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| ![]() Another Fiat thread - Time for some entertainment I believe! Quote:
The OP is asking about Fiat bringing in new models, which I strongly disagree with. Both the cars sold are competent cars, the only thing which is against them are brand and A.S.S. The existing Tata service centers are already crowded and adding another model will just add to the misery. Fiat is already trying to do something about the Brand by opening Caffes - agreed this alone isn't important but they are trying. Also the plans to open separate 3S points will definitely improve the A.S.S hopefully including the spares availability. | |
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1) The cars are reliable. Yes, I have had a wheel bearing failure within 13k kms, if you can call that unreliability. 2) After sales service of TATA is poor, but A.S.S. of FIAT is awesome. 3) Poor mileage? I am getting 14.5 kmpl in chock-a-block city traffic & 18 kmpl on highways in my 90hp Punto. And i dont really drive slowly or without A/C. 4) Not powerful... wrong. Not spirited... true. They are powerful but the weight & gearing dampens the performance. I feel why someone would hesitate from buying a FIAT would be because - 1) He does not know or is not interested in the capabilities & engineering finesse of the vehicle. 2) He is not sure of FIAT's future in India. 3) Rumours about lack of service support from the company. 4) Apprehensions about spare parts availability. 5) Brand image. 6) Projected to be a fuel guzzler. | |
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Fiat cars are not unreliable. Their availibility of parts is. Without this, car is as good as unreliable. Ask me. | |
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| ![]() I don't think it makes sense for Fiat to bring their entire range here to India, but Fiat could do with a hatch at a lower price level than the Punto. I hope they will being new Uno/Palio/Panda to India once they have opened their independent sales/service stations. The Punto/Linea also need an upgrade. All said and done, Punto is atleast one generation older than its direct competitors (i20, Swift, Polo etc) and it shows, especially in the interiors. Same case with Linea as well. My friend who was looking for a C-segment sedan chose Vento over the Linea - and a major reason was the interiors (design, not quality of materials). |
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| ![]() Year 2015 AD - I would have completed 1L+ Kms in my Linea and going strong. - Fiat will be having separate 3S Centres (Sales, Service and Spares). - T-BHP will be having 2000+ threads on Fiat discussing about the A.S.S., Reliability, the way ahead for Fiat - I will be munching popcorn and reading these threads to have a break from my hectic work. I am also good at making predictions ![]() |
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I now have to rely on aftermarket spares for my Palio whenever I am unable to source originals. | |
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When I placed an order for a FIAT part at the TATA's A.S.S., the part dint arrive. As soon as I contacted a FIAT official, the part arrived in two days. I know it does not make sense but what I am trying to imply is that FIAT in itself is trying to be good but it's tie up with TATA is not helping. So they day FIAT says TATA to TATA, I am hoping things will REALLY improve. Also read from the same thread that 2-3 weeks waiting for some parts is common in case of Maruti & Hyundai as well. My friend had to wait for two months to get parts for his Ritz after he had an accident. So... Last edited by raj_5004 : 29th February 2012 at 13:39. | |
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| ![]() With so many reasoning FIAT's failure, here's one of mine too summed up in this phrase - 'First Impression is the Last Impression'. Cases in point: Maruti Suzuki - the pioneer in Indian automobile industry and first 'Indian' manufacturer, offering truly modern VFM cars. It was sight seeing 800 DX zoom past Padminis and Ambassadors. Skoda - entered the market with built-to-last Octavia. Still sells good numbers, with most models not market leaders or biggest challengers to the best in segment Toyota - Qualis, the boxy people carrier was extremely reliable and offered decent luxury for that time, given Sumo was its main competitor. 'Quality ' the keyword for all Toyotas. Honda Siel - with the advent of City, sedans got a new meaning. Lancer was a stiff competition, but Honda, the brand kept ahead. Again a quality product with the Honda engine providing that edge. And more can follow. For Fiat, whatever the issues are, somehow, for a majority of consumers, they still stand unresolved over the decade and a half it has been here, in this stint. Fiat's 'impression' is that of a manufacturer with petty niggling issues, which probably has carried over with time. P.S - just a thought, not biased in favour or against Fiat. |
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As a FIAT vehicle user, is it your impression that TATA-FIAT dealers are lax in providing A.S.S of the desired quality to FIAT vehicle owners out of sheer lack of interest or is it deliberate? Regards | |
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TATAs anyways have a reputation of poor A.S.S., so how & why would they handle FIAT? | |
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