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| ![]() Wholeheartedly agree! I cut my teeth on our knackered old Ford Ikon when I was 18. Suffice to say at that age I had my fair share of knocks driving, including the one that totalled the car. All that being said, I adored it. Felt like a right of passage, with it's dodgy HVAC, rattle prone interiors, suspension that had long given up the ghost, and absolute plethora of junk accumulated in the boot. But it felt mine and the steering and gearbox were a treat. Other things that worked in its favour was the fact that over the years the engine had got to the point, it really no longer had that josh the car was famous for anymore. Instead the power delivery curve was very linear and the slope of said power delivery curve was let's say quite flat. Which meant I got to grips with accelerating or planning overtakes and managing my gears rather well, with no untoward late power surges to scupper both my day and whatever unfortunate soul was in the impact path. So blackwasp I can't agree enough with you.
In fact to this day, whenever I return home, I'm happiest pootling about town in our simple old Santro Xing. I adore that thing and its mechanical simplicity and now I understand why my parents were so loathe to give away each of their first cars too (1988 M800 and 1990 Omni for mum and dad respectively). Funnily enough my cousin got an i10 Nios Asta spec as his first car earlier this year, something that my parents and I were aghast at initially. To all three of us it felt alien that your first car can be that nice, it's almost like it Has to be a beater car. And it Has to be cheap and/or second hand. |
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BHPian Join Date: May 2020 Location: New Delhi
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| ![]() When I read the opening post of this thread, I started shaking my head in disagreement. Then I read rest of the posts, and now I feel like the the odd man out. Nonetheless, here are my two cents: When I decided to purchase my first car, I didn't know how to drive. Like many BHPians here, everyone suggested me to buy a used Maruti 800 or something similar, and if at all I want to buy a new one then don't go beyond a Wagon R or Santro. None of these advices made sense to me ![]() So, I am more than happy with my decision. Afterall, I didn't buy a Ferrari for my first car ![]() |
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| ![]() I too learned to drive on the humble Maruti 800. Although I eagerly wanted to drive our Creta, my father and uncle told me to practice on the 800 before moving up. Me being me just wanted to drive regardless of the car so happily practiced on the 800 for a decent period of time. I was lucky enough to not dent it or run into any sort of dangerous situation. I'm glad that I practiced on the 800 and was able to develop my driving before moving on to bigger cars, I would be heart broken if there was even a small scratch on the Creta. Eventually, when I was allowed to drive the Creta it was a whole another world from the difference in power, dimension, and steering feel. Initially, the greater dimensions of the Creta did give me a bit of trouble on day 1 but I was able to easily get used to it the next day. Learning what to expect when moving to a larger car also made it easier for me when I got to drive bigger cars like the Innova for example. However, one car I struggled getting used to, despite driving it for a decent amount of time, was the last-gen Mahindra Thar. The one I was driving had larger and wider off-road wheels and I simply couldn't get used to its dimensions and had to be extra attentive on narrow roads. Fortunately, my father never let me drive the Thar in traffic or on busy roads. |
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BHPian Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Chennai
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| ![]() Agree on most points but small cars also tend to be unsafe and that is a problem for me. Definitely a small car with limited usage in the city for a newbie makes sense. As for myself I started with a M800, 1st gen Swift and now drive a Jetta. But this is also how the cars were upgraded in the family and it was not a car specifically bought with the purpose of being a first car. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Magic land
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| ![]() It is always good to climb the ladder as stated in the post. Begin from a humble ride and work your way into more powerful rides. It also helps one to appreciate the ride and much more about life. But, I don't think many households will allow the purchase of a used car for learning driving. It is fine if there exists a humble ride at home. Else it is always going to be a grand purchase within one's own financial limit. However for bikes it is always nice to begin from 150 cc or below and get a hold of the whole biking experience before graduating into the superbike league. |
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| ![]() Absolute gem of a thread! At the moment, I and my mom are learning to drive in a 2000 M800 4Speed. Being a 20 y/o car, I must admit that it's relatively niggle-free and suited for learners . Having been interested in cars ever since I saw them on the streets as a child, little to none theoretical introduction was needed to get me started on my quest of driving. The only things I needed to develop were spatial awareness of the vehicle and clutch control. The rest is all about practicing on all kinds of roads- big or small, empty or congested to develop the required muscle memory for all kinds of situation. We've planned on buying a cheap beater (under 1lakh) once training ends. My mom justifies the purchase as a medium to hone our skills and as a way of getting from point A to B (sharply contradicting with my requirement of a FTD car for an enthusiast). The following options are shortlisted : 1. MS Zen MPFI My choice as a sub 50k FTD vehicle (G10BB engine, 750kg kerb weight. What more? Finding one with valid documents is a hassle though ![]() 2. MS Swift Gen1 My choice (1.3 petrol, more premium than Zen) A bit over-budget as clean examples start from 1.2lakhs ![]() 3. Hyundai Santro Zip/Xing Mutual choice. Sub 40k (My only concerns are FE and how does it compare to the Zen) 4. MS WagonR Mom's choice. (She likes the tallboy ergonomics. I hate the 3cyl engine) The search is slowed down by the fact that AC and PS is mandatory as my mom needs a car with a light steering. We both still have around a month of training left and I gauge that's enough time to look for a decent example that suits our budget and needs. Looking forward to owning a beater. ![]() |
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Even if I go with any other option for my first car, I can easily laterally upgrade to a Swift any day as the looks have and will continue to age graciously. Plus they'll get more pocket-friendly with time ![]() | |
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Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Chicago, IL
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| ![]() As a youngster, I've been lucky to start my driving journey on a Hyundai Getz in India, because it was the smaller car in the garage, but the more premium one. While not the fastest, the 1.3 P was a brilliant engine with some amazing low-end torque. While it had no maintenance issues or niggles (thanks to the Hyundai reliability that is mostly absent today), it I learnt a lot by interacting with the manager & watching repairs in my FNG. Come 2019, I got a job and bought myself an used 2012 Ford Fusion in the USA. This has given me the whole journey mentioned in this thread. I've had very few niggles, a small mishap (not an accident), learnt to clean & wax my own car etc. Buying a used car is definitely comes with a few good lessons. I feel I'm ready to upgrade to a V6 before eventually jumping on to an BEV/HEV. ![]() Last edited by landcruiser123 : 1st December 2020 at 00:23. |
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BHPian Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Bangalore
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| ![]() Going through this thread, I see that most of us agree that learning on a basic new or a used beater if possible will make us better drivers in the long run. But it is still unclear as to whether one should learn in a small car or big car. People learnt on 800 or Sierra or Jeep appear to have become experts in the long run. So can we say that a used or basic car irrespective of size is good to choose? And yes, one needs to try on own for gaining skill. And yes, I love Zen even now. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Unlike yours truly, who faced with this decision over 10 years ago, bought a new car, my wife is wise beyond her years, and has already figured out what took me 10 years. The peace of mind you get from driving a beater, especially if you're learning to drive is priceless. Initially I was planning to get her to learn to drive in the US, but after coughing up 600usd for a 10 hour class, I realized that India would be much cheaper. And I told her that at that cost, I could do a full repaint of the car, and asked her to scratch away, because learning to drive in the US was that much more expensive. 1 year later she has only 2 scratches despite taking the car out once a week, and now that plans have shifted to going back to India, she's adamant about driving a beater, and does not want a new car at all ![]() |
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BHPian Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Bangalore
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| ![]() The points about repair and bodyshop expenses hold good for any car or for that matter any financial decision. It goes to the basic financial planning lesson (that Megan McArdle wrote in The Atlantic at that time) I learned during the 2008 economic crisis - you can indulge in a one time expense but always keep an eye on the recurring ones. A fat bonus check can go towards a down payment on your dream home or get you a BMW, but the EMI/repair expenses are going to come from your regular pay check. Remember that! My first car was a Baleno that was going out of production and I got steep discounts. But I must say I never felt good about every single repair/body work on it. Last edited by sramanat : 1st December 2020 at 09:42. Reason: add reference to my first car |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() I beg to differ. It really doesn't matter - I taught my wife to drive in my then 2L liter 120 bhp Cedia Sports. She had a license from a driving school but no practical experience. She drove pretty well from the get go and had no dinks, no damages and no issues. In fact she started appreciating what a good car is from that experience. The bonus is now she understands why I need a good car and isn't someone who judges a car by its back seat ride quality ![]() Last edited by reignofchaos : 1st December 2020 at 10:11. |
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| ![]() I learned driving on my friend's dad's ooold jeep with only 3 gears and without power steering. Both I and my friend were being taught by his dad who was a taxi driver. He especially taught us to drive on narrow roads, parking in tight spaces where you wouldn't think it can fit in. One thing is true, if you have managed to learn on it and drove it a couple of hundred KMs, you can drive a tank!! Only issue I had when I bought my first car, Alto, was with the accelerator. On the granddad jeep, I had to floor the pedal to move it and here it was feather light and had to adjust it! |
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BHPian Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Bangalore
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| ![]() Personally I would disagree with this point of view. Your learning period is going to be pretty short and in few months you are going to be a fairly competent driver. While on the other hand car ownership is a long time decision. Changing cars frequently involves transaction costs in terms of time and money so I would personally just buy best vehicle I can afford for next 10 years. In cities keeping extra beater car is difficult due to parking space problems. |
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