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Old 13th January 2021, 15:43   #1
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Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

Mahindra is believed to be working on a new turbo-petrol engine that will be part of the mStallion family.

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Rumours suggest that the 180 mStallion unit is expected to be introduced in the Thar sometime around mid-2021. While technical details about the new motor are not known, it is the same 2.0L 4-pot engine in a higher state of tune. Thanks to the more potent powerplant, the top speed of the Thar would increase from 150 km/h to 180 km/h.

At present, the Thar is available with a 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder mStallion petrol engine that produces 150 BHP and 320 Nm. The off-roader also comes with a 2.2-litre mHawk diesel that makes 130 BHP and 320 Nm. Both engines are available with either a 6-speed manual or a 6-speed automatic transmission.

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Old 13th January 2021, 15:48   #2
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

IMHO 150bhp for a Thar is more than sufficient, 180Bhp will be an overkill. Also the Thar at 120Kmph is just about stable on the highway anything over that is very risky!

Just my personal opinion^, more power can be helpful in off-road conditions but majority of the sales are from the diesel version and not the petrol.

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Old 13th January 2021, 16:11   #3
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

While this sounds way too spicy for the Thar - I believe the rumour could be true. We have been seeing test mules on the roads, specially the white and silver mentioned.

Could also more importantly be Mahindra's way of ensuring that the 180hp MStallion engines are user-tested on the low volume Thar than the all-important XUV 5OO.
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

This is excellent news! Just another reason to wait for mid-end of this year before buying one. Hopefully by then the waiting period will come down to a more swallowable 2-3 months tops.
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

How long will it take to stop from 180? I hope they provide powerful brakes as well as part of the upgrade!

If the additional power/torque comes at lower RPM's, then it would be welcomed by offroaders.

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Old 13th January 2021, 17:33   #6
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

I am guessing it will be 180 bhp? I think this is too much of a power for Petrol Thar, this variant is already a gas guzzler. Many users reported single digit fuel economy, I don't think this new engine will be any better with respect to fuel economy. This new engine maybe used in new XUV500 or Scorpio?

M&M should instead focus on the niggles reported by many customers like bonnet bend-gate and water leakage in HT versions.

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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

To be honest there is clear feedback from the current owners that the THAR is best driven on or below 100. I don’t see a real reason to upgrade THAR with this more powerful option. However this engine may find a place in the new 2021 XUV500 while the same THAR spec will make it to Bolero and others.
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Old 13th January 2021, 17:38   #8
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

I'm guessing the 2.0L engine has very bad FE and they want a clean image ASAP with the 1.8L
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

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Mahindra is believed to be working on a new turbo-petrol engine that will be part of the mStallion family.
Why exactly is Mahindra working on a new engine?

If I remember correctly, Mahindra had stated that this present m-Stallion 2.0 GDi engine was capable of producing upto 190 hp. So can't they just re-tune the ECU?
I believe an ECU remap would be more economical than developing a new engine.

Also, wouldn't the increased power figure result in even lower fuel economy? I understand that the present Thar petrol has a poor fuel economy, so what is the purpose of the increased power?

Knowledgeable members, please throw some light.

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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

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Could also more importantly be Mahindra's way of ensuring that the 180hp MStallion engines are user-tested on the low volume Thar than the all-important XUV 5OO.
Yep, agree with this.
Maybe they wanted to launch the new engine in their detuned stage to test stuff out. Helpfully the Thar's dynamics didn't demand more, wouldn't be the case if it was the XUV500.

Hence, 190bhp in the petrol became 150 and 160-180bhp in the diesel became 130bhp.

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I'm guessing the 2.0L engine has very bad FE and they want a clean image ASAP with the 1.8L
Ermm..guess the 180 is more to do with 180bhp, not 1800cc.
1.2l, 1.5l, 2.0l. These are the engine sizes for Mahindra's GDI petrols. They may change the output, but the basic displacement will be the above for the near future.


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Why exactly is Mahindra working on a new engine?

If I remember correctly, Mahindra had stated that this present m-Stallion 2.0 GDi engine was capable of producing upto 190 hp. So can't they just re-tune the ECU?
I believe an ECU remap would be more economical than developing a new engine.
I believe it is the existing engine.
Was detuned for the Thar. Now they are bringing the full intended power output.

1. The Thar has become more lifestyle now with the axing of base models. So more the power, merrier. And not as if the Thar petrol has stellar mileage.
2. The media drives where chances of bad publicity with toppling was avoided with conservative power output

Would rather have Mahindra give the full 160-180bhp in the diesel instead.

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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

My guess is this is just a new tune of the same mStallion 2.0 engine. There is no way they can develop a brand new engine that fast! Remember the nomenclature of the engines Mahindra has adopted is to use the horsepower rating at the end of the variant name (e.g. mHawk 130 or mStallion 150). We always knew a higher power version of mStallion was coming for the new XUV500 and the new Scorpio.

Though, I agree with most here that putting any more power to the Thar is downright dangerous!
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Old 13th January 2021, 19:01   #12
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

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Why exactly is Mahindra working on a new engine?
They could be targeting the new engine for export market Thars.

They could as well use higher bhp and torque producing engine on the long wheelbase versions that is in the works.
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

My hunch is 5-door Thar might get this engine with much more sorted dynamics. Mahindra might skip it for 3-door Thar.
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

Looks like the same 2.0L mStallion capable of producing upto 190hp and 380NM.

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Old 13th January 2021, 22:31   #15
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Re: Rumour: Mahindra Thar to get 180 mStallion Pro engine

I guess Mahindra's way of getting real world feedback on their engines. The car should be speed governed to 160 km/h (or lower) to prevent fools from killing themselves & others.
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