
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24th July 2008, 17:08	#4
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,675 Times	wolfinstein is on money as always. invaking has long life etyadi both need water saab. prestolite is trusted by us since 1999. I can blindly put my money on the b rand.
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24th July 2008, 17:30	#5
anujmishra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,293 Thanked: 529 Times View My Garage	Amco 180Ah for Rs. 7600 I am using Amco 180 Ah battery for 800VA Sukam inverter for last 1 year and 6 months. Till now there is no problem. It costed me around Rs. 7800. Remember Ah rating is very much important when you are buying new battery. Dealers will try to convince you for 110, 120, 140 or 160 Ah. But 180 Ah is good deal and have long back up time. Only thing is that you have to keep vigil on Water level in battery and topup when required for prolonged battery life. Never ever plates should be exposed outside of water.
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24th July 2008, 17:44	#6
black12rr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ridin earth now Posts: 1,280 Thanked: 349 Times	@anuj , what are you running on the inverter and how long will the complete charge last . How is the inverter itself ? BTW 180 AH for 7800 only ? are you sure ? what is the warranty on the battery ? .Why I am asking is that presolite ,sukam or other batteries even for 100 AH will cost ~8000 rs . Last edited by black12rr : 24th July 2008 at 17:48.
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24th July 2008, 21:49	#7
gopalnayak BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 63 Thanked: 30 Times	Picked up Exide EL+ series (http://www.exide4u.com/exide/images/pdf/ups_el+.pdf) a few days back. 5 yrs All India replacement warranty! Gives real peace of mind. But expensive, had to pay 14k (with bill) for a 130AH battery. Note that the AH rating also has a discharge rate spec attached to it. This is a C10 130AH. This would be equivalent to 165AH C20 battery (150AH C20 battery is equivalent to 120AH C10 for most batteries). Most of the low cost batteries have their capacities mentioned at C20. I hear that the Inva Tubular series is also good. Costs about 11k for 150AH C20 battery, 2.5 yrs warranty. Still went for EL+ for the warranty it offers. Wanted to make sure that I don't spend any money on batteries for a long time to come.
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25th July 2008, 11:44	#8
ST7677 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,071 Thanked: 103 Times Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Sounds good, the PDF says that normal battery life is 8-10 years... and refilling between 6-9 months... Was this the MRP of the negotiated price? What does C10 & C20 refer to and what's the benefit?
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25th July 2008, 11:51	#9
Lord Lucan BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 144 Thanked: 74 Times	gopalnayak: Please let me know the details of the inverter that you are using with this battery.
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28th July 2008, 09:14	#12
Blue_V BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 173 Thanked: 67 Times	tata bp solar has a product called eco genie, that comes with special batteries. "deep cycle" batteries. they are more suited for inverters. maybe you can check it out.
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14th September 2009, 11:29	#13
Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,633 Thanked: 5,977 Times	Guys, the battery of my inverter has conked out. The inverter is Usha Zentra, will run 4 Tubes + 4 Fans + 1 TV (full load ) for about 3.5 hours. It came with a Prestolite 15000 battery that went kaput when just 10 days remained of the 18 month warranty. Got a free replacement of Prestolite 12000 battery (since 15000 was out of stock) last september, and exactly one year later, this one too is on the blink! I was checking and topping up water for both batteries myself, once in 30 - 40 days regularly. Please suggest what brand I should go for. I want a long life battery with max warranty, and I don't mind the chore of checking water level once a month.
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14th September 2009, 15:46	#14
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Amaron!! Have been using Amaron Shield since last 4.5 - 5 years! Still going good. Base Terminal could also be worth considering... esp. if cheaper and if it has an attractive warranty period.
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14th September 2009, 16:21	#15
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,809 Times	Just remember that you may get low maintenance batteries but not Maintenance free batteries. This sort of operation from deep discharge to full charge will always require some maintenance
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