Fiat Panda to be launched as Tata Excel

four_tire · 2nd June 2006, 13:01

The Fiat's did not make good impression on the public in past. Now post tieup with TATAs it wont make any difference. The new partner will anyway displease the customer with their attitude.

Its only time that FIATs realize that in here, it is like that only. So its better FIAT give up its shyness and claim its royal market share all by themselves in coming future..

I wish those italians good luck and courage !!

nitinhegde · 2nd June 2006, 13:11

any snaps ?Please post

nitinhegde · 2nd June 2006, 13:12

any snaps ?Please post it
Mod's please delete the earlier post - seems to be some problem

mahadev_kc · 2nd June 2006, 14:24

If the alliance works out, it will be good for the customers only..
Hope to see it on road toooo sooooon.

I bought palio a month back, so guess Panda is smaller than Palio..

Cheers,
Gudda

himanshugoswami · 2nd June 2006, 14:27

This is good news indeed.

I just hope that TATA does not end up manufacturing the car- and that too to its standards!

Things are looking good for us Fiat owners!

DRC · 2nd June 2006, 14:39

TVS 50 XL, Surf excel, now Tata excel....

Serious: But this seems to be good as long as manufactured by Fiat and only marketed by Tata.

aseem · 2nd June 2006, 15:12

Its about time that they rebrand Palio and Petra as Tata Palio and Petra too, this would inspire confidence in prespective buyers.

vinu99@gmail.co · 2nd June 2006, 16:01

Smart move from Fiat, if this is true. It will sell more with a TATA logo on it [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/vinod.jos/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]!!!

roms · 2nd June 2006, 20:20

I actually saw a Tempo Excel truck on the road today.I dont like the word "panda" all that much myself,and probably wont buy one.I'd rather wait for the Grande Punto.But its italian,has good build quality,has been the european car of the year 2004.So it does have a good reputation,on paper atleast.Practically it would make sense to name it as TATA Panda or something (but not Excel),but changing the badge on any car robs it of its entity.Just the way GM must be loosing track of all the various names given to a GM car in different countries.Which sounds better,Subaru Forester or Chevrolet Forester?The optra is a Korean car with an australian/korean engine, given an american badge in India and a Japanese badge (suzuki) in the U.S.Its one confused car without any entity.But it sells and I guess thats what matters.So "FIAT Panda with mutijet" would be compromised for "TATA Excel with DICOR".

Rock 'n' rollz · 3rd June 2006, 22:56

On a lighter note shall we expect Microsoft to sue Fiat/Tata for using "Excel"?
Read: Honda sues TVS motors http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-motors-1.html

And yes if they don't sue, we shall look forward to Tata Access, Skoda Outlook.... etc etc

Minardi · 4th June 2006, 07:03

for all we know, it might be exell. but i don't see how ms controls access and outlook which are well established english words.

karizma_devil · 4th June 2006, 09:14

i dnt think it wud be much of a hit..looks kinda wagon R !!
cant beat maruti...

mxx · 4th June 2006, 10:33

guys, why is it that so many people here hate the TATA brand?
Ok, all the people in teambhp knows that FIAT makes good cars, and they have great brands like ferrari and alfa romeo. But thats not case with everone. The brand value of FIAT in India is not very high due to the marketing mistakes they made in the past. Whereas TATA has better brand value compared to fiat. And their marketing is great, which is evident by the high Indica sales figures.
Keeping these things in mind, I think if the news of FIAT with TATA badge is true, then it will be great for customers(great car), TATA(better brand value) and FIAT(better profit).
FIAT should enhance their brand by selling products on performance or premium (like grand punto) instead of selling value products which should be left to TATA.
And dont tell me you guys wont buy a good car just because it does not have an appealing name.

greatDrive · 5th June 2006, 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxx

FIAT should enhance their brand by selling products on performance or premium (like grand punto) instead of selling value products which should be left to TATA.

Fiat to drive in Punto

by 2008 ( times of India Bussiness times, 03 June 2006). Here is the article.

By Mansi Kapur/TNN

Mumbai: Italian car maker Fiat India is gearing up to bring its bestselling model, the Grande Punto

, to India by 2008. The company is currently in discussions with vendors to evaluate the cost structures for manufacturing the 1.3 litre premium hatchback — a huge success in the European market — from its Ranjangaon plant.
De Filippis Giovanni, managing director, Fiat India, said, “We are planning to launch two models in the B and C segments in the near future. We are also talking to our vendors to estimate the costs structures for these products. Although we have not finalised the location for making these models, Ranjangaon is a strong possibility.’’ Company officials had earlier stated that products based on a new platform would be manufactured from the Ranjangaon unit.

2nd June 2006, 13:01	#16
four_tire BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 212 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	The Fiat's did not make good impression on the public in past. Now post tieup with TATAs it wont make any difference. The new partner will anyway displease the customer with their attitude. Its only time that FIATs realize that in here, it is like that only. So its better FIAT give up its shyness and claim its royal market share all by themselves in coming future.. I wish those italians good luck and courage !!
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2nd June 2006, 13:11	#17
nitinhegde BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~ Posts: 242 Thanked: 91 Times	any snaps ?Please post
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2nd June 2006, 13:12	#18
nitinhegde BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~ Posts: 242 Thanked: 91 Times	snaps any snaps ?Please post it Mod's please delete the earlier post - seems to be some problem
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2nd June 2006, 14:24	#19
mahadev_kc BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 328 Thanked: 48 Times View My Garage	If the alliance works out, it will be good for the customers only.. Hope to see it on road toooo sooooon. I bought palio a month back, so guess Panda is smaller than Palio.. Cheers, Gudda
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2nd June 2006, 14:27	#20
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,326 Thanked: 2,693 Times	This is good news indeed. I just hope that TATA does not end up manufacturing the car- and that too to its standards! Things are looking good for us Fiat owners!
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2nd June 2006, 14:39	#21
DRC BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cockpit Posts: 907 Thanked: 67 Times View My Garage	TVS 50 XL, Surf excel, now Tata excel.... Serious: But this seems to be good as long as manufactured by Fiat and only marketed by Tata.
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2nd June 2006, 15:12	#22
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 443 Times	Its about time that they rebrand Palio and Petra as Tata Palio and Petra too, this would inspire confidence in prespective buyers.
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2nd June 2006, 16:01	#23
vinu99@gmail.co BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 109 Thanked: 39 Times	Smart move from Fiat, if this is true. It will sell more with a TATA logo on it [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/vinod.jos/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]!!!
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2nd June 2006, 20:20	#24
roms BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 641 Thanked: 27 Times	I actually saw a Tempo Excel truck on the road today.I dont like the word "panda" all that much myself,and probably wont buy one.I'd rather wait for the Grande Punto.But its italian,has good build quality,has been the european car of the year 2004.So it does have a good reputation,on paper atleast.Practically it would make sense to name it as TATA Panda or something (but not Excel),but changing the badge on any car robs it of its entity.Just the way GM must be loosing track of all the various names given to a GM car in different countries.Which sounds better,Subaru Forester or Chevrolet Forester?The optra is a Korean car with an australian/korean engine, given an american badge in India and a Japanese badge (suzuki) in the U.S.Its one confused car without any entity.But it sells and I guess thats what matters.So "FIAT Panda with mutijet" would be compromised for "TATA Excel with DICOR".
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3rd June 2006, 22:56	#25
Rock 'n' rollz BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 287 Thanked: 21 Times	On a lighter note shall we expect Microsoft to sue Fiat/Tata for using "Excel"? Read: Honda sues TVS motors http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...-motors-1.html And yes if they don't sue, we shall look forward to Tata Access, Skoda Outlook.... etc etc
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4th June 2006, 07:03	#26
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 413 Thanked: 15 Times	for all we know, it might be exell. but i don't see how ms controls access and outlook which are well established english words.
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4th June 2006, 09:14	#27
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	i dnt think it wud be much of a hit..looks kinda wagon R !! cant beat maruti...
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4th June 2006, 10:33	#28
mxx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 772 Thanked: 313 Times	guys, why is it that so many people here hate the TATA brand? Ok, all the people in teambhp knows that FIAT makes good cars, and they have great brands like ferrari and alfa romeo. But thats not case with everone. The brand value of FIAT in India is not very high due to the marketing mistakes they made in the past. Whereas TATA has better brand value compared to fiat. And their marketing is great, which is evident by the high Indica sales figures. Keeping these things in mind, I think if the news of FIAT with TATA badge is true, then it will be great for customers(great car), TATA(better brand value) and FIAT(better profit). FIAT should enhance their brand by selling products on performance or premium (like grand punto) instead of selling value products which should be left to TATA. And dont tell me you guys wont buy a good car just because it does not have an appealing name.
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