New Zen from MARUTI

ivor · 3rd May 2006, 17:23

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Originally Posted by tidzterdesign

Yes smart

i just can't get my eyes off its interior ITS SO AWESOME

Interior looks decent but doubt Maruti will keep it the same in India. However exterior looks terrible. Reminds me of the old Santro--in fact, looks much worse than the old Santro. But hey, perhaps others will like it!

nitrous · 3rd May 2006, 17:28

With the 800, alto, wagonR, Swift making 4 models in almost a single segment, it would be totally senseless/stupid to bring another 1 litre hatchback in the family.

I don't think Maruti and its chiefs are so DUMB!!

Jay · 3rd May 2006, 18:25

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Originally Posted by WhiteKnight

No I would bet on Ignis

http://www.globalsuzuki.com/automobile/ignis/index.html

What say?

hey this ones M13A 1328cc engine that delivers 61kW (83ps)....
but the topic is that a new zen with 1000cc engine is going to be launched..... so i dont know if its the Ignis...

and the interiors on this looks a little too expensive for a zen replacement.
an Automatic !!!??? see where the gear lever is...
too many doubts whether these cars are the one that'll be launched here.

Mpower · 3rd May 2006, 19:30

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Originally Posted by jango

a 2 door car intresting !!

The rear has a suicide door that opens like the old fiats!

lamborghini · 3rd May 2006, 23:17

Mpower,
I was going to point out the same thing.
Look at the placement of the front door handles and you will see it continuing to the rear door too.
BTW, the interiors look awesome but expect cheap quality.

WhiteKnight · 4th May 2006, 09:31

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Originally Posted by ghostrider4385

The Ignis looks like an alto with a ski carrier on top of it. I hope it's not the ignis. Personally, I don't like its shape.
If they come out with a new zen, I'm pretty sure it would have some sort of resemblence to our present zen (even the mutated zen (zen classic) had a faint resemblence to its original!).
So I doubt it could be the ignis. Unless it was interpreted wrong and what they meant was maruti is coming out with a replacement for the zen and not a new zen!
Godspeed. Alok.

It should be a replacement for Zen

I agree about the looks. But I don't think Suzuki would bring another Tall boy. Ignis has roughly the same shape as Zen.
One think that should worry Maruti is, any car introduced as replacement to Zen would eat heavily into Wagon-R's market share than That of Santro's.
The car mentioned by tidzterdesign looks more of a concept. Maruti would not try to introduce an all new car for India (cost!!). I bet that they would pick one from their Japanese protfolio

ghostrider4385 · 4th May 2006, 11:17

Agree with you on all counts whiteknight. But do you think they would bring a similar looking car into the market? Consumers arent stupid not to see the stark resemblance of the ignis to the alto. Now that brings us back to our question... which car could it be (other than the ignis)?
But as already mentioned, I'm pretty sure it will be in the 1000 cc class, as, if a car is brought in as a replacement, it has to be in the same segment/class/cc as the zen, so as to effectively bridge the gap.

Godspeed.

Alok.

Beeman · 4th May 2006, 13:16

i wonder where would a new zen fit in their new scheme of things??

deepug · 4th May 2006, 13:25

Wagon - R already has a 1099 cc engine. So will the New Zen be with Wagon - R engine. Maruti will have major problem in postioning the Car without compromising Wagon-R sales.

Deepu

jesal · 4th May 2006, 14:47

those interiors should be in the swift right now. so damn cutem man.

ivor · 4th May 2006, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Beeman

i wonder where would a new zen fit in their new scheme of things??

Exactly! Especially if the new Zen is going to be a tallboy too! At least the old Zen was in the same cost bracket as a Wagon R and gave customers who didn't want a tallboy a choice.....

normally_crazy · 31st July 2006, 14:24

The new Zen = Old name + Getz like space + Esteem engine .... :-)

Now where exactly is this car going to fit in MUL's scheme of things and in the Indian Car Buyers psyche and the already crowded HATCHBACK segment - I wonder

Ram · 31st July 2006, 15:32

Well friends:

Some people do find
the Swift: too heavy and ugly,
the Alto: too stuffy and
the Wagon R: too boxy.

What if Maruti were to field a hot 1000 cc, lightweight, low slung, made-for-speed,
non Tall-boy hatchback based on the Suzuki Cappuccino with the Maruti promise of good after-sales support?

Who cares if they call it a “Zen” again?

esteem_lover · 1st August 2006, 15:40

hey dudes,
it is not the new zen.... zen is dead & buried...RIP...this is Suzuki's MR Wagon, a model that has been stopped in japan. the moulds, dies etc are imported to begin production of the car here in india. very convenient. and here are the pics...it is no way near the santro in looks...it is great.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35647.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35648.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35649.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35650.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35651.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35652.jpg

please, please do not compare with santro.

esteem_lover · 1st August 2006, 16:17

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Originally Posted by deepug

Wagon - R already has a 1099 cc engine. So will the New Zen be with Wagon - R engine. Maruti will have major problem in postioning the Car without compromising Wagon-R sales.

Deepu

u r right, it is coming with the wagon R engine, but with a more appealing shape

3rd May 2006, 17:28	#32
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	With the 800, alto, wagonR, Swift making 4 models in almost a single segment, it would be totally senseless/stupid to bring another 1 litre hatchback in the family. I don't think Maruti and its chiefs are so DUMB!!
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3rd May 2006, 23:17	#35
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,114 Thanked: 5,763 Times View My Garage	Mpower, I was going to point out the same thing. Look at the placement of the front door handles and you will see it continuing to the rear door too. BTW, the interiors look awesome but expect cheap quality.
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4th May 2006, 11:17	#37
ghostrider4385 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 389 Thanked: 12 Times	Agree with you on all counts whiteknight. But do you think they would bring a similar looking car into the market? Consumers arent stupid not to see the stark resemblance of the ignis to the alto. Now that brings us back to our question... which car could it be (other than the ignis)? But as already mentioned, I'm pretty sure it will be in the 1000 cc class, as, if a car is brought in as a replacement, it has to be in the same segment/class/cc as the zen, so as to effectively bridge the gap. Godspeed. Alok.
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4th May 2006, 13:16	#38
Beeman BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Treasure island Posts: 335 Thanked: 2 Times	i wonder where would a new zen fit in their new scheme of things??
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4th May 2006, 13:25	#39
deepug BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 92 Thanked: 26 Times	Wagon - R already has a 1099 cc engine. So will the New Zen be with Wagon - R engine. Maruti will have major problem in postioning the Car without compromising Wagon-R sales. Deepu
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4th May 2006, 14:47	#40
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	those interiors should be in the swift right now. so damn cutem man.
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31st July 2006, 14:24	#42
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	The new Zen = Old name + Getz like space + Esteem engine .... :-) Now where exactly is this car going to fit in MUL's scheme of things and in the Indian Car Buyers psyche and the already crowded HATCHBACK segment - I wonder
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31st July 2006, 15:32	#43
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 219 Times View My Garage	Wouldn't you love a Cappuccino-based hot hatch? Well friends: Some people do find the Swift: too heavy and ugly, the Alto: too stuffy and the Wagon R: too boxy. What if Maruti were to field a hot 1000 cc, lightweight, low slung, made-for-speed, non Tall-boy hatchback based on the Suzuki Cappuccino with the Maruti promise of good after-sales support? Who cares if they call it a “Zen” again?
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1st August 2006, 15:40	#44
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	hey dudes, it is not the new zen.... zen is dead & buried...RIP...this is Suzuki's MR Wagon, a model that has been stopped in japan. the moulds, dies etc are imported to begin production of the car here in india. very convenient. and here are the pics...it is no way near the santro in looks...it is great. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35647.jpg http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35648.jpg http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35649.jpg http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35650.jpg http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35651.jpg http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/iipcache/35652.jpg please, please do not compare with santro. Last edited by esteem_lover : 1st August 2006 at 15:45.
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