Wagon R Or Santro?

raj_5004 · 19th May 2009, 21:01

thanks for the advice buddy. the A star looks plain ugly to me & even to her! so much that she dint even bother sitting in it!
if the i10, the next question would be- the 1.1 or the 1.2 kappa?! lol...

driving_smartly · 21st May 2009, 13:45

1.1 litre has same engine from santro Ecu remapping is done to increase it from 63 ps to 66 ps and sold are 1.1 irde.

Read some were in i10 thread

May be if am wrong please correct me

1.2 litre kappa engine is really good.

loving_alaap · 21st May 2009, 14:25

IF you opt for 1.2 than you have to forget about getting good FE. max 10-11 in city driving (AC on)

raj_5004 · 21st May 2009, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by driving_smartly

1.1 litre has same engine from santro Ecu remapping is done to increase it from 63 ps to 66 ps and sold are 1.1 irde.

Read some were in i10 thread

May be if am wrong please correct me

1.2 litre kappa engine is really good.

yes, you are absolutely right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by loving_alaap

IF you opt for 1.2 than you have to forget about getting good FE. max 10-11 in city driving (AC on)

10-11 kmpl is good figure for city driving, right?

ram_hyundai · 21st May 2009, 18:03

Raj,somehow i feel the i10 not VFM.The car is good and looks good too.But pricing is on a higher side.I feel either WR or santro should be the take as both are VFM.Get a look at the new ritz also.The LXi version of ritz would be almost in this price range.The seats are not that low in ritz.
ram

Technocrat · 21st May 2009, 18:12

Ram, i10 is certainly VFM when compared to Wagon R & Ritz. The quality of plastics is simply better & the list of equipments at a given price is more in i10.

I havent driven Ritz so cant compare the engines.

EDIT

@raj- If the car would be driven mostly in city then I would recommend the 1.1

greenhorn · 21st May 2009, 18:52

I'd agree with Ram that the i10 is not VFM. but then again, that is my opinion. Different people see value in different things. I dont see value in plastic , but apparently others do. I guess thats why I'm a satisfied Indica owner

@ Technocrat - doesnt the Ritz suffer the bad rear visiblity which is becoming a common trend across all new marutis ?

Technocrat · 21st May 2009, 18:59

Yes it does thats why I said i10 is better

Btw Rear view on Ritz is atleast better than Swift or so I felt(I havent driven Ritz yet)

You know its cars like Swift & Ritz which make the seemingly over priced i10 look suddenly more VFM

Anyways even price wise if you compare equipment then i10 is cheaper except for the ABS & Airbags variant which is ridiculously high priced.

raj_5004 · 22nd May 2009, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

Raj,somehow i feel the i10 not VFM.The car is good and looks good too.But pricing is on a higher side.I feel either WR or santro should be the take as both are VFM.Get a look at the new ritz also.The LXi version of ritz would be almost in this price range.The seats are not that low in ritz.
ram

they had a look at the ritz, but was not confortable with it's seating position.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technocrat

Ram, i10 is certainly VFM when compared to Wagon R & Ritz. The quality of plastics is simply better & the list of equipments at a given price is more in i10.

I havent driven Ritz so cant compare the engines.

EDIT

@raj- If the car would be driven mostly in city then I would recommend the 1.1

yes, even i think the 1.1 would make sense. since the car would be driven by a girl, performance hardly matters! but i hope hyundai will not phase out the 1.1 in due course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhorn

I'd agree with Ram that the i10 is not VFM. but then again, that is my opinion. Different people see value in different things. I dont see value in plastic , but apparently others do. I guess thats why I'm a satisfied Indica owner

@ Technocrat - doesnt the Ritz suffer the bad rear visiblity which is becoming a common trend across all new marutis ?

yes, even my cousin mentioned that rear visibilty is poor in the ritz.

Technocrat · 22nd May 2009, 11:46

Then go for the 1.1 Magna, I believe it will cost as much if not cheaper than Ritz LXi & will have much more features.

The 1.1 is a very peppy engine even more than the 1.2 it just lacks the top end like the 1.2, for city its really fun to drive. Hyundai too like Maruti doesnt phase out its cars early, so the 1.1 should not be an issue.

raj_5004 · 22nd May 2009, 13:25

Thanks a lot guys for you advice.

chiragh_bir · 22nd May 2009, 13:51

i would say wagon r ..

We have one in our family .. 10 years done 2 lakh Kms and not even single problem with engine !!

it still returns a good mileage of 14+ in cities and 17 on highways both with AC on!!

driving_smartly · 22nd May 2009, 14:54

Go for 1.1 irde or 1.2 kappa

choice solly remain yours because hyundai A.s.s is really Good

loving_alaap · 28th May 2009, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

10-11 kmpl is good figure for city driving, right?

No 10-11 max in city is not a good FE.

Wagon R is known o give 13-14 in the city.

k2max6 · 5th June 2009, 13:06

Wagon R would be phased out by the end of this year.
Around Novemebr most probably.
Would be replaced by a similar boxed car.But more stable.

Infact i am planning to sell myne before the phase out.

So Avoid Wagon R.Information from well placed sources in the industry.

19th May 2009, 21:01	#46
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	thanks for the advice buddy. the A star looks plain ugly to me & even to her! so much that she dint even bother sitting in it! if the i10, the next question would be- the 1.1 or the 1.2 kappa?! lol...
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21st May 2009, 13:45	#47
driving_smartly BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MH43 & MH14 Posts: 518 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	1.1 litre has same engine from santro Ecu remapping is done to increase it from 63 ps to 66 ps and sold are 1.1 irde. Read some were in i10 thread May be if am wrong please correct me 1.2 litre kappa engine is really good.
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21st May 2009, 14:25	#48
loving_alaap BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 808 Thanked: 9 Times	IF you opt for 1.2 than you have to forget about getting good FE. max 10-11 in city driving (AC on)
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21st May 2009, 18:03	#50
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Raj,somehow i feel the i10 not VFM.The car is good and looks good too.But pricing is on a higher side.I feel either WR or santro should be the take as both are VFM.Get a look at the new ritz also.The LXi version of ritz would be almost in this price range.The seats are not that low in ritz. ram
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21st May 2009, 18:12	#51
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Ram, i10 is certainly VFM when compared to Wagon R & Ritz. The quality of plastics is simply better & the list of equipments at a given price is more in i10. I havent driven Ritz so cant compare the engines. EDIT @raj- If the car would be driven mostly in city then I would recommend the 1.1 Last edited by Technocrat : 21st May 2009 at 18:13.
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21st May 2009, 18:52	#52
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	I'd agree with Ram that the i10 is not VFM. but then again, that is my opinion. Different people see value in different things. I dont see value in plastic , but apparently others do. I guess thats why I'm a satisfied Indica owner @ Technocrat - doesnt the Ritz suffer the bad rear visiblity which is becoming a common trend across all new marutis ?
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21st May 2009, 18:59	#53
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Yes it does thats why I said i10 is better Btw Rear view on Ritz is atleast better than Swift or so I felt(I havent driven Ritz yet) You know its cars like Swift & Ritz which make the seemingly over priced i10 look suddenly more VFM Anyways even price wise if you compare equipment then i10 is cheaper except for the ABS & Airbags variant which is ridiculously high priced.
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22nd May 2009, 11:46	#55
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Then go for the 1.1 Magna, I believe it will cost as much if not cheaper than Ritz LXi & will have much more features. The 1.1 is a very peppy engine even more than the 1.2 it just lacks the top end like the 1.2, for city its really fun to drive. Hyundai too like Maruti doesnt phase out its cars early, so the 1.1 should not be an issue.
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22nd May 2009, 13:25	#56
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	Thanks a lot guys for you advice.
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22nd May 2009, 13:51	#57
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	i would say wagon r .. We have one in our family .. 10 years done 2 lakh Kms and not even single problem with engine !! it still returns a good mileage of 14+ in cities and 17 on highways both with AC on!!
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22nd May 2009, 14:54	#58
driving_smartly BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MH43 & MH14 Posts: 518 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Go for 1.1 irde or 1.2 kappa choice solly remain yours because hyundai A.s.s is really Good Last edited by driving_smartly : 22nd May 2009 at 14:56.
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5th June 2009, 13:06	#60
k2max6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 523 Thanked: 183 Times	Wagon R would be phased out by the end of this year. Around Novemebr most probably. Would be replaced by a similar boxed car.But more stable. Infact i am planning to sell myne before the phase out. So Avoid Wagon R.Information from well placed sources in the industry.
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