Team-BHP - The Mahindra Alturas G4. EDIT: Short reviews on page 30

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Originally Posted by shibujp (Post 4497108)

This is one Mahindra in which the interior looks better than the exteriors. From the pictures the interiors exude that feeling of quality and luxury. However the exteriors looks bland and in certain angles like the GLS.

Drive on,
Shibu.

That's because it has good genes.

The Mahindra Alturas G4. EDIT: Short reviews on page 30-new-mclass-1.jpg

Look familiar?

The interior took less of a beating when the donor ML/GL had the mandatory Ssangyong ugly stick thrashing.

Also tells that tooling cost for a new dash must be pretty high.

Cheers

Just penning down/summarizing few observations based on various posts and market reports:-

Alturas to have 2 variants - lower speced G2 variant with 2WD and fully speced G4 variant with AWD (mystery solved for the queer name tag, eh?).
Both variants to be powered by the same 2.2 liter, 187 Bhp/420 Nm engine

Only Auto transmission, no manual on offer.

Body on ladder frame SUV

Mercedes Benz sourced, 7-speed gearbox.

However, what's with the left hand drive orientation gear labelling and gate design though, Mahindra?
In the XUV 500, which has a Aisin (Japan) sourced AT box, the gate design is:-

And from what we have seen in the Alturas with the AT box sourced from Mercedes, the gate design is, again oriented for left hand drive:-

Didn't quite understand if that is a deliberate differentiation strategy for all AT line-ups in the Mahindra brand or a plain oversight?
(not mentioning the discontinued Scorpio AT)

Segment first, 9 airbags

Expected to be pitched against the Endy, Fortuner and outshine the likes of Tucson, Tiguan (most probably with the same price bracket).
India's answer for the burgeoning , with increasing high net worth income, extremely brand-conscious, finicky, demanding, global customer base?
Only a matter of time!

Separate or exclusive section in the existing retail outlets itself (no separate infrastructure like Nexa though), to cater to potential Alturas customers, with dedicated relationship managers (expect them to wear suits for differentiation :D)

Will be built at Chakan, Maharashtra with completely knocked down kits (CKD) brought over from South Korea

The punchline says - "Royalty will be redefined". Not a very clear messaging, in my view. "Royalty" of what? for what? etc.

Source, along with the current thread.

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Originally Posted by rovingeye (Post 4497096)

The UK reviews aren't very flattering btw. But, that could be because tastes differ from market to market. Found this bit quite funny (and sarcastic) :

"Does the Rexton appeal to the mainstream?

Should you buy one? For the road? For the family? No. Cheaper than the opposition it might be, but the seven-seat Kia Sorento is easily worth the premium you pay over the price of the Ssanger. However, it’s worth mentioning that Ssangyong has apparently earned a decent reputation in agricultural circles, and – in a mud-caked equation – it’s a different story."

Source - https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ssangyong/rexton

They weren't impressed simply for one reason : Pricing, guess the cars cheaper than the Rexton in UK? Land Rover Discovery (few variants), Honda CRV 2.0 Hybrid(181Bhp), even the loaded Volvo XC40 T4 is cheaper :Shockked:

One of the Australian review was much more forgiving, I don't think its as bad as they say, it is just compared with much more premium car thanks to its pricing! Comparing it to its Indian rivals like Isuzu, Fortuner will give it better outcome.

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Originally Posted by giri1.8 (Post 4497486)

The UK/Europe market doesnot prefer much of ladder frame bulky SUV's. It's more to do with tastes/preferences than the actual car.

Posting a screenshot of the whole information for easy reading.

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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQS)
The ALTURAS G4 will get launched on 24th November 2018 and will be available at dealership from 26th November 2018 onwards
The word ALTURAS literally means 'height' or 'pinnacle'. The ALTURAS G4 represents a gateway into luxury for those who have reached the pinnacle of success in their lives. Being our most luxurious offering, exquisitely designed and crafted, we believe that the ALTURAS G4 name aptly describes this product
You will be able to see the ALTURAS G4 at the Dealerships from 26th November 2018 onwards
Positioned in the high-end SUV segment, the ALTURAS G4 offers luxury and exclusivity in its Bold and Imposing Design and Luxurious Interiors. Thrilling performance and off-road capability, Unmatched Safety and Best in Class features further enhance the ALTURAS G4 proposition
The ALTURAS G4 would be available in the following variants:
2WD AT
4WD AT with additional features
All colors are available on both the variants
The price details of the vehicle will be available post the launch of the vehicle only. Positioned in the high end SUV segment, the ALTURAS G4 will compete with players that operate in the Rs.30+ Lakhs (Ex-Showroom) price range
The ALTURAS G4 will be available in 5 stunning colors - New Pearl White, Napoli Black, Lakeside Brown, Dsat Silver and Regal Blue
You can test drive the ALTURAS G4 at the nearest Mahindra Dealership from 26th November 2018 onwards
You will be able to see the vehicle from 26th November 2018 onwards at the Dealership however you will have the option to communicate any change in your choice of Variant/Color post launch of the vehicle latest by 5th Dec, 2018
The delivery and the waiting period will depend on the color and the variant you choose. The dealership will share an indicative time period with you post the launch of the vehicle on 26th November, 2018
The pre-booking amount is INR 50,000. The prices will be revealed at launch on 24th November, 2018
The delivery will depend on the availability of the color & variant you chose while booking; delivery will also be based on the booking order sequence and we will let you know indicative time period with you post the launch of the vehicle on 24th November, 2018
Sir/Madam, there is no cancellation fee
You have to confirm your booking - the variant & color before the 5th December 2018. In case you want to cancel - yes you can do the same before 5th Dec 2018 but in that case the priority will change based on availability of new variant & color you choose
There is no MT option available

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Originally Posted by rovingeye (Post 4497096)

The UK reviews aren't very flattering btw.

Source - https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ssangyong/rexton

Yeah not a lot of positive reviews for it. Obviously looking at the speculated price, this vehicle is not going to disrupt the market in any which ways.

It's hard to compete against likes of Ford Endeavour and Fortuner at this price point. If it was probably 10 Lakhs(OTR) cheaper than those, then maybe it would have had a chance.

Just the interiors alone is not enough for it to compete against those vehicle's (which have good interiors too btw).

The big question is the price. How much is the Alturas going to undercut the big boys T-Fort and the Endy. Actually the T-Fort is pretty much unshakable.

It may not seem fair to Mahindra, but if the Alturas does not sort of create a new segment for itself from the big 2, then it will struggle to stay relevant in the market. For someone who is spending 30 lakhs upwards a price difference of 2-4 lakhs do not matter, so the Alturas cannot be just cheaper by this kind of a range. It has be do something like what Jeep did with the compass. Literally create a new segment.

But im guessing its all too late to discuss and contemplate, since Mahindra have brought in only the auto variants which are fully loaded so expect the pricing to be in the same range as the big 2. Mahindra can only hope to draw customers with the standard AT and better equipment at a slightly lower price.