Upgrade from Indica Diesel

raaj127 · 11th December 2006, 19:34

Hi,

I need help in choosing a good diesel car for my parents. They travel a lot (around 3000 km/month). the current Indica Diesel they own has 80K in less than 3 years. I am getting a request for 2.3L for this one.

I thought of upgrading into an Indigo Marina Diesel, but a friend advised that the current Version has some mileage and tyre problems and is suggesting to go for a Indigo Diesel. I am a bit confused, since some people in this thread talked about Petra Diesel and how it is better than Indigo.

Please help me spot a good car with nice leg room, fuel efficiency and less maintenance.

Regards,
Raaj

tsk1979 · 11th December 2006, 19:43

Petra is a great car. The only problems are
1. Lack of power as compared to indigo.
2. Spares and service support.
Build quality is top notch. If you don't mind bad after sales support and can do with part shortages, petra is okay. Keep in mind that if you get a failure etc., you may have to wait for few days for your car to be functional again, since tata is not pushing the Petra due to obvious reasons.
As for current batch problems etc., indigo sells more than the marina, so lot of kinks have been ironed out. Since both are the same car except rear suspension setup and other minor things, even marina should be a safe buy. So mileage problems are heresay, because both of them share the same engine and electricals.

extreme_torque · 11th December 2006, 19:43

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Originally Posted by raaj127

Hi,

I need help in choosing a good diesel car for my parents. They travel a lot (around 3000 km/month). the current Indica Diesel they own has 80K in less than 3 years. I am getting a request for 2.3L for this one.

I thought of upgrading into an Indigo Marina Diesel, but a friend advised that the current Version has some mileage and tyre problems and is suggesting to go for a Indigo Diesel. I am a bit confused, since some people in this thread talked about Petra Diesel and how it is better than Indigo.

Please help me spot a good car with nice leg room, fuel efficiency and less maintenance.

Regards,
Raaj

Dunno what your friend is talking about but Marina is mechanically almost the same as Indigo but with Gas rear shock absorbers. If you like marina there's no reason why you should stop yourself from doing so.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 12th December 2006, 00:00

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque

Dunno what your friend is talking about but Marina is mechanically almost the same as Indigo but with Gas rear shock absorbers. If you like marina there's no reason why you should stop yourself from doing so.

Besides... Its been a long time since Marina has been launched... Even the indigo got refreshed after that... So, it should be a safe buy...

Petra... Nice car... But... FIAT service... (Things look better with new TATA tie up... But still)

netarchie · 12th December 2006, 00:20

Indigo and Marina diesel are the right choice for your upgrade. Will offer more luxury and good mileage also.

Zappo · 12th December 2006, 00:21

Even after the Fiat-Tata alliance only few Fiats which have started moving are the Palios. As the sales guy at the local dealership was telling me that they are given targets to sell the Fiats as well. However no matter how they try Petras do not get sold and so they only stock Palios. Petras are ordered on booking.

By the way raaj... tell me something. Its only your parents who move around, right? I mean only two people... Do they also carry a lot of luggage? Why do you need such a big car as Marina? I mean if FE is a concern I would suggest stick to the Indica Turbo. Fold up the rear seats and you have a cavernous boot as well. The car is a hoot to drive and FE is way better than a Marina.

Think about it... unless of course your parents want to move up to something bigger.

raaj127 · 12th December 2006, 10:59

Though its only for my parents use, they move a lot out of town and hence the need to carry stuff around. In the current Indica I had to attach the luggage carrier.

Thanks for your replies. Its been very useful. I think I will settle for the Indigo.

shuvc · 12th December 2006, 13:14

@raaj, I understand you have probably decided on the Indigo ..
Just wanted to bump this thread once since I was wondering whether you had considered the Tavera/Safari .. although more expensive, these would be pretty good for long hauls with luggage space requirement.

himanshugoswami · 12th December 2006, 13:43

Raj,

u have not mentioned your budget. Hence it becomes a bit difficult to suggest a good upgrade. While the indigo/marina are good upgrades, their basic interior design is the same as the indica. Since you will be spending a good amount of money, dont you want that the upgrade should also feel like one? if you are on a tight budget, then the indigo/marina maker perfect sense. If you can stretch your budget upwards by a lakh and a half, the fiesta and the verna diesel are well worth a look.

Want diesel performance but not wanting to spend too much cash- look at the accent crdi- it is a little low on interior room compared to the indigo, but that 3 pot CRDi mill can still bring a smile on your face while at the same time consistently delivering 15+ KPL with AC!

tsk1979 · 12th December 2006, 13:48

Accent crdi costs just 30,000 less than the Verna, which pegs it around 7L. After discounts it will be atleast 6.8 ex showroom.
As for room, it is uncomfortable for tall people. If you are willing to spend that much then Verna is a better option, but if your budget is less than 6 Indigo or Marina are the best options

Iknowthisguy · 12th December 2006, 13:57

I agree with himanshugoswami
when your are spending so much dough & you also want to upgrade then why to go for Indigo/marina?

Though both cars are economical & can be fetched at 5 lacs but you can have a look at Accent / Verna CRDI or you can even look at Fiesta TDCi

As the car would be primarily used by your parents...its well refined & comfortable.

nitrous · 12th December 2006, 14:20

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Accent crdi costs just 30,000 less than the Verna, which pegs it around 7L. After discounts it will be atleast 6.8 ex showroom.

Accent CRDi costs 7.2 lakhs on-road with discounts.

esteem_lover · 12th December 2006, 14:46

The accent has a pretty decent legspace at the rear. Presuming that your parents will be having someone to drive them, it suits them fine & a far better car than the indigo

tsk1979 · 12th December 2006, 15:04

Decent? I doubt anybody taller than 5'8" can sit in the rear without front seats fully pulled front. With front seats pulled back, its going to be very very cramped in rear.
For rear seat comfort, indigo/marina is miles ahead.

hrag · 12th December 2006, 15:10

80K km in less than 3 years - they need to sit comfortably. Whatever else they liked or did not like about the car, I guarantee the car would have spoilt them in terms of space. Luggage space and seat comfort? The Indigo / Marina would be their best bet.

11th December 2006, 19:34	#1
raaj127 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Upgrade from Indica Diesel Hi, I need help in choosing a good diesel car for my parents. They travel a lot (around 3000 km/month). the current Indica Diesel they own has 80K in less than 3 years. I am getting a request for 2.3L for this one. I thought of upgrading into an Indigo Marina Diesel, but a friend advised that the current Version has some mileage and tyre problems and is suggesting to go for a Indigo Diesel. I am a bit confused, since some people in this thread talked about Petra Diesel and how it is better than Indigo. Please help me spot a good car with nice leg room, fuel efficiency and less maintenance. Regards, Raaj
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11th December 2006, 19:43	#2
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Petra is a great car. The only problems are 1. Lack of power as compared to indigo. 2. Spares and service support. Build quality is top notch. If you don't mind bad after sales support and can do with part shortages, petra is okay. Keep in mind that if you get a failure etc., you may have to wait for few days for your car to be functional again, since tata is not pushing the Petra due to obvious reasons. As for current batch problems etc., indigo sells more than the marina, so lot of kinks have been ironed out. Since both are the same car except rear suspension setup and other minor things, even marina should be a safe buy. So mileage problems are heresay, because both of them share the same engine and electricals.
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12th December 2006, 00:20	#5
netarchie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 397 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	Indigo and Marina diesel are the right choice for your upgrade. Will offer more luxury and good mileage also.
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12th December 2006, 00:21	#6
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	Even after the Fiat-Tata alliance only few Fiats which have started moving are the Palios. As the sales guy at the local dealership was telling me that they are given targets to sell the Fiats as well. However no matter how they try Petras do not get sold and so they only stock Palios. Petras are ordered on booking. By the way raaj... tell me something. Its only your parents who move around, right? I mean only two people... Do they also carry a lot of luggage? Why do you need such a big car as Marina? I mean if FE is a concern I would suggest stick to the Indica Turbo. Fold up the rear seats and you have a cavernous boot as well. The car is a hoot to drive and FE is way better than a Marina. Think about it... unless of course your parents want to move up to something bigger. Last edited by Zappo : 12th December 2006 at 00:24.
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12th December 2006, 10:59	#7
raaj127 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Though its only for my parents use, they move a lot out of town and hence the need to carry stuff around. In the current Indica I had to attach the luggage carrier. Thanks for your replies. Its been very useful. I think I will settle for the Indigo.
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12th December 2006, 13:14	#8
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	@raaj, I understand you have probably decided on the Indigo .. Just wanted to bump this thread once since I was wondering whether you had considered the Tavera/Safari .. although more expensive, these would be pretty good for long hauls with luggage space requirement.
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12th December 2006, 13:43	#9
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	Raj, u have not mentioned your budget. Hence it becomes a bit difficult to suggest a good upgrade. While the indigo/marina are good upgrades, their basic interior design is the same as the indica. Since you will be spending a good amount of money, dont you want that the upgrade should also feel like one? if you are on a tight budget, then the indigo/marina maker perfect sense. If you can stretch your budget upwards by a lakh and a half, the fiesta and the verna diesel are well worth a look. Want diesel performance but not wanting to spend too much cash- look at the accent crdi- it is a little low on interior room compared to the indigo, but that 3 pot CRDi mill can still bring a smile on your face while at the same time consistently delivering 15+ KPL with AC!
	() Thanks

12th December 2006, 13:48	#10
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Accent crdi costs just 30,000 less than the Verna, which pegs it around 7L. After discounts it will be atleast 6.8 ex showroom. As for room, it is uncomfortable for tall people. If you are willing to spend that much then Verna is a better option, but if your budget is less than 6 Indigo or Marina are the best options
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12th December 2006, 13:57	#11
Iknowthisguy BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 63 Thanked: Once	I agree with himanshugoswami when your are spending so much dough & you also want to upgrade then why to go for Indigo/marina? Though both cars are economical & can be fetched at 5 lacs but you can have a look at Accent / Verna CRDI or you can even look at Fiesta TDCi As the car would be primarily used by your parents...its well refined & comfortable.
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12th December 2006, 14:46	#13
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	The accent has a pretty decent legspace at the rear. Presuming that your parents will be having someone to drive them, it suits them fine & a far better car than the indigo
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12th December 2006, 15:04	#14
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Decent? I doubt anybody taller than 5'8" can sit in the rear without front seats fully pulled front. With front seats pulled back, its going to be very very cramped in rear. For rear seat comfort, indigo/marina is miles ahead.
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12th December 2006, 15:10	#15
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	80K km in less than 3 years - they need to sit comfortably. Whatever else they liked or did not like about the car, I guarantee the car would have spoilt them in terms of space. Luggage space and seat comfort? The Indigo / Marina would be their best bet.
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