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Waiting for this engine to come in the Ignis replacing the 1.2liter one it has now. It should have the CVT auto too. That should be winning combination for me. Nice retro looks with a modern turbo petrol. Baleno though a good car i don't like its looks much.
A new video released by NEXA, explaining the boosterjet engine.
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AE does a shootout of superminis - VW 1.2 TSI, Baleno 1.0L (109 HP) and the latest KIA Rio 1.0 T-GDi 3.
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With 109bhp and 170Nm of torque on offer and a low kerbweight, the Baleno put on a strong show at the track. This was particularly true during our in-gear tests, where the Suzuki sprinted from 50-70mph in fifth in 9.2 seconds, which was 2.7 seconds and 1.7 seconds faster than the Kia and VW respectively. The result was the same during the 30-50mph increments, where the Suzuki pulled out a healthy advantage.
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Overall the Polo wins while Baleno comes second.
Second place: Suzuki Baleno Quote:
If you’re looking for the most bang for your buck, then the Baleno is hard to ignore. It’s not that stylish, while the interior design and materials leave a lot to be desired, but it’s very spacious and has a kit list that would make an executive saloon blush. It delivers the strongest performance and boasts agile handling
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Originally Posted by volkman10
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AE does a shootout of superminis - VW 1.2 TSI, Baleno 1.0L (109 HP) and the latest KIA Rio 1.0 T-GDi 3.
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Noteworthy though is that the TSI used in the comparison is a 90 BHP version, not the 105 BHP one.
Sorry for going OT - Any Team-BHP'ian here who has booked Baleno RS ?
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Originally Posted by Prodigy07
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Sorry for going OT - Any Team-BHP'ian here who has booked Baleno RS ?
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I've booked, but all depends on the equipment and pricing. Either the Car should be reasonably priced over the 1.2K series or Maruti should justify the feature list to price it at a premium.
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Originally Posted by shibujp
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It's too bad that the engine has been detuned. Bummer!! A 25NM torque makes a lot of difference in performance.
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The reason for de-tune may lie in the below link itself. I am not an engine engineer, so can't say if its the real reason.
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Autocar has an interesting read on the BoosterJet engine.
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Due to quality of fuel available in India, the Boosterjet has been detuned from 111hp in order to run on regular 91 octane. As a pre-emptive measure, Maruti has also mandated the use of an additive every 20,000km to tackle formation of excessive soot and carbon deposits in the manifold.
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Coming to weight, I am very much surprised with the quantum of increase. There will surely be weight increase for the above reasons, but 50kg is huge and that too when considering Maruti's push for light-weighting.
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However what I really cannot understand is the difference in weight? The regular Baleno is 900 odd kilos while the Baleno RS has a 50kg increase in weight.
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Originally Posted by arunphilip
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Turbocharger, intercooler, associated plumbing, slightly revised fuel assembly (due to direct injection) - all these contribute to the increased weight.... since its a 3-cylinder engine, it will also require either an unbalanced flywheel, or a balancer shaft to counteract the inherent vibrations of any 3-cylinder engine. And this adds in some more weight.
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Downsizing engines by putting turbos on them isn't done to save material/manufacturing costs, it is primarily done to meet regulations around emissions and fuel economy and associated tax breaks that come with smaller capacity engines.
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This has to be looked in conjunction with margin available in the existing Inertia Weight (IW) class. If the weight increase leads to up-shift in IW class, the fuel economy and benefit of taxes reduce significantly.
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Originally Posted by jaaz
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I've booked, but all depends on the equipment and pricing. Either the Car should be reasonably priced over the 1.2K series or Maruti should justify the feature list to price it at a premium.
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Has the dealer given you any idea about the on-road price?
Talked to a Nexa dealer in Chennai, the waiting period for the Baleno RS is 12 weeks according to him.
Take it FWIW.
The one reason I can think of a waiting period already for this model is because of the still high demand for the diesel and 1.2 engines models.
Same assembly line?
Unless the majority buying public has become performance oriented now.
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Originally Posted by Leoshashi
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Thanks for sharing the video link.clap:
What is also noteworthy is the manufacturer recommendation of an additive every 20,000 km to clean up the soot. Hope the service costs don't increase much.
Regards,
Shashi
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I am not sure how a fuel additive will clean up soot. This is just BS. Any additive will just get burnt in the combustion chamber.
In direct injection engines, the fuel is injected directly into the cylinder unlike port injected systems where the intake tract mixes the air-fuel into a combustible mixture.
It is here in the intake tract that carbon deposits in direct injection engines occur since there is no detergent from the fuel to clean the gunk as there is no fuel here at all. Also there is a massive difference in temperatures on the back side of the intake valves because of which there is further deposition of gunk. Also if the engine has EGR, then there will be more crap from there.
This unfortunately is a problem with DI turbo petrol engines of all makes and the only solution is manual cleaning of the intake tract.
Maruti is peddling snake oil here. The only solution other than extensive cleaning is to rev the engine hard once in a while so that whatever deposits exist get sucked into the combustion chamber and don't stick around in the intake.
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Originally Posted by reignofchaos
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I am not sure how a fuel additive will clean up soot. This is just BS. Any additive will just get burnt in the combustion chamber.
In direct injection engines, the fuel is injected directly into the cylinder unlike port injected systems where the intake tract mixes the air-fuel into a combustible mixture.
It is here in the intake tract that carbon deposits in direct injection engines occur since there is no detergent from the fuel to clean the gunk as there is no fuel here at all. Also there is a massive difference in temperatures on the back side of the intake valves because of which there is further deposition of gunk. Also if the engine has EGR, then there will be more crap from there.
This unfortunately is a problem with DI turbo petrol engines of all makes and the only solution is manual cleaning of the intake tract.
Maruti is peddling snake oil here. The only solution other than extensive cleaning is to rev the engine hard once in a while so that whatever deposits exist get sucked into the combustion chamber and don't stick around in the intake.
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Maybe its like the "close door" buttons on the elevators in the US - by law they don't do anything since it messes with access for disabled people etc, but the buttons are typically still there. It just makes people feel psychologically more comfortable and in control. So might be Maruti figures that it gives people some more peace of mind, and institutionalizes the scam that some SAs were pulling on new car owners, which is a bonus :D
Additives do help reduce engine friction and soot formation. I work for a company which extensively works on Turbo driven and high power small engines. I will admit that I have no idea about the innards of the Suzuki Boosterjet. But based on my experience, the additive ( if it's the compound I think it is), gets activated at high temperatures and clings to the moving parts. Eventually, yes, it gets burnt off but it does add service life. Now, knowing Suzuki working style, they must have benchmarked all other small capacity turbo engines, before zeroing in on current design. So, it is conceivable that they may be using the same additive compound.
Thank you to Team-BHP fan
Prashoy CL for sending these images in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing them with other enthusiasts!
The car has been spotted at a dealer stockyard in Calicut, Kerala.
These images offer a closer look at the production version Baleno RS.
The new grille design and the redesigned bumper with the lip:
Side skirt extension and the black alloy wheels. The design of the wheels is same as the outgoing Baleno:
New rear bumper with safety reflectors on either side and diffuser like shape at the bottom:
The RS badging on the right:
Same old interiors:
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