Honda sues TVS motors

devarshi84 · 11th February 2006, 06:11

http://www.business-standard.com/com...&autono=214724

Godfather · 11th February 2006, 06:26

I dont know what honda is thinking about here but Honda City is a car right?? and TVS is a bike.. then where does the problem come in here?? This makes no sence to me..

devarshi84 · 11th February 2006, 07:34

My thoughts exactly.

If this is a publicity stunt, Its bad publicity.

v1p3r · 11th February 2006, 09:18

No case. You can't copyright any word from any language, only the stylized script in which it is written. Which is why there are a million Sierras, Safaris, Cielos.

trinadha · 11th February 2006, 09:19

so now is ford gonna sue REnfield for thunderbird ,i never expected this from honda they keep doing all wrong things ,firstly that workers staging protest being stormed by police and now this, the company should not get into belabouring stuff ,silly complaints can spoil reputation

zenx · 11th February 2006, 09:47

I'd really like to find out who these guys are who've been misled to believe that TVS is a sub brand of Honda because of this ad referred to in the article. Ridiculous. My respect for Honda India is falling all the time. Yes the car still rocks, but so do others.

ksethuram · 11th February 2006, 12:44

Honda has already lost greater pie of market share to TVS and Bajaj. I dont think honda has a two wheeler by name city either. Doing this will only make them loose their reputation.
Thunderbird is a car model which ford has from 1955 but they havent gone for any action against enfield for using the same.
Toyota and GM had the same corsa brand... i am not sure whether it exists now.
Just check http://skooda.en.ec21.com/ where a company sells all bikes as honda copy in china....I do not know what honda has done for this?????

zaphod · 11th February 2006, 19:26

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No case. You can't copyright any word from any language, only the stylized script in which it is written. Which is why there are a million Sierras, Safaris, Cielos.

IIRC, Tata was unable to use the Sierra name in the UK as the Ford Sierra already existed (they called it the Gurkha - the Brighton town council even had a couple!)- I think you can use similar names if you are in a different line of business or for a different kind of product - I can't make any software called windows but I can surely open a pre-school called windows.

cheers

zaphod

bigman · 11th February 2006, 21:18

They must have forgot about the Rover City (I suppose with no UK Honda models using the City name it would not really matter.

The Mahindra Scorpio also uses a name that Ford used in the late 80s and 90s for its "luxury" Ford Scorpio models.

Neo. · 12th February 2006, 01:35

You can sue another comapny only if the brand has already been registered in India. So ford does not have a product named thunderbird in India and so can't sue enfield. On the contrary enfield can sue ford if ford decides to name any of its indian cars thunderbird.

trinadha · 12th February 2006, 09:24

this means that kinetic used to have safari as luna can it sue tata for using safari as its brand name ..lol!!!!! really funny

devarshi84 · 12th February 2006, 10:13

now I am really sure that Honda management got their brains shut.

zaphod · 12th February 2006, 20:05

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The Mahindra Scorpio also uses a name that Ford used in the late 80s and 90s for its "luxury" Ford Scorpio models.

The Scorpio was ertainly a luxury car but boy, was it ugly.....

It's right up ther with the Edsel...

/derailment over

zaphod

Mpower · 12th February 2006, 20:44

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Originally Posted by bigman

The Mahindra Scorpio also uses a name that Ford used in the late 80s and 90s for its "luxury" Ford Scorpio models.

The Scorpio name is only for the Indian market. In Europe its known as the Mahindra GOA.

Besides, M&M used to have a JV with Ford and so they probably OKed the name.

tsk1979 · 12th February 2006, 21:59

AFAIK generic names cant be trademarked. So if cannot have a trademark like "tree". "door".
So tomorry I make a new city, i.e. actual residential city, I cannot call it a city?

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Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore / Atlanta Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	I dont know what honda is thinking about here but Honda City is a car right?? and TVS is a bike.. then where does the problem come in here?? This makes no sence to me..
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devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	My thoughts exactly. If this is a publicity stunt, Its bad publicity.
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11th February 2006, 09:18	#4
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	No case. You can't copyright any word from any language, only the stylized script in which it is written. Which is why there are a million Sierras, Safaris, Cielos.
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11th February 2006, 09:19	#5
trinadha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 244 Thanked: 22 Times	so now is ford gonna sue REnfield for thunderbird ,i never expected this from honda they keep doing all wrong things ,firstly that workers staging protest being stormed by police and now this, the company should not get into belabouring stuff ,silly complaints can spoil reputation
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11th February 2006, 09:47	#6
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,161 Thanked: 158 Times View My Garage	I'd really like to find out who these guys are who've been misled to believe that TVS is a sub brand of Honda because of this ad referred to in the article. Ridiculous. My respect for Honda India is falling all the time. Yes the car still rocks, but so do others.
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11th February 2006, 12:44	#7
ksethuram BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chennai , London (now) Posts: 233 Thanked: Once	Honda has already lost greater pie of market share to TVS and Bajaj. I dont think honda has a two wheeler by name city either. Doing this will only make them loose their reputation. Thunderbird is a car model which ford has from 1955 but they havent gone for any action against enfield for using the same. Toyota and GM had the same corsa brand... i am not sure whether it exists now. Just check http://skooda.en.ec21.com/ where a company sells all bikes as honda copy in china....I do not know what honda has done for this?????
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11th February 2006, 21:18	#9
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	They must have forgot about the Rover City (I suppose with no UK Honda models using the City name it would not really matter. The Mahindra Scorpio also uses a name that Ford used in the late 80s and 90s for its "luxury" Ford Scorpio models.
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12th February 2006, 01:35	#10
Neo. BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 51 Thanked: Once	You can sue another comapny only if the brand has already been registered in India. So ford does not have a product named thunderbird in India and so can't sue enfield. On the contrary enfield can sue ford if ford decides to name any of its indian cars thunderbird.
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12th February 2006, 09:24	#11
trinadha BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: HYDERABAD Posts: 244 Thanked: 22 Times	this means that kinetic used to have safari as luna can it sue tata for using safari as its brand name ..lol!!!!! really funny
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12th February 2006, 10:13	#12
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	now I am really sure that Honda management got their brains shut.
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12th February 2006, 21:59	#15
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	AFAIK generic names cant be trademarked. So if cannot have a trademark like "tree". "door". So tomorry I make a new city, i.e. actual residential city, I cannot call it a city?
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