Need Advice on "Graphic Card"

parimal_g · 7th February 2009, 17:46

@greenhorn

Didnt get your question. ?

NOS Power · 8th July 2009, 13:11

Got one question.

Is the 9500GT PCIE 1 compatible? Or is it just for PCIE 2 boards

aaggoswami · 11th July 2009, 08:30

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Originally Posted by NOS Power

Got one question.

Is the 9500GT PCIE 1 compatible? Or is it just for PCIE 2 boards

Yes, its compatible. I am using it on 1 slot. No issues about anything. Only thing is that even if temperature goes up, the fan speed will not increase. You will have to use RivaTuner or some other third party software for this. My friend has 9600GT on 2.0 slot. The fan speed is automatically controlled. This is not the case with my card and slot. I always use latest drivers.
Also have a look at ATi cards. They are quite good too.

theragingbull · 14th December 2009, 16:28

Hey! I'm looking for a graphics card withing Rs.6000.
My PC has the following config:
Intel Core2Duo E7500 @2.93Ghz, 2GB DDR2 RAM. The motherboard is a Gigabyte S-series with PCI-E graphics interface. And it has a 400W PSU.

I am looking at the Nvidia Geforce 9500 & 9800GT and ATI Radeon HD4850.
The 9800 GT is a superior card but it needs a bigger PSU. And i don't know whether it'll work flawlessly, looking at my PC config.
Plz advice. Thanks!

d3mon · 15th December 2009, 01:50

If you don't want to upgrade your PSU, the Nvidia GT240 is your best bet. It doesn't even require an auxiliary power connector, and performs about the same as a 9600GT. Infact, it's the fastest graphics card available right now which doesn't need a power connector, and is a fair bit faster than the ATI 4670.

It's available for around 4.5-5k I think.

9800GT & 4850 would lead to a blown PSU for sure. They need around 20-22A on the 12V rail.

aaggoswami · 15th December 2009, 11:21

9500GT will not require external power to run.

Out of all the listed cards, the best option is to go for 9600GT. Will do most of the things well.

Consider the following :
1) HD 4770. Can match 4850/9800 in comparison yet eats less power.
2) HD4670
3) 9600GT

d3mon · 15th December 2009, 11:29

9600GT requires an external power connector. So does a 4770.

So, unless theragingbull wants to upgrade his PSU, they are not suitable!

And like I already mentioned, the 4670 is beaten handily by the GT240. So is the 9500GT. Not to mention, the GT240 also comes with PhysX and CUDA support, unlike the 4670.

GT240 FTW!!

aaggoswami · 15th December 2009, 15:38

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Originally Posted by d3mon

9600GT requires an external power connector. So does a 4770.

So, unless theragingbull wants to upgrade his PSU, they are not suitable!

And like I already mentioned, the 4670 is beaten handily by the GT240. So is the 9500GT. Not to mention, the GT240 also comes with PhysX and CUDA support, unlike the 4670.

GT240 FTW!!

400W PSU will be able to handle 9600GT and 4770. I have those systems running in friend's circle. No issues with PSU so far.

GT240 is nice without doubt and a sincere attack by nvidia, but I still think that going in for 4770 will be a good deal as its a much better performing card.

Check out if you PSU can take load of 4770 or not. If it can go for it else go for GT240.

Here is the link to power calculator : Antec Power Supply Calculator

theragingbull · 15th December 2009, 20:08

Thanks for the suggestions. Will games like GRID, Call of Duty 4 run on GT240? And should i go for 512MB or 1GB version?
And if i plan to upgrade my PSU to 600W, how much will it cost?

aaggoswami · 15th December 2009, 21:53

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Originally Posted by theragingbull

Thanks for the suggestions. Will games like GRID, Call of Duty 4 run on GT240? And should i go for 512MB or 1GB version?
And if i plan to upgrade my PSU to 600W, how much will it cost?

1) The games you have mentioned will run on medium setting on almost all cards except 9500GT. 4670,4770,9600GT GT240 all will run it on medium setting well.

512 or 1GB will not make as much of a difference as the type of memory. To the best of my knowledge, mostly the 512 MB version has GDDR5 memory which is faster and 1GB has GDDR3. I will suggest 512 MB GDDR5 GT240.

2) Depends on brand. Coolermaster Extreme 600W RP-600 will cost around 3.7-3.8K and CM Silent Pro M600 RS-600 will cost around 6.7-6.8K.

Not sure about street price as street price is different from city to city, and shop to shop. Go to a wholesale shop for lowest cost.

d3mon · 15th December 2009, 23:48

GT240 will run Call of duty 4, GRID etc @1680x1050 (typical 22" monitor) at highest settings butter smooth. Neither of these is a particularly demanding game. Unless you have a higher resolution monitor(1920x1200) there is really no point spending more for a better graphics card.

And yes, a 512MB GDDR5 version will be your best bet. 1GB VRAM will not make it any faster.

While a branded (coolermaster/antec/other decent brands) 400W PSU will be sufficient for a 9600GT, I'm assuming you have a generic power supply.

Instead of relying on the inflated wattages, it's best to look for the load amperes that the PSU can supply on the all important +12v rail. Like I said before, something around 22A on +12V should be fine for 9800GT, which is the card with the highest power draw here.

Bumble Beast · 15th December 2009, 23:54

For 9800GT, GT240 All you need is a Cooler master Real Power Pro 460W. Would retail for 3.8k Max. And as for the 512 and 1gb version If its Nvidia, its GDDR3.

aaggoswami · 16th December 2009, 00:09

The slot provides 75W itself. If you are buying 4770, you need not worry a lot.
wattage = amp * volt.
If you are upgrading PSU do consider what max you rails can give.
12V1, 12V2 adn 12V3 indicate the no. of rails and they will have 1, 2 and 3 12V rails respectively.

I am not sure, but I love to keep around 40-50W extra and as soon as the config goes high, I keep that buffer higher. I am not sure of PSU wattage rating. I am currently utilizing 328W approx from my old 400W Iball PSU.

So IMO, having a higher power PSU wont hurt and when you are adding, lets say HDD or are upgrading a bit, you need not worry.

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Originally Posted by Bumble Beast

For 9800GT, GT240 All you need is a Cooler master Real Power Pro 460W. Would retail for 3.8k Max. And as for the 512 and 1gb version If its Nvidia, its GDDR3.

240 is 40nm card unlike G92 that comes in 65 and 55nm. Here they have utilized GDDR5 for 512MB and GDDR3 for 1GB.

In case of 9800GT it needs that, but GT240 does not need that external power connector.

Bumble Beast · 16th December 2009, 01:02

My bad, The GT240 as GDDR5.

theragingbull · 16th December 2009, 23:12

So I'm mostly finalizing on the GT240. Tech2 even reviewed it and rated it at 4.5/5!
Tech2.com India > Zotac GeForce GT 240 > Reviews > PCs & Laptops > Graphics

Now I'm only worried that my LCD monitor is pretty old and has a max resolution of 1280x1024. So will the newest games have good graphics on that and will they work smoothly?

7th February 2009, 17:46	#76
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	@greenhorn Didnt get your question. ?
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8th July 2009, 13:11	#77
NOS Power BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kolkata Posts: 404 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	Got one question. Is the 9500GT PCIE 1 compatible? Or is it just for PCIE 2 boards
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14th December 2009, 16:28	#79
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 651 Times View My Garage	Hey! I'm looking for a graphics card withing Rs.6000. My PC has the following config: Intel Core2Duo E7500 @2.93Ghz, 2GB DDR2 RAM. The motherboard is a Gigabyte S-series with PCI-E graphics interface. And it has a 400W PSU. I am looking at the Nvidia Geforce 9500 & 9800GT and ATI Radeon HD4850. The 9800 GT is a superior card but it needs a bigger PSU. And i don't know whether it'll work flawlessly, looking at my PC config. Plz advice. Thanks!
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15th December 2009, 01:50	#80
d3mon BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 991 Thanked: 5,113 Times	If you don't want to upgrade your PSU, the Nvidia GT240 is your best bet. It doesn't even require an auxiliary power connector, and performs about the same as a 9600GT. Infact, it's the fastest graphics card available right now which doesn't need a power connector, and is a fair bit faster than the ATI 4670. It's available for around 4.5-5k I think. 9800GT & 4850 would lead to a blown PSU for sure. They need around 20-22A on the 12V rail.
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15th December 2009, 11:21	#81
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,997 Thanked: 3,012 Times	9500GT will not require external power to run. Out of all the listed cards, the best option is to go for 9600GT. Will do most of the things well. Consider the following : 1) HD 4770. Can match 4850/9800 in comparison yet eats less power. 2) HD4670 3) 9600GT
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15th December 2009, 11:29	#82
d3mon BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 991 Thanked: 5,113 Times	9600GT requires an external power connector. So does a 4770. So, unless theragingbull wants to upgrade his PSU, they are not suitable! And like I already mentioned, the 4670 is beaten handily by the GT240. So is the 9500GT. Not to mention, the GT240 also comes with PhysX and CUDA support, unlike the 4670. GT240 FTW!!
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15th December 2009, 20:08	#84
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 651 Times View My Garage	Thanks for the suggestions. Will games like GRID, Call of Duty 4 run on GT240? And should i go for 512MB or 1GB version? And if i plan to upgrade my PSU to 600W, how much will it cost?
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15th December 2009, 23:48	#86
d3mon BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 991 Thanked: 5,113 Times	GT240 will run Call of duty 4, GRID etc @1680x1050 (typical 22" monitor) at highest settings butter smooth. Neither of these is a particularly demanding game. Unless you have a higher resolution monitor(1920x1200) there is really no point spending more for a better graphics card. And yes, a 512MB GDDR5 version will be your best bet. 1GB VRAM will not make it any faster. While a branded (coolermaster/antec/other decent brands) 400W PSU will be sufficient for a 9600GT, I'm assuming you have a generic power supply. Instead of relying on the inflated wattages, it's best to look for the load amperes that the PSU can supply on the all important +12v rail. Like I said before, something around 22A on +12V should be fine for 9800GT, which is the card with the highest power draw here.
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15th December 2009, 23:54	#87
Bumble Beast BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 116 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	For 9800GT, GT240 All you need is a Cooler master Real Power Pro 460W. Would retail for 3.8k Max. And as for the 512 and 1gb version If its Nvidia, its GDDR3.
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16th December 2009, 01:02	#89
Bumble Beast BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 116 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	My bad, The GT240 as GDDR5.
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16th December 2009, 23:12	#90
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 651 Times View My Garage	So I'm mostly finalizing on the GT240. Tech2 even reviewed it and rated it at 4.5/5! Tech2.com India > Zotac GeForce GT 240 > Reviews > PCs & Laptops > Graphics Now I'm only worried that my LCD monitor is pretty old and has a max resolution of 1280x1024. So will the newest games have good graphics on that and will they work smoothly?
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