What brand is your digital music player?

EVO6 · 15th July 2005, 15:01

None ....
Still believe in the good old CD's ... Cant listen to compressed music .. There is so much loss of signal ...
Tried to use Creative 5 years back but didnt like the output so quit ...

tsk1979 · 15th July 2005, 15:08

mp3 at 192kbps will give you near CD quality with the difference being measurable only if you have exceptional ears or sophisticated equipment. You can always rip at 320kbps which is CD quality, and things have changed a loooot since past 5 years

adya33 · 15th July 2005, 15:36

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Originally Posted by EVO6

None ....
Still believe in the good old CD's ... Cant listen to compressed music .. There is so much loss of signal ...
Tried to use Creative 5 years back but didnt like the output so quit ...

here is something for you

"LOOSELESS"
audio compressed with looseless codec will give you cd quality sound only drawback is file size but a large memory player will do the trick

tsk1979 · 15th July 2005, 15:47

its LOSSLESS i think. And the codec is flac, but most mp3 players support wmv/mp3 and some support ogg. So 320kbps mp3 is the best bet as it is "Cd quality"

navin · 15th July 2005, 16:12

ref: Lossless codecs: flac is one, wavpack is another, monkey audio (ape) is a 3rd, even WMP (windows Media Player) has one .......these codecs are what is considered to me MATHEMATICALLY lossless. No one said anything about aural quality.

I use Wavpak and Lame (--alt preset extreme). wavpack gives me 1:2 compression and lame about 1:5. you can use foopod on your ipod to play both (as well as flac etc...). check out hydrogenaudio.org for more.

adya33 · 15th July 2005, 17:20

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

its LOSSLESS i think. And the codec is flac, but most mp3 players support wmv/mp3 and some support ogg. So 320kbps mp3 is the best bet as it is "Cd quality"

sorry for the typo

WMV also has Lossless compression
MP3 has Flac
& for Apple also has lossless for their format.

EVO6 · 15th July 2005, 18:06

Tsk/Adya,
Thanx for the info ...
But the problem is I have a very high end audio system and it reveals all junk in the recording immd .. And because of that my ear have been tuned to good music spectrum ...
And anyways most MP3's that you can download are at 128k and hence the quality is bad ... If u have the CD for ripping then why go thru the trouble of using a digital player ... might as well use the CD ... No electronic music format beats the audio spectrum of the the CD ,DVD-A and High end LP's ...
Also tried using a Ipod which my bro uses but its the same thing ... Doesnt come anywhere close to that of a CD ...
With Rock and Dance music is doesnt matter but with Classics, Lounge, Chillout ... It does make a difference

navin · 15th July 2005, 23:04

at home i can understand using CD but in a car with road noise I am surprised if youd notice esp if you are driving.

besides while CD might sound better Solid State players (Ipod Shuffle etc..) are far more portable. Once the 20GB flash memory is out you could carry about 3000 songs at 256k. Pays to startbuilding your collection now.

you can download good quality Mp3s too from sites like http://www.ubernet.org/ there are also sites to download flac, wavpack, and ape files as well as -alt-present-extreme. ofcourse you need good bandwidth for this.

adya33 · 15th July 2005, 23:45

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besides while CD might sound better Solid State players (Ipod Shuffle etc..) are far more portable. Once the 20GB flash memory is out you could carry about 3000 songs at 256k. Pays to startbuilding your collection now.

just a little correction
iPod suffle is flash memory based player whoes max memory is 1GB
while 20GB iPod comes with HDD

iceman91 · 15th July 2005, 23:49

none at all....believe in audio cds..cannot stand the new digital players

v1p3r · 16th July 2005, 00:26

Discman...Panasonic MV 65. Never skipped a beat in its life. MP3, audio, you name it.

Btw, I always download at minimum or 192kbps, or even 320 if I can find it. No quality issues, but maybe I'm not too sensitive.

EVO6 · 16th July 2005, 12:22

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Originally Posted by navin

at home i can understand using CD but in a car with road noise I am surprised if youd notice esp if you are driving.

besides while CD might sound better Solid State players (Ipod Shuffle etc..) are far more portable. Once the 20GB flash memory is out you could carry about 3000 songs at 256k. Pays to startbuilding your collection now.

you can download good quality Mp3s too from sites like http://www.ubernet.org/ there are also sites to download flac, wavpack, and ape files as well as -alt-present-extreme. ofcourse you need good bandwidth for this.

Thanx for the info Navin.. But the site is a forum and I dont wanna join any other forum... Isnt there just some cool download site .. where one can search for song by name and then dwnld it ..

SMG · 16th July 2005, 21:40

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Originally Posted by EVO6

Thanx for the info Navin.. But the site is a forum and I dont wanna join any other forum... Isnt there just some cool download site .. where one can search for song by name and then dwnld it ..

Most music is copy righted and downloading w/o paying proper royalty is illegal , further such(so called) FREE downloading is an open invitation for viruses and may pose a big threat to your computer's security.

There are many reputed (and safe) sites which offer legal music downloads, BUT one has to PAY for it.

amitverma · 16th July 2005, 22:08

dont have a dedicated DAP yet.
But dont need that too. I got Sony CLIE UX50 PDA which takes care of all my Audio/Video/Gaming needs...

MP3s cannot give absolute CD-Quality Audio in anyway, but DAPs are mostly bought for their portability factor. if u are at home, obviously, u'll listen to ur home audio equipment.

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15th July 2005, 15:01	#16
EVO6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 488 Thanked: 13 Times	None .... Still believe in the good old CD's ... Cant listen to compressed music .. There is so much loss of signal ... Tried to use Creative 5 years back but didnt like the output so quit ...
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15th July 2005, 15:08	#17
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,489 Times View My Garage	mp3 at 192kbps will give you near CD quality with the difference being measurable only if you have exceptional ears or sophisticated equipment. You can always rip at 320kbps which is CD quality, and things have changed a loooot since past 5 years
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15th July 2005, 15:47	#19
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,489 Times View My Garage	its LOSSLESS i think. And the codec is flac, but most mp3 players support wmv/mp3 and some support ogg. So 320kbps mp3 is the best bet as it is "Cd quality"
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15th July 2005, 16:12	#20
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,410 Thanked: 9,968 Times	ref: Lossless codecs: flac is one, wavpack is another, monkey audio (ape) is a 3rd, even WMP (windows Media Player) has one .......these codecs are what is considered to me MATHEMATICALLY lossless. No one said anything about aural quality. I use Wavpak and Lame (--alt preset extreme). wavpack gives me 1:2 compression and lame about 1:5. you can use foopod on your ipod to play both (as well as flac etc...). check out hydrogenaudio.org for more.
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15th July 2005, 18:06	#22
EVO6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 488 Thanked: 13 Times	Tsk/Adya, Thanx for the info ... But the problem is I have a very high end audio system and it reveals all junk in the recording immd .. And because of that my ear have been tuned to good music spectrum ... And anyways most MP3's that you can download are at 128k and hence the quality is bad ... If u have the CD for ripping then why go thru the trouble of using a digital player ... might as well use the CD ... No electronic music format beats the audio spectrum of the the CD ,DVD-A and High end LP's ... Also tried using a Ipod which my bro uses but its the same thing ... Doesnt come anywhere close to that of a CD ... With Rock and Dance music is doesnt matter but with Classics, Lounge, Chillout ... It does make a difference Last edited by EVO6 : 15th July 2005 at 18:08.
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15th July 2005, 23:04	#23
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,410 Thanked: 9,968 Times	at home i can understand using CD but in a car with road noise I am surprised if youd notice esp if you are driving. besides while CD might sound better Solid State players (Ipod Shuffle etc..) are far more portable. Once the 20GB flash memory is out you could carry about 3000 songs at 256k. Pays to startbuilding your collection now. you can download good quality Mp3s too from sites like http://www.ubernet.org/ there are also sites to download flac, wavpack, and ape files as well as -alt-present-extreme. ofcourse you need good bandwidth for this. Last edited by navin : 15th July 2005 at 23:07.
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15th July 2005, 23:49	#25
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	none at all....believe in audio cds..cannot stand the new digital players
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16th July 2005, 00:26	#26
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,364 Thanked: 7,505 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	Discman...Panasonic MV 65. Never skipped a beat in its life. MP3, audio, you name it. Btw, I always download at minimum or 192kbps, or even 320 if I can find it. No quality issues, but maybe I'm not too sensitive.
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16th July 2005, 22:08	#29
amitverma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi Posts: 434 Thanked: 168 Times	dont have a dedicated DAP yet. But dont need that too. I got Sony CLIE UX50 PDA which takes care of all my Audio/Video/Gaming needs... MP3s cannot give absolute CD-Quality Audio in anyway, but DAPs are mostly bought for their portability factor. if u are at home, obviously, u'll listen to ur home audio equipment.
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