Indica Turbo Diesel or the Swift ?

kiranc · 24th March 2006, 14:49

Hi all,

I have been reading several threads on this forum.
I want a car which is sturdy in its build and that which performs well on Indian roads with reasonable power or mileage .

I think two cars stand out in the lot, The Indica turbo and the Swift.

Which of the two would you recommend ?

I am a little worried on the mileage aspect of the Swift.
I would take the Swift as its a well powered car.
But, how much mileage is everybody getting on the Swift ?

As for Indica... If Cab drivers are using it, the vehicle must be damn good for the abuse they put it through.
The Indicas interiors arent so bad either.

So which of the two should I consider ?

Cheers
Kiran

zulfikar · 24th March 2006, 14:52

i would say swift...

and please you are comparing a Td with Petrol...
if you want maintenance free go for swift...
i am not too sure about Indica TD but old indica start getting body Vib...
its your shot...
think and play...

anarchist · 24th March 2006, 14:55

If you are looking for an entry level diesel car Indica TDI is the one for you, if you are going for a B+ segment petrol car Swift it is for you. Swift gives 10+ in the City with a/c on petrol mind you. Indica TDI should give you 14+ on diesel.

revharder · 24th March 2006, 15:22

diesel and petrol models are two different categories to consider.

if your daily travel is less than about 60-70KMs then you'd go for a petrol car, else diesel is the best bet.

so decide your usage and pick the car.
both cars are good.

hrag · 24th March 2006, 15:45

Indica Turbo

Have you abandoned the Bolero?
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...ro-sportz.html

DCEite · 24th March 2006, 15:52

Well, it all boils down to your daily travel. If it is >50kms, i would say you should go for the Indica TDi. About mileage, obviously you are going to get more than Swift.
One thing i hate about Swift is that it looks huge from behind, but when you step inside, there is hardly any space to talk of..

I personally think that Indica TD DLG, with recent price cuts of about 20k, is a great great VFM..

nitrous · 24th March 2006, 16:07

If u're travelling a lot, the Turbo indica makes sense.

Else, I'd suggest the Swift

kiranc · 24th March 2006, 16:10

Yes, I have abandoned the Bolero purchase.

I am thinking of the Indica DLG turbo or the Swift VXi both which look sturdy. I am aware one is a Diesel while the other is a petrol... world of a difference there.
But I am okay with either one.

I am not looking at the Getz or the Santro as I really dont trust that Korean sheet metal body. Looks too flimsy to be safe.

Cheers
Kiran

rkg · 24th March 2006, 16:20

Hi!
today i travelled in a indica taxi whose speedo is showing 1,38,800 KM for 120 KM. it effortlesly crossed 90 KMPH on bangalore devanhalli route and is just fine. no body rattles, no doors fel part, the driver said he himself was driving the particular indica for 18000 KM and no problems at all. so i do not understand why do car magzines and people thing indica will not stnad long and its longterm reliabilty is doubtful etc etc.

garvit2002 · 24th March 2006, 16:33

indica produces better FE than the swift and torque too is better than swift .
the swift produces 113NM@4500RPM and
indica turbo produces 130NM@2500RPM and even the engine displacement is better with swift producing 1298cc and indica 1405cc and other + point s are more head and leg room

Zappo · 24th March 2006, 18:24

Ok... now that you have said that you are not bothered that Indica is a diesel against swift's petrol, and people have started counting out the virtues let me tell you some facts as one having some experience with Indicas (2, one is 2003 model and the other is the 2005 model but non-turbo).

First and foremost, if you take good care of your car Indica's diesel heart should not cost you any problems. As someone pointed to the 1.3L kms old Indica. The theory of running 50-60 kms everyday originated much earlier when diesel cars used to cost a bomb. Hence the calculation used to take those many kms into consideration so as to recover the premium one used to pay. An indica does not come with that premium in the first place. So there...

Maintenance wise every 5000 kms you will need to change oil and maybe filters religiously. Thats about it for regular services. At Tata's rates (most legitimate in the industry) that is hardly anything. And the FE is phenomenal for such a big car. My new non-turbo one definitely gives 17-18 in city (bad choked roads of Hyderabad) without AC. With AC that figure probably varies between 16.5-17.5 (yes only that much). The Turbo one probably will return a km less. At any cost it should give 15 minimum in city.

Only thing you need to check is that in terms of performance you won't have something that will set the Thames on fire (ok, make that Ganges)! I said that because your other choices (Swift, Baleno) are known for their zippier performances. A turbo diesel will have those turbo lags, and even thereafter won't be in the baleno class probably. However in terms of other factors like comfort, economy, size, reliability (yes I said reliability) you can be assured you will be smiling everyday. At least my personal experience says so

v1p3r · 24th March 2006, 18:43

Or you could wait 6 months and buy either a Getz CRDi or a Swift JTD, hook a Pete's box on, and get 20+ kmpl and awesome power.

k36 · 24th March 2006, 18:43

I faced the same dilemma a few weeks back. Heart said Swift for its performance, driving pleasure and image whereas head said Indica (Turbo/Xeta) for cost of ownership. Finally my heart won. Waiting for taking delivery next week

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Why don't you consider the Xeta? Performance is a little better than the Turbo and that too without the lag! Its a compromise between Swift and Turbo.

parijnan · 24th March 2006, 19:57

What is the price difference between the Turbo and the Swift??

Stratos · 25th March 2006, 02:12

As most of the people here have talked about Diesel vs Petrol, I wont talk on that. If you consider comfort, the Indica comes with a very good suspension and a much better back seat than the Swift.

About the maintainence, I sold my Indica in my neighbourhood. I see it everyday and keep a track about its reliability with the owner too. Its 4 years old now, still doing great having completed 67,000 kms.

If you maintain a diesel engine properly, it wont let you down. It is actually a misconception that diesel engines are not all that reliable after certain kms.

24th March 2006, 14:49	#1
kiranc Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Indica Turbo Diesel or the Swift ? Hi all, I have been reading several threads on this forum. I want a car which is sturdy in its build and that which performs well on Indian roads with reasonable power or mileage . I think two cars stand out in the lot, The Indica turbo and the Swift. Which of the two would you recommend ? I am a little worried on the mileage aspect of the Swift. I would take the Swift as its a well powered car. But, how much mileage is everybody getting on the Swift ? As for Indica... If Cab drivers are using it, the vehicle must be damn good for the abuse they put it through. The Indicas interiors arent so bad either. So which of the two should I consider ? Cheers Kiran Last edited by Zappo : 25th June 2008 at 00:35. Reason: No links to unrelated external sites please... either as a signature or a footer.
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24th March 2006, 14:52	#2
zulfikar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 532 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	i would say swift... and please you are comparing a Td with Petrol... if you want maintenance free go for swift... i am not too sure about Indica TD but old indica start getting body Vib... its your shot... think and play...
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24th March 2006, 14:55	#3
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	If you are looking for an entry level diesel car Indica TDI is the one for you, if you are going for a B+ segment petrol car Swift it is for you. Swift gives 10+ in the City with a/c on petrol mind you. Indica TDI should give you 14+ on diesel.
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24th March 2006, 15:22	#4
revharder BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 460 Thanked: 56 Times	diesel and petrol models are two different categories to consider. if your daily travel is less than about 60-70KMs then you'd go for a petrol car, else diesel is the best bet. so decide your usage and pick the car. both cars are good.
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24th March 2006, 15:45	#5
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	Indica Turbo Have you abandoned the Bolero? http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...ro-sportz.html
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24th March 2006, 15:52	#6
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,418 Thanked: 2,567 Times	Well, it all boils down to your daily travel. If it is >50kms, i would say you should go for the Indica TDi. About mileage, obviously you are going to get more than Swift. One thing i hate about Swift is that it looks huge from behind, but when you step inside, there is hardly any space to talk of.. I personally think that Indica TD DLG, with recent price cuts of about 20k, is a great great VFM.. Last edited by DCEite : 24th March 2006 at 15:54.
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24th March 2006, 16:07	#7
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	If u're travelling a lot, the Turbo indica makes sense. Else, I'd suggest the Swift
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24th March 2006, 16:10	#8
kiranc Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Yes, I have abandoned the Bolero purchase. I am thinking of the Indica DLG turbo or the Swift VXi both which look sturdy. I am aware one is a Diesel while the other is a petrol... world of a difference there. But I am okay with either one. I am not looking at the Getz or the Santro as I really dont trust that Korean sheet metal body. Looks too flimsy to be safe. Cheers Kiran
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24th March 2006, 16:20	#9
rkg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 594 Times	Hi! today i travelled in a indica taxi whose speedo is showing 1,38,800 KM for 120 KM. it effortlesly crossed 90 KMPH on bangalore devanhalli route and is just fine. no body rattles, no doors fel part, the driver said he himself was driving the particular indica for 18000 KM and no problems at all. so i do not understand why do car magzines and people thing indica will not stnad long and its longterm reliabilty is doubtful etc etc.
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24th March 2006, 16:33	#10
garvit2002 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jaipur Posts: 241 Thanked: 2 Times	indica produces better FE than the swift and torque too is better than swift . the swift produces 113NM@4500RPM and indica turbo produces 130NM@2500RPM and even the engine displacement is better with swift producing 1298cc and indica 1405cc and other + point s are more head and leg room
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24th March 2006, 18:24	#11
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	Ok... now that you have said that you are not bothered that Indica is a diesel against swift's petrol, and people have started counting out the virtues let me tell you some facts as one having some experience with Indicas (2, one is 2003 model and the other is the 2005 model but non-turbo). First and foremost, if you take good care of your car Indica's diesel heart should not cost you any problems. As someone pointed to the 1.3L kms old Indica. The theory of running 50-60 kms everyday originated much earlier when diesel cars used to cost a bomb. Hence the calculation used to take those many kms into consideration so as to recover the premium one used to pay. An indica does not come with that premium in the first place. So there... Maintenance wise every 5000 kms you will need to change oil and maybe filters religiously. Thats about it for regular services. At Tata's rates (most legitimate in the industry) that is hardly anything. And the FE is phenomenal for such a big car. My new non-turbo one definitely gives 17-18 in city (bad choked roads of Hyderabad) without AC. With AC that figure probably varies between 16.5-17.5 (yes only that much). The Turbo one probably will return a km less. At any cost it should give 15 minimum in city. Only thing you need to check is that in terms of performance you won't have something that will set the Thames on fire (ok, make that Ganges)! I said that because your other choices (Swift, Baleno) are known for their zippier performances. A turbo diesel will have those turbo lags, and even thereafter won't be in the baleno class probably. However in terms of other factors like comfort, economy, size, reliability (yes I said reliability) you can be assured you will be smiling everyday. At least my personal experience says so
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24th March 2006, 18:43	#12
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Or you could wait 6 months and buy either a Getz CRDi or a Swift JTD, hook a Pete's box on, and get 20+ kmpl and awesome power.
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24th March 2006, 18:43	#13
k36 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 133 Thanked: 21 Times	Xeta? I faced the same dilemma a few weeks back. Heart said Swift for its performance, driving pleasure and image whereas head said Indica (Turbo/Xeta) for cost of ownership. Finally my heart won. Waiting for taking delivery next week . Why don't you consider the Xeta? Performance is a little better than the Turbo and that too without the lag! Its a compromise between Swift and Turbo.
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24th March 2006, 19:57	#14
parijnan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 66 Thanked: 0 Times	What is the price difference between the Turbo and the Swift??
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25th March 2006, 02:12	#15
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,609 Thanked: 1,449 Times View My Garage	As most of the people here have talked about Diesel vs Petrol, I wont talk on that. If you consider comfort, the Indica comes with a very good suspension and a much better back seat than the Swift. About the maintainence, I sold my Indica in my neighbourhood. I see it everyday and keep a track about its reliability with the owner too. Its 4 years old now, still doing great having completed 67,000 kms. If you maintain a diesel engine properly, it wont let you down. It is actually a misconception that diesel engines are not all that reliable after certain kms.
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