2nd Hatch : Which Diesel?

NFS2024 · 3rd September 2009, 11:46

Dear All - Need advice for buying a 2nd hatch (diesel)for myself. I already own an i10 and planning to give it to better half for occassional city round abouts and buy myself a diesel hatch. My monthly running has increased to atleast 1500kms. My budget is 6.5 lacs max. including accessories.

My mind is contemplating between Swift and Punto diesel (have test driven both multiple times). Do not like Ritz (did a TD), Indica Vista, Palio, Getz. Others are out of budget. My considerations are below

a. Good FE, hassle free driving

b. Good re-sale value - this just in case i need to relocate based on work (I travel on short frequent trips, typically 1 week).

c. *** peace of mind - important as i do not want to make multiple trips to the SS for mundane things every weekend. Just do not have the time for it, as much as i love driving.

1. Swift: I have no complaints having test driven multiple times and read the ownership reports on t-bhp . The only problem being a 1 month waiting period for vdi and 3 months for vdi+abs (even now???).

2. Punto: Love the looks, ride and handling. But its a bit sluggish to drive in city. Also I will definitely have a BIG problem parking in my apartment day in day out with the big turning radius . Have checked this during TD and this is a big turn off for me

Am confused, any pointers in this regard will be helpful. Does it still make sense to buy Swift?

SamtheLeo · 3rd September 2009, 11:50

GP Emotion Pack, any day, We chose it over swift & dont regret a bit.

Details about GP have been already posted in so many posts!!!

amit · 3rd September 2009, 11:58

From what you have mentioned, you have no option but to go for the Swift. Do note that Swift will be upgraded to BS IV norms soon so it's better to wait till then. These BS IV norms will impact performance and NVH levels too as per ACI.

KITE RUNNER · 3rd September 2009, 12:02

Swift Vdi + ABS will be the ideal choice - FE, good resale value, better service, low maintenance costs.

gods-envy · 3rd September 2009, 12:04

Even though I have a GP, keeping your requirements, I would suggest you go for a Swift Diesel.

rm_arjuna · 3rd September 2009, 12:15

Swift D wud be ideal , since it is tried & tested + fun to drive element , maybe you can also look at Indica Vista because it is spacious, same reliable engine as swift .

NFS2024 · 3rd September 2009, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamtheLeo

GP Emotion Pack, any day, We chose it over swift & dont regret a bit.

Details about GP have been already posted in so many posts!!!

While i agree with you, the price for emotion pack is higher and am also worried about the resale value.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit

From what you have mentioned, you have no option but to go for the Swift. Do note that Swift will be upgraded to BS IV norms soon so it's better to wait till then. These BS IV norms will impact performance and NVH levels too as per ACI.

Do you know by when this will happen? is there an upgraded swift coming anytime soon complying to BSIV norms?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KITE RUNNER

Swift Vdi + ABS will be the ideal choice - FE, good resale value, better service, low maintenance costs.

Am not willing to wait for 3 months as we already have a problem sharing the car, hence if at all i buy swift, it will be the Vdi version.

marlinspike · 3rd September 2009, 12:28

With the choices that you have mentioned you get one or the other feature on your wish list and both are a compromise in any case.Swift in for a change and punto has issues parking daily and all loose ends in A.S.S still not tied up, resale wont add up unless A.S.S is fixed completely and then some.

Stretch a bit and get the i20 CRDI.
You get everything you ask for and a fresh spacious car with fit and finish thats top notch.
Only negative would be its handling but thats a small one compared to the value it presents overall.

coolclouds · 3rd September 2009, 12:37

Swift VDi will be good option budget wise and resale value wise.

cooldude1988765 · 3rd September 2009, 12:59

Swift vdi or i20 magna with abs.

vnabhi · 3rd September 2009, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlinspike

Stretch a bit and get the i20 CRDI.
You get everything you ask for and a fresh spacious car with fit and finish thats top notch.
Only negative would be its handling but thats a small one compared to the value it presents overall.

+1 to that. However even the i20 has a waiting period of 1 month---it is so in Hyderabad. It costs 7.7 on road for the 2 airbag version.

NFS2024 · 3rd September 2009, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by marlinspike

With the choices that you have mentioned you get one or the other feature on your wish list and both are a compromise in any case.Swift in for a change and punto has issues parking daily and all loose ends in A.S.S still not tied up, resale wont add up unless A.S.S is fixed completely and then some.

Stretch a bit and get the i20 CRDI.
You get everything you ask for and a fresh spacious car with fit and finish thats top notch.
Only negative would be its handling but thats a small one compared to the value it presents overall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

Swift vdi or i20 magna with abs.

Have ruled out i20 crdi purely from a price point as i cannot stretch anymore. I will only have must have accessories to limit the costs.

Gilead · 3rd September 2009, 13:47

NFS, it is obvious the Swift D only car that would suit your requirements, especially for points b and c. Point 'a' should be more or less equal for both cars.

SamtheLeo · 3rd September 2009, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFS2024

While i agree with you, the price for emotion pack is higher and am also worried about the resale value.

Dear,

GP Emotion Pack is 6.45 on road in Gurgaon.

Next *** has been good & have gone through first service experience. Also as soon as Swift get BS IV the ride may not remain as Peppy as now.
So only issue which i can see is Resale, but in turn you get a lot better unit to drive,

Parm · 3rd September 2009, 19:57

from the two choices you have mentioned its a very easy choice!

SWIFT Diesel full option!

IF you can expand your options and stretch your budget and go for a bigger and better option of i20 diesel 1.4.

Hyundai has a better A.S.S. than Maruti and FIAT!

3rd September 2009, 11:46	#1
NFS2024 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 840 Thanked: 444 Times	2nd Hatch : Which Diesel? Dear All - Need advice for buying a 2nd hatch (diesel)for myself. I already own an i10 and planning to give it to better half for occassional city round abouts and buy myself a diesel hatch. My monthly running has increased to atleast 1500kms. My budget is 6.5 lacs max. including accessories. My mind is contemplating between Swift and Punto diesel (have test driven both multiple times). Do not like Ritz (did a TD), Indica Vista, Palio, Getz. Others are out of budget. My considerations are below a. Good FE, hassle free driving b. Good re-sale value - this just in case i need to relocate based on work (I travel on short frequent trips, typically 1 week). c. * peace of mind** - important as i do not want to make multiple trips to the SS for mundane things every weekend. Just do not have the time for it, as much as i love driving. 1. Swift: I have no complaints having test driven multiple times and read the ownership reports on t-bhp . The only problem being a 1 month waiting period for vdi and 3 months for vdi+abs (even now???). 2. Punto: Love the looks, ride and handling. But its a bit sluggish to drive in city. Also I will definitely have a BIG problem parking in my apartment day in day out with the big turning radius . Have checked this during TD and this is a big turn off for me Am confused, any pointers in this regard will be helpful. Does it still make sense to buy Swift?
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3rd September 2009, 11:50	#2
SamtheLeo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 451 Thanked: 26 Times	GP Emotion Pack, any day, We chose it over swift & dont regret a bit. Details about GP have been already posted in so many posts!!!
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3rd September 2009, 11:58	#3
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	From what you have mentioned, you have no option but to go for the Swift. Do note that Swift will be upgraded to BS IV norms soon so it's better to wait till then. These BS IV norms will impact performance and NVH levels too as per ACI.
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3rd September 2009, 12:02	#4
KITE RUNNER BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kochi Posts: 101 Thanked: 7 Times	Swift Vdi + ABS will be the ideal choice - FE, good resale value, better service, low maintenance costs.
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3rd September 2009, 12:04	#5
gods-envy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 474 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	Even though I have a GP, keeping your requirements, I would suggest you go for a Swift Diesel.
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3rd September 2009, 12:15	#6
rm_arjuna BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 468 Thanked: 149 Times	Swift D wud be ideal , since it is tried & tested + fun to drive element , maybe you can also look at Indica Vista because it is spacious, same reliable engine as swift .
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3rd September 2009, 12:28	#8
marlinspike BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 193 Thanked: 3 Times	With the choices that you have mentioned you get one or the other feature on your wish list and both are a compromise in any case.Swift in for a change and punto has issues parking daily and all loose ends in A.S.S still not tied up, resale wont add up unless A.S.S is fixed completely and then some. Stretch a bit and get the i20 CRDI. You get everything you ask for and a fresh spacious car with fit and finish thats top notch. Only negative would be its handling but thats a small one compared to the value it presents overall.
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3rd September 2009, 12:37	#9
coolclouds Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Garden City Posts: 1,798 Thanked: 519 Times	Swift VDi will be good option budget wise and resale value wise.
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3rd September 2009, 12:59	#10
cooldude1988765 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,042 Thanked: 196 Times	Swift vdi or i20 magna with abs.
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3rd September 2009, 13:47	#13
Gilead Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,142 Thanked: 60 Times	NFS, it is obvious the Swift D only car that would suit your requirements, especially for points b and c. Point 'a' should be more or less equal for both cars.
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3rd September 2009, 19:57	#15
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	from the two choices you have mentioned its a very easy choice! SWIFT Diesel full option! IF you can expand your options and stretch your budget and go for a bigger and better option of i20 diesel 1.4. Hyundai has a better A.S.S. than Maruti and FIAT!
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