Need help in buying Fusion+

throttleman · 8th April 2010, 23:26

Hi All, I've been looking for a big hatchback and always had a liking for fusion. Now I've come across a Fusion+ with ABS which is a 2005 model and has run 32K. Owner is quoting 3.6L and non-negotiable.
Is it a fair price? I looked around a bit and felt it is quite steep.

Please help with your responses. Thanks a ton.

shantyrocks · 9th April 2010, 00:21

buddy..3.6 is way too much
Negotiate and get the price down to atleast 3 lacs

aargee · 9th April 2010, 08:15

Shanty is right. Check out a similar thread where this is being discussed already.

Mustang.101 · 9th April 2010, 08:27

Yea, The price is too high & this is a petrol model so price should be below 3 lacs for this.

throttleman · 9th April 2010, 08:54

Morning All.
Mustang, aargee - thanks. 3L seems fair. For the love of fusion, may be I could stretch to 3.2L

Quote:

Originally Posted by shantyrocks

buddy..3.6 is way too much
Negotiate and get the price down to atleast 3 lacs

Owner says his wife drives it and sounds like not at all open to negotiations. Should I let it go and look elsewhere?

aargee · 9th April 2010, 09:05

@Throttle man - Let me tell you my thoughts, assuming it could help you little. I love Ford Fusion, the small SUV is affordable, has looks good, has decent speed, all the more, its available in diesel variant too. Now, when it comes to A.S.S, not sure how Ford performs in Chennai, but the model is no longer available & I'm not sure on the availability of spares. Being a perefectionist, I don't like let things go on, if found loose hanging, I need to fix it & if the parts are not available, then I go mad. I think small SUV is a good market that still needs to catch up & we're not ready for that in India. Once it booms, we might get some better looking models, so I'm waiting until then.

rm_arjuna · 9th April 2010, 09:06

look around you should definetly get better deals ,however good fusions are hard to come by since not many sellers. I was also looking one for myself In hyd have come across 2 fusions TDCi oct/sep'09 with 3k & 5 k for 4.25l .dropped since the dealer was asking 1k for just showing the car for inspection as registration charges which i thought was unfair .

throttleman · 9th April 2010, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by aargee

when it comes to A.S.S, not sure how Ford performs in Chennai, but the model is no longer available & I'm not sure on the availability of spares. Being a perfectionist, I don't like let things go on, if found loose hanging, I need to fix it & if the parts are not available, then I go mad.

Agree with your thoughts. And, going mad happens to me as well when orderliness is not there or things don't happen as expected - like parts that are unavailable!
Now, coming to spares for Fusion - is the situation really bad? I own a Zen and no problems there. Got to agree Maruti can't be compared to Ford though.
Love for a car comes in the way of practicality

aargee · 9th April 2010, 09:24

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Originally Posted by throttleman

Love for a car comes in the way of practicality

Very much true; I love Sierra too, but if I think right out of brains, should I go for it? That would be ridiculous unless I'm filthy rich. I'm not trying to change your mind, but try to get ready mentally for such issues, that's what I'm trying to convey. Availability of parts, I'm not sure, probably some owners can confirm. But let me tell you a real time example. I own a WagonR 2005 VXi & if I'd lost one of the wheel cap by mistake, I'm done. I don't get the old model wheel cap unless I wait for a week, but the newer ones - always in stock. So the point I'm trying to convey is, the older the model, little difficult in maintainence.

Mustang.101 · 9th April 2010, 09:27

Fusion situation is not that bad as it shares a lot of parts with the fiesta, however some parts may take a maximum of 1 week to be delivered if the dealers dont have it in stock.

Btw - did you know that all parts of ford escort are also still available.

benzinblut · 9th April 2010, 10:09

I think you are talking about the ford fusion thats listed on carwale in your city.
I checked for ford fusions in mumbai. i came across two ford fusion + (no abs). Their asking price and carwale evaluation are given below:
1) Feb'05: 35,000 km; Dealer asking 3.25L; CW evaluation: 2.7L-2.27L (Excellent-Fair)
2) Apr'05: 35,000 km; Dealer asking 3.00; CW evaluation: 2.77L-2.34L (Excellent-Fair).

Now i know that you are looking for fusion + ABS. But the above can be used as an indicator. Also, the above prices can be negotiated further.
Ford fusion is a good car, but like some other good cars, it doesnt have a good resale value.
Keeping all the above in mind, i feel that 3.0L (or lower if possible) would be a decent price for this car in your city.
At the same time i suggest that you think over it but listen to your heart.

PS: if its really the car that is seen in carwale then i wish to inform you that the website provided guidelines to sell your car and they advice to keep a margin for negotiation (after all we are all indians)

nick17s · 9th April 2010, 10:13

@throttle, a tbhp member a_4_attitude is selling off his fusion, if you okay with Delhi registration check out the market place column, his is the 2006 model white fusion.Please check and confirm, max to max pay 3.25 for a 2006 fusion. (its a petrol version, but still cross check)

throttleman · 9th April 2010, 17:47

@Mustang: You gave me some confidence there. Thanks. I didn't know that. Wonder why Azim Premji stopped using it then

@benzinblut: Your analysis too gives a better picture. Thanks. I thought dealers quote higher but in this case owner might be finding it difficult to accept the fact that his car has high depreciation!

@nick17s: Thanks but am looking for KA reg.

@aargee: I've mentally accepted maintenance part :-) I've learnt from my cousin who owns a palio!

joshguy · 10th April 2010, 12:39

throttleman

3.5 L is too high ,2.2 to 2.6 is fair price.

I too was on a look out for fusion for about 2 months in chennai before deciding on new swift VDI.

i could not find a car in correct price or the car was in bad shape.

The problem with every car which even you will find is rattling dashboard and broken cover on the top of dash.

ampere · 10th April 2010, 14:30

I agree with Mustang's views. Many of Fusions parts are shared with Fiesta and hence its NOT that big a problem.

But yes the only issue is that Ford is phasing it out and that can be a problem, as genuine fusion will then be difficult to obtain.

8th April 2010, 23:26	#1
throttleman BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore/Bosch Posts: 53 Thanked: Once	Need help in buying Fusion+ Hi All, I've been looking for a big hatchback and always had a liking for fusion. Now I've come across a Fusion+ with ABS which is a 2005 model and has run 32K. Owner is quoting 3.6L and non-negotiable. Is it a fair price? I looked around a bit and felt it is quite steep. Please help with your responses. Thanks a ton.
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9th April 2010, 00:21	#2
shantyrocks BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: thane Posts: 741 Thanked: 5 Times	buddy..3.6 is way too much Negotiate and get the price down to atleast 3 lacs
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9th April 2010, 08:15	#3
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,643 Times	Shanty is right. Check out a similar thread where this is being discussed already.
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9th April 2010, 08:27	#4
Mustang.101 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,316 Thanked: 233 Times View My Garage	Yea, The price is too high & this is a petrol model so price should be below 3 lacs for this.
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9th April 2010, 09:05	#6
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,236 Thanked: 9,643 Times	@Throttle man - Let me tell you my thoughts, assuming it could help you little. I love Ford Fusion, the small SUV is affordable, has looks good, has decent speed, all the more, its available in diesel variant too. Now, when it comes to A.S.S, not sure how Ford performs in Chennai, but the model is no longer available & I'm not sure on the availability of spares. Being a perefectionist, I don't like let things go on, if found loose hanging, I need to fix it & if the parts are not available, then I go mad. I think small SUV is a good market that still needs to catch up & we're not ready for that in India. Once it booms, we might get some better looking models, so I'm waiting until then.
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9th April 2010, 09:06	#7
rm_arjuna BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 468 Thanked: 149 Times	look around you should definetly get better deals ,however good fusions are hard to come by since not many sellers. I was also looking one for myself In hyd have come across 2 fusions TDCi oct/sep'09 with 3k & 5 k for 4.25l .dropped since the dealer was asking 1k for just showing the car for inspection as registration charges which i thought was unfair .
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9th April 2010, 09:27	#10
Mustang.101 BANNED Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,316 Thanked: 233 Times View My Garage	Fusion situation is not that bad as it shares a lot of parts with the fiesta, however some parts may take a maximum of 1 week to be delivered if the dealers dont have it in stock. Btw - did you know that all parts of ford escort are also still available.
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9th April 2010, 10:09	#11
benzinblut BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New Bombay Posts: 516 Thanked: 878 Times View My Garage	I think you are talking about the ford fusion thats listed on carwale in your city. I checked for ford fusions in mumbai. i came across two ford fusion + (no abs). Their asking price and carwale evaluation are given below: 1) Feb'05: 35,000 km; Dealer asking 3.25L; CW evaluation: 2.7L-2.27L (Excellent-Fair) 2) Apr'05: 35,000 km; Dealer asking 3.00; CW evaluation: 2.77L-2.34L (Excellent-Fair). Now i know that you are looking for fusion + ABS. But the above can be used as an indicator. Also, the above prices can be negotiated further. Ford fusion is a good car, but like some other good cars, it doesnt have a good resale value. Keeping all the above in mind, i feel that 3.0L (or lower if possible) would be a decent price for this car in your city. At the same time i suggest that you think over it but listen to your heart. PS: if its really the car that is seen in carwale then i wish to inform you that the website provided guidelines to sell your car and they advice to keep a margin for negotiation (after all we are all indians) Last edited by benzinblut : 9th April 2010 at 10:24. Reason: Missed out the dealier asking price in the earlier post
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9th April 2010, 10:13	#12
nick17s BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 536 Thanked: 103 Times View My Garage	@throttle, a tbhp member a_4_attitude is selling off his fusion, if you okay with Delhi registration check out the market place column, his is the 2006 model white fusion.Please check and confirm, max to max pay 3.25 for a 2006 fusion. (its a petrol version, but still cross check)
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9th April 2010, 17:47	#13
throttleman BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore/Bosch Posts: 53 Thanked: Once	@Mustang: You gave me some confidence there. Thanks. I didn't know that. Wonder why Azim Premji stopped using it then @benzinblut: Your analysis too gives a better picture. Thanks. I thought dealers quote higher but in this case owner might be finding it difficult to accept the fact that his car has high depreciation! @nick17s: Thanks but am looking for KA reg. @aargee: I've mentally accepted maintenance part :-) I've learnt from my cousin who owns a palio!
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10th April 2010, 12:39	#14
joshguy BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 109 Times	throttleman 3.5 L is too high ,2.2 to 2.6 is fair price. I too was on a look out for fusion for about 2 months in chennai before deciding on new swift VDI. i could not find a car in correct price or the car was in bad shape. The problem with every car which even you will find is rattling dashboard and broken cover on the top of dash.
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10th April 2010, 14:30	#15
ampere Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,952 Thanked: 12,943 Times View My Garage	I agree with Mustang's views. Many of Fusions parts are shared with Fiesta and hence its NOT that big a problem. But yes the only issue is that Ford is phasing it out and that can be a problem, as genuine fusion will then be difficult to obtain.
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