Buying Swift in exchange of Esteem

bhogalrajnish · 9th February 2009, 16:09

I have a 2001 Esteem VX in not so good condition- The Ac dose not work and there are rattles here and there. I am planning to buy a new swift Vxi with ABS here is the deal that I am getting:

Esteem 2001 2nd owner valued at Rs - 85000
Swift Vxi with ABS 481000
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Exchange Bonus 10000
Corporate discount 10000
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Remaining Amount 376000
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Cash Payment 125000 -- Planing to pay cash
Finance (SBI @ 12 %) 251000 -- EMI 3 Years around 9000 PM.

Questions:
> Looks like a fair deal to me should I go for it or try and sell the Esteem outside though one of the local car dealer offered the same deal around 90K for the esteem ?
> Swift Vxi or Vxi +ABS (20K Difference) I mostly drive in the city(Gurgaon) + occasional highway trips, do I really need ABS ?
> Should I go for after market alloy wheels or buy the Zxi wheels for 22K + Bigger tyres( Will loose some money on the wheels from Vxi if bought from the dealer). Are the standard wheels good enough ?
>Not sure of the color short listing Grey or white (dont like to be the center of attention).

Rajnish

ASHISHPALLOD · 9th February 2009, 16:24

man,
you are getting very good price for your esteem.
last month, my friend got 2003 esteem for 85k.

Proxima · 9th February 2009, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhogalrajnish

I have a 2001 Esteem VX in not so good condition- The Ac dose not work and there are rattles here and there. I am planning to buy a new swift Vxi with ABS here is the deal that I am getting:

Esteem 2001 2nd owner valued at Rs - 85000
Swift Vxi with ABS 481000
-----------
Exchange Bonus 10000
Corporate discount 10000
------------
Remaining Amount 376000
------------
Cash Payment 125000 -- Planing to pay cash
Finance (SBI @ 12 %) 251000 -- EMI 3 Years around 9000 PM.

Questions:
> Looks like a fair deal to me should I go for it or try and sell the Esteem outside though one of the local car dealer offered the same deal around 90K for the esteem ?
> Swift Vxi or Vxi +ABS (20K Difference) I mostly drive in the city(Gurgaon) + occasional highway trips, do I really need ABS ?
> Should I go for after market alloy wheels or buy the Zxi wheels for 22K + Bigger tyres( Will loose some money on the wheels from Vxi if bought from the dealer). Are the standard wheels good enough ?
>Not sure of the color short listing Grey or white (dont like to be the center of attention).

Rajnish

If you don't like rattles, per the general perception here, don't buy a Swift.

bhogalrajnish · 9th February 2009, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Proxima

If you don't like rattles, per the general perception here, don't buy a Swift.

Never met anybody who likes rattels in their car but im shore will rattel less than my 8+ years old esteem, Driven like a rally car all over Himachal my home state. + the suspention rattel + Left door rattel + the boot rattel and I can go on. Looks like its a good time to sell the car though the engine and gearbox are perfect and gives me a FE of around 14 in the city but the car is old and I dont feel like spending much time and money on the car + it may not fetch me even 50K after a year. Not shore wht else to buy under 5L, dont like Hyundai cars much TATA cars are out of question.

DieselFan · 9th February 2009, 17:03

Rattles on Swift can be fixed with a help of a good mechanic in MASS. I have fixed mine long back and has not given any issues henceforth. Even if there are minor rattles surfacing later the same can be fixed very easily by MASS. I didn't find that an issue at all.

bhogalrajnish · 9th February 2009, 19:52

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Originally Posted by DieselFan

Rattles on Swift can be fixed with a help of a good mechanic in MASS. I have fixed mine long back and has not given any issues henceforth. Even if there are minor rattles surfacing later the same can be fixed very easily by MASS. I didn't find that an issue at all.

Good to know that. I have zerod down to the Swift and thats final. Just wondering if I am getting a good deal and my confusion about the version ABS/non ABS and about the tyres and wheels I should go for.

AirWind · 10th February 2009, 09:39

If your budget permits, get the Zxi; owning a Swift Vxi non-ABS

, I have many times repented for not picking up the Zxi for the ABS, Airbags for safety, ACC, rear wipers, driver seat height adjust for comfort.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhogalrajnish

Good to know that. I have zerod down to the Swift and thats final. Just wondering if I am getting a good deal and my confusion about the version ABS/non ABS and about the tyres and wheels I should go for.

Fountainheader · 10th February 2009, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirWind

If your budget permits, get the Zxi; owning a Swift Vxi non-ABS

, I have many times repented for not picking up the Zxi for the ABS, Airbags for safety, ACC, rear wipers, driver seat height adjust for comfort.

I'd second this. For the price difference between the VXi ABS and ZXi, you get a hell lot more that its worth.

DieselFan · 10th February 2009, 14:26

If not Swift ZXI go for VXI+ABS. ABS is a must. go for it. I tried getting a VDI+ABS during launch and Maruti didn't promise me delivery for 4-6 months. Hence had to go for non ABS version. I still repent it.

ABS helps more in city driving than in highway. Urgent breaking conditions come up more often in city driving than in highways.

carboy · 10th February 2009, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhogalrajnish

Good to know that. I have zerod down to the Swift and thats final. Just wondering if I am getting a good deal and my confusion about the version ABS/non ABS and about the tyres and wheels I should go for.

Swift choice between the versions is pretty simple.

In my opinion, there are 3 choices - LXI, VXI-ABS & ZXI.
- No point in going for just VXI - you can instead get the LXI & get everything else in the VXI aftermarket at a cheaper rate.
- Go for VXI-ABS if you want ABS.
- Go for ZXI if you want ABS, Airbags & rear window wiper & defogger.
- If you don't want to any of these go for LXI.

Personally, I would go for a ZXI - i repent buying a VXI-ABS, instead of
the ZXI.

yzfrj · 10th February 2009, 14:41

I guess its luck of maybe its the way my dad drives and keeps her pampered. (nope he is not the type "I will not go beyond 60" , he drives fast but only if the road permits and takes much care on broken road sections)

Swift VDi July 2008, 10k Kms +

Till date no rattles.

Go for the VDi and ABS if you really want it.
I agree its added safety and all that, but I will do the braking and I do not want any computer doing it for me.

bhogalrajnish · 11th February 2009, 17:50

Well make complete sence to go for the ZXI as even if I add alloy wheels + stereo/Speekers + Remote locking it will set me back by minimum 25+10+5 = 40 K and the diffrence between Vxi+ABS and ZXI is 60 K and the car will have climate control+ airbags + Steering mounted audio control + better interiors + defogger + Rear Wiper + Tiltable steering etc.. Good deal for the rest 20-25 K. I started from Lxi around 4.3L but did not like the interior and features then thought of Vxi 4.6L good deal, thought of ABS for just 20K more and now going to Zxi 5.4L so over running the budget by 1.1L I still feel it will be worth the money as I will not have to go for after market alloy wheels + Remote locking etc.Well looks like i am going to get the ZXI I will wait for some more time like a month and pay off the extra 60K cash and leave the loan amount low.

Off Topic: When I am shooting 5.5L what other options do I have with the same budget ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by carboy

Swift choice between the versions is pretty simple.

In my opinion, there are 3 choices - LXI, VXI-ABS & ZXI.
- No point in going for just VXI - you can instead get the LXI & get everything else in the VXI aftermarket at a cheaper rate.
- Go for VXI-ABS if you want ABS.
- Go for ZXI if you want ABS, Airbags & rear window wiper & defogger.
- If you don't want to any of these go for LXI.

Personally, I would go for a ZXI - i repent buying a VXI-ABS, instead of
the ZXI.

greenhorn · 11th February 2009, 17:52

the L*I series dont have a tacho. You'll miss that a lot

esteem_lover · 11th February 2009, 17:59

85k for a fully abused non AC 2001 esteem is a good price. Maruti generally gives a little bit above the local dealer.

Fountainheader · 11th February 2009, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhogalrajnish

Off Topic: When I am shooting 5.5L what other options do I have with the same budget ?

At this budget you'll get the base versions of the i20 and Fabia. The top end Asta version of the i10.

And a few entry level sedans too - Logan, CS, Ikon etc etc.

I did some research before buying the ZXi. And if you can afford it, there is no better petrol car at that price segment. And plus the rear wiper will make sure there is some exclusivity in Indian roads

9th February 2009, 16:09	#1
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 215 Thanked: 67 Times	Buying Swift in exchange of Esteem I have a 2001 Esteem VX in not so good condition- The Ac dose not work and there are rattles here and there. I am planning to buy a new swift Vxi with ABS here is the deal that I am getting: Esteem 2001 2nd owner valued at Rs - 85000 Swift Vxi with ABS 481000 ----------- Exchange Bonus 10000 Corporate discount 10000 ------------ Remaining Amount 376000 ------------ Cash Payment 125000 -- Planing to pay cash Finance (SBI @ 12 %) 251000 -- EMI 3 Years around 9000 PM. Questions: > Looks like a fair deal to me should I go for it or try and sell the Esteem outside though one of the local car dealer offered the same deal around 90K for the esteem ? > Swift Vxi or Vxi +ABS (20K Difference) I mostly drive in the city(Gurgaon) + occasional highway trips, do I really need ABS ? > Should I go for after market alloy wheels or buy the Zxi wheels for 22K + Bigger tyres( Will loose some money on the wheels from Vxi if bought from the dealer). Are the standard wheels good enough ? >Not sure of the color short listing Grey or white (dont like to be the center of attention). Rajnish Last edited by bhogalrajnish : 9th February 2009 at 16:16. Reason: HTML
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9th February 2009, 16:24	#2
ASHISHPALLOD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: MH42 Posts: 2,006 Thanked: 334 Times	man, you are getting very good price for your esteem. last month, my friend got 2003 esteem for 85k.
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9th February 2009, 17:03	#5
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	Rattles on Swift can be fixed with a help of a good mechanic in MASS. I have fixed mine long back and has not given any issues henceforth. Even if there are minor rattles surfacing later the same can be fixed very easily by MASS. I didn't find that an issue at all.
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10th February 2009, 14:26	#9
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	If not Swift ZXI go for VXI+ABS. ABS is a must. go for it. I tried getting a VDI+ABS during launch and Maruti didn't promise me delivery for 4-6 months. Hence had to go for non ABS version. I still repent it. ABS helps more in city driving than in highway. Urgent breaking conditions come up more often in city driving than in highways.
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10th February 2009, 14:41	#11
yzfrj BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: who cares Posts: 787 Thanked: 142 Times	I guess its luck of maybe its the way my dad drives and keeps her pampered. (nope he is not the type "I will not go beyond 60" , he drives fast but only if the road permits and takes much care on broken road sections) Swift VDi July 2008, 10k Kms + Till date no rattles. Go for the VDi and ABS if you really want it. I agree its added safety and all that, but I will do the braking and I do not want any computer doing it for me.
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11th February 2009, 17:52	#13
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	the L*I series dont have a tacho. You'll miss that a lot
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11th February 2009, 17:59	#14
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	85k for a fully abused non AC 2001 esteem is a good price. Maruti generally gives a little bit above the local dealer.
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