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Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar
(Post 5574706)
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So I received a challan for my Swift today. I was taking a right turn towards Airoli from the eastern and traffic was slow due to a pothole and the signal turned red as I was traversing the zebra crossing and decided to stop. Got this gift from the police. What should I have done in this case? Should I have jumped the line and tailed the last vehicle and crossed the line even when the signal was red? I have already paid the fine for now. |
Exact same incident. Exact same signal. I was fined for stopping over the zebra marking. I also was in the blind due to a truck.
I haven’t paid the fine yet but there was no way to contest as my ddpai dashcam wasn’t pairing with the iPhone.
A tale of at least one bogus challan!
There was a traffic jam, and vehicles were crawling in inches. There was a big trailer in front of us, so I really couldnt see anything. And this was the first time we were on this route, so didnt even know that there was a signal, there were no cross-roads or anything. The cops obviously knew this, and they were strategically stationed. We stopped, but so many people who were around us in the jam didnt (guess being a novice driver gets you in such situations). The cop was obviously looking for something, and when we didnt offer anything, and insisted that he book a challan, he booked a bogus one as well.
Here are the two that were booked:
MMVR 239/177 MVA - Jumping signal - 500
CMVR 139/177 MVA- Failed to Produce Documents Within 15 Days of Demand in Writing - 500
For the first one they didnt have any evidence. The evidence they attached was the pic of the car the cop took when he stopped us. How is that evidence of jumping the signal?!
And the 2nd one, what even is it? The incident took place on 12 June, we received the challan a couple of days later. Even if I ignore the fact that I did not receive any request for any document, it's brazen lying that they gave us a 15 day grace period for producing docs!
What was even funnier is that when we raised our grievance for an incorrect challan, our request was rejected within a couple of minutes (yes, minutes, might've been seconds!). Never thought a govt. department can be this prompt!
We had to travel out of town for a couple of weeks, so we paid the challan.
Questions:- Is there a chance that they would refund the challan, at least the 2nd one, if we followed up on emails etc.?
- And what are the medium/long term implications of having such challans, not the unpaid ones, but ones which have been settled?
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Originally Posted by svsantosh
(Post 5580012)
How to avoid? - There is a common signage i come across in Dubai that says 'Do not enter intersection if exit is not clear'. The car should not be caught standing or moving after white line when signal is Red. Straight big time fine and black points. Ideally to be safe and avoid fine one should brake in green if there is a jam ahead, cars behind will understand and be patient too. But in India, rules are fluid. |
I regularly follow the below procedure-
1. Do not enter intersection if exit is not clear. If there is a traffic jam ahead, wait before zebra crossing till the jam gets cleared instead of adding your share in the already jammed traffic.
2. Keep speed low if it has been green before you arrive at a signal without timer. Should be able to stop without getting rear ended by other vehicles if the signal turns red suddenly or if I am unsure of reaching the other part of the intersection before the green light goes off. This way I can stop before the zebra crossing if the green light goes off suddenly.
Sorry, I am not from Mumbai but still sharing my thoughts. I know how time is important to everyone and every minute counts. But still I feel one should be ready to stop by him/her self if need arises.
@SVSantosh Sir, I have quoted your post just for reference. I don't want to offend you.
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Originally Posted by arjab
(Post 4148010)
Kolkata Police has been issuing E-Challans since 2014 along with SMS alerts.
In case of violation, the e-challan is logged against the culprit vehicle's registration number. Owner can log into Kolkata Police website, check the Pending Challan list, pay online and get a printout of a e-receipt.
Been a boon for my Mum, as now she gets to catch the driver, red-handed and see through his lies of "...madam, maine toh kuchh nahi kiya".
After a couple of monthly deductions of the penalty amount from his salary, we possibly have the most law abiding driver ever! :uncontrol |
This Saturday I jumped a traffic Signal in Kolkata (Kolkata Traffic Police loves traffic signals) It was a new addition with next old signal just 50 meters ahead and another signal after 80 meters, I got confused and jumped the signal at crawl speed. There were two traffic Cops standing there (for more confused people like me?). I pulled over, cop stated I ran a red light and I agreed. He asked me to wait while he issued me a challan. I got a text and went on my merry way.
Next day I decided to pay the ticket, so I accessed E-challan website which I regularly check ever since automated challans are a thing, but it's not showing there. So, I decided to check the text I received, and it directed me to
https://kolkatatrafficpolice.net/ website.
Apparently, I had another prior UNPAID CITATION CASE from January of last year for which I never received any text message, and it is sent to court.
Could anyone guide me how to resolve this citation case pending at Alipore court?
Has anyone's license been blockled/suspended due to issuance of a challan in Mumbai? My license got blocked online on Parivahan portal for driving above the fixed speed limit (Driving at 70kmph when limit was 60kmph) however this was in Goa.
So wanted to check if the same is implemented in Mumbai? Jumping a red light also attracts license suspension I think not sure but this is the most committed offence in Mumbai.
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Originally Posted by oilmonkey
(Post 5674748)
My license got blocked online on Parivahan portal for driving above the fixed speed limit (Driving at 70kmph when limit was 60kmph) however this was in Goa. |
I am not sure if over-speeding has anything to do with DL. Speeding is a violation of the vehicle, DL is about the driver. Lots of people drive other family members' vehicles.
Please check if the Privahan portal if the block was a result of the speed violation.
Drive safe.
Yes, it is due to a speeding violation it is mentioned in the remarks. I was stopped by a SI while driving stating they checked my speed on speed gun and noted it was above limit. So while making the challan for speeding they added the car registration number and also the DL number.
Until a few weeks ago, I could check the challans issued over my car without any OTP validation.
But now the portal aks for an OTP. Unfortunately, the portal shows some different number linked to my vehicle. I have never changed my number on the portal and used to receive text messages regarding any fresh challans.
So it seems someone has linked their phone number to my vehicle. Also when I try linking my phone, the system sends an OTP to the currently linked number making me unable to do anything.
Has anyone faced such an issue?
Attached is the screenshot when I try to link my own number.
Got my first challan paid up today, after getting the dreadful Lok-Adalat sms. Ironically, it’s the only way I got to know that there was a pending challan, as no other message nor mail was ever received. Sigh.
Have the traffic violation from late Feb, I’m pretty sure it’s when I was turning into a right lane before being violently overtaken by a BEST bus from the second lane who cut me off since I was wearing the “L” sticker, and the cop instead took my cars photo as the signal had turned red by the time I was able to go after the bus went through. :thumbsdown
Anyway, a couple of months later. I’m a much bolder driver and, *knock on wood*, haven’t received any other challans ever since. In hindsight, I’ve now kept a reminder set to check for any challans every quarter on both my vehicles to avoid these Lok-Adalat notices.
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Originally Posted by Lord-Lannister
(Post 5798058)
Got my first challan paid up today, after getting the dreadful Lok-Adalat sms. Ironically, it’s the only way I got to know that there was a pending challan, as no other message nor mail was ever received. Sigh.
Have the traffic violation from late Feb, I’m pretty sure it’s when I was turning into a right lane before being violently overtaken by a BEST bus from the second lane who cut me off since I was wearing the “L” sticker, and the cop instead took my cars photo as the signal had turned red by the time I was able to go after the bus went through. :thumbsdown
Anyway, a couple of months later. I’m a much bolder driver and, *knock on wood*, haven’t received any other challans ever since. In hindsight, I’ve now kept a reminder set to check for any challans every quarter on both my vehicles to avoid these Lok-Adalat notices. |
Same here. Seems like they have started sending our Lok-Adalat notices now in bulk. My challan was from last year old with no intimation received earlier.
However, I got two notices and the 2nd one was incorrect. The notice has details of another vehicle (2 wheeler) with a different Series (FK in this case). But my vehicle (a 4 wheeler) is from EK Series.
So it seems like sending out SMS for Lok-Adalat notices is an isolated manual process and error prone at that :Frustrati
I got a notice for speeding in December 2023. I am shocked to have received a challan for the Sea Link as one is most aware to not overspeed. Also, if you are up by single digits or go 200 kmph, it don't matter you cough up 2000. Next time if one finds they have gone over the speed limit, might as well go full throttle to the max and enjoy the 2000 fine.
Have a strange problem related to the e-challan system. A car we recently purchased used has a "no parking" violation that shows in "Taken to Court" status. There is no amount listed against it and it's from over 2 years ago. Funnily enough, the previous owner has paid challans issued after that one.
I alerted the used car dealer about this issue and he said he would check. Meanwhile I got another challan, this time a No-entry fine of 500/- since the lane in which I reside has recently and rather arbitrarily been declared a one-way (after being a partial one-way in the opposite direction for a while, which nobody followed!) In any case, I was able to pay that one but noticed that the old challan was still unresolved.
Noticed one strange thing: the old owner's mobile number listed in full on the e-challan uploaded to the e-challan website (it's masked elsewhere). So just called him, pleasantly introduced myself and explained the issue. He told me he'd already been informed by the used-car dealer and has been wracking his brain on how to get this settled in the system since there is no payment link anywhere. I told him to check his SMSes for one from Lok Adalat which would give him a link to the PDF of his summons to court. He claimed that he hadn't received any such SMS but that he would check. We both promised we would find out ways to close this issue and ended our call!
So any ideas?
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Originally Posted by noopster
(Post 5871272)
Have a strange problem related to the e-challan system. A car we recently purchased used has a "no parking" violation that shows in "Taken to Court" status. There is no amount listed against it and it's from over 2 years ago. Funnily enough, the previous owner has paid challans issued after that one.
Noticed one strange thing: the old owner's mobile number listed in full on the e-challan uploaded to the e-challan website (it's masked elsewhere). So just called him, pleasantly introduced myself and explained the issue. He told me he'd already been informed by the used-car dealer and has been wracking his brain on how to get this settled in the system since there is no payment link anywhere. I told him to check his SMSes for one from Lok Adalat which would give him a link to the PDF of his summons to court. He claimed that he hadn't received any such SMS but that he would check. We both promised we would find out ways to close this issue and ended our call!
So any ideas? |
I had the same issue on my car, which I later sold and was able to transfer registration also.
No date, no option to pay the fine, nothing.
Been 2-3 years and still no update from current owner and to me.
Problem was also that the photo uploaded may have been taken by a non-police (i.e. a fellow citizen) and that was just a close up of my number plate with no photo showing that it was incorrectly/illegally parked so maybe they couldn't issue a proper challan?
I recently got hit with 2 challaans, within a span of two weeks when I had parked my car in the same general area. :unhappy
In both cases, the violation is for Sec 122/177 MVA, and the description states "Causing danger / obstructions or undue inconvenience to other users of public place or to the passengers by allowing the vehicle to be abandoned or to remain at rest on any public place".
I am not able to figure out what exactly this section is. I checked very thoroughly and I could not find any "No Parking" board on the entire stretch of this particular road. (For those in Mumbai, this is the road outside the boundary wall of Dominic Savio school, opposite Tolani college in Andheri East). Cars are parked regularly along the entire stretch of this road. As far as I could tell, the car was parked properly aligned with the other cars, near the footpath, so not jutting out on the road etc. I tried to check on Team-BHP as well, but could not find any specific reference to this section, beyond some old posts from 2005.
Any help on this would be highly appreciated! I have currently started using an auto-rickshaw to visit this area till I figure this out. rl:
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Originally Posted by lamborghini
(Post 5878662)
I had the same issue on my car, which I later sold and was able to transfer registration also.
No date, no option to pay the fine, nothing. |
Well, the new RC arrived today in our name so I'm assuming the problem is fixed! Weird thing is that the challan still shows outstanding in the echallan system. Hoping it won't cause issues going forward.
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Originally Posted by BertieWoosert
(Post 5878715)
I recently got hit with 2 challaans, within a span of two weeks when I had parked my car in the same general area. :unhappy
In both cases, the violation is for Sec 122/177 MVA, and the description states "Causing danger / obstructions or undue inconvenience to other users of public place or to the passengers by allowing the vehicle to be abandoned or to remain at rest on any public place".
I am not able to figure out what exactly this section is. |
If it helps, this was the same section under which my car was challaned and the previous owner swears it was the usual place he parks and so do many others!
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