Swift to get M Series engine

karthik247 · 22nd May 2007, 23:26

They could launch the Swift Sport as a limited edition or sumtin like they did for the Zen. And now since all this car scene is building up they will have no probs in selling it.

BTW, wonder if they will sell the 1.6l engine alone

veyron1 · 23rd May 2007, 02:56

The swift sport is set for debut by late next year. And my sources suggest the M16- no VVT. 100 horses+ (at least that's what is under going trial currently). Price range- don't ask.

And about the Palio. The primary reason for it's failure was not just the pricing, but the brand as well. MUL could garner significant numbers for the Sport; given the right pricing...

v1p3r · 23rd May 2007, 03:43

I heard the VVT ones were undergoing testing and being sold at 7 lakhs or so.

Godfather · 23rd May 2007, 04:00

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

I heard the VVT ones were undergoing testing and being sold at 7 lakhs or so.

Where..any idea if this will ever make it to India??

Godfather

v1p3r · 23rd May 2007, 04:09

You'd be surprised at what has already made it to India.

supremoo · 2nd June 2007, 16:59

Does the six month waiting for swift DDiS still exist?

balaji_n29 · 3rd June 2007, 10:11

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Originally Posted by supremoo

Does the six month waiting for swift DDiS still exist?

Yes!!!!! Very much exists... The situation has actually worsened after the launch of SX4. Maruti is having serious issues with their plant capacity. They have made statements in the media that they have expanded the plant's capacity but no one is willing to trust them esp with the waiting periods for their top selling cars.

aseem · 3rd June 2007, 12:28

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Originally Posted by balaji_n29

Yes!!!!! Very much exists... The situation has actually worsened after the launch of SX4. Maruti is having serious issues with their plant capacity. They have made statements in the media that they have expanded the plant's capacity but no one is willing to trust them esp with the waiting periods for their top selling cars.

Waiting in Delhi is 3 months... I guess Maruti didnt expect Swift to do so well.... They cant keep up with demand.

hell_rider · 4th June 2007, 21:43

As a persistent critic of MUL w.r.t. Swift on account of their not offering the same engine on the Swift as in the rest of the world, I am very happy with this news.

Now will TATA please offer airbags / ABS as an option on the Indica, which they do offer in SA ??

Raja · 10th July 2007, 08:28

Any new news on release dates?

VBV · 10th July 2007, 13:30

I doubt if the car will have VVT. IMHO, they will share the engine with SX4 and SX4 does not have VVT. SX4 engine outside of India has VVT and here in India, it does not. So I'd expect the same.

Also, VVT will reduce mileage (albeit by a little) and I doubt Maruti will pick a feature that will reduce milease.

hrishig · 16th July 2007, 14:01

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Originally Posted by VBV

Also, VVT will reduce mileage (albeit by a little)

I thought it is supposed to increase milage + power.

Can you please throw more light on the milage part please?

sbasak · 16th July 2007, 18:09

From here
Automotive Fuel Economy Program Twenty-second Annual Report to Congress Calendar Year 1997
we find
"... Variable valve timing can improve fuel economy by lowering idle speeds, allowing engine downsizing and improving cycle efficiency..."

Another good point about M1?A engine is that they are chain cam driven instead of cam belt

VBV · 17th July 2007, 13:46

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Originally Posted by sbasak

From here
Automotive Fuel Economy Program Twenty-second Annual Report to Congress Calendar Year 1997
we find
"... Variable valve timing can improve fuel economy by lowering idle speeds, allowing engine downsizing and improving cycle efficiency..."

Another good point about M1?A engine is that they are chain cam driven instead of cam belt

Never thought that way, and you're right, even wikipedia mentions:
"Pressure to meet environmental goals and fuel efficiency standards is forcing car manufacturers to turn to VVT as a solution"
Variable valve timing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just went by the comparison of FEs from honda city (VTEC v/s non-Vtec)

I stand corrected.

VBV

srishiva · 17th July 2007, 15:51

Honda city VTEC is much powerful and hence..

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karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	They could launch the Swift Sport as a limited edition or sumtin like they did for the Zen. And now since all this car scene is building up they will have no probs in selling it. BTW, wonder if they will sell the 1.6l engine alone
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veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	The swift sport is set for debut by late next year. And my sources suggest the M16- no VVT. 100 horses+ (at least that's what is under going trial currently). Price range- don't ask. And about the Palio. The primary reason for it's failure was not just the pricing, but the brand as well. MUL could garner significant numbers for the Sport; given the right pricing...
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v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	I heard the VVT ones were undergoing testing and being sold at 7 lakhs or so.
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23rd May 2007, 04:09	#35
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	You'd be surprised at what has already made it to India.
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supremoo BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: wynad Posts: 59 Thanked: 5 Times	Does the six month waiting for swift DDiS still exist?
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hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	As a persistent critic of MUL w.r.t. Swift on account of their not offering the same engine on the Swift as in the rest of the world, I am very happy with this news. Now will TATA please offer airbags / ABS as an option on the Indica, which they do offer in SA ??
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10th July 2007, 08:28	#40
Raja BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 419 Thanked: 69 Times	Any new news on release dates?
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10th July 2007, 13:30	#41
VBV BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 227 Thanked: 6 Times	I doubt if the car will have VVT. IMHO, they will share the engine with SX4 and SX4 does not have VVT. SX4 engine outside of India has VVT and here in India, it does not. So I'd expect the same. Also, VVT will reduce mileage (albeit by a little) and I doubt Maruti will pick a feature that will reduce milease.
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16th July 2007, 18:09	#43
sbasak BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CCU-LTN Posts: 608 Thanked: 14 Times	From here Automotive Fuel Economy Program Twenty-second Annual Report to Congress Calendar Year 1997 we find "... Variable valve timing can improve fuel economy by lowering idle speeds, allowing engine downsizing and improving cycle efficiency..." Another good point about M1?A engine is that they are chain cam driven instead of cam belt
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17th July 2007, 15:51	#45
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	Honda city VTEC is much powerful and hence..
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