[NH08]

Mesmerised to see so many combinations of fuel. Flexi fuel, Bi-fuel, Hybrid fuel...

Petrol + Ethanol
Petrol + Electric
Petrol + CNG
Petrol + LPG (Our family used to have one)

And if somebody is saying he is using petrol only vehicle, then he is probably using Petrol + Water (or some other adulterant). Still, a flexi-fuel.

Coming next are Petrol + Hydrogen? Or Petrol + xyz.

Meanwhile, it is colder now in Delhi and for my 3 + 3 KM commute from home to office and back, I have started using 'No fuel' transportation i.e. my legs. At 5 kmph speed and 6 kmpl fuel consumption, this is fantastic no-pollution means of transportation.

Before anybody gets confused, here liter is not of petrol but of water.

[PreludeSH]

Does anyone know how much ethanol are we producing and how much savings it results against imported oil ?
Sugarcane is detrimental to water starved country like ours and hope we dont increase sugarcane production to satisfy these requirements

[srh]

Originally Posted by PreludeSH

Sugarcane is detrimental to water starved country like ours and hope we dont increase sugarcane production to satisfy these requirements

Ethanol production technology has advanced quite much. Most incremental production of ethanol will come from post harvest stubble and not from sugarcane. These are known as the 2G ethanol production solutions. Check this out

https://www.praj.net/businesslines/2...rmula%20C2H5OH.

[Gansan]

Where is ethanol fuel available in India? How will this car help under current conditions?

[bordeaux]

The whole FlexFuel thing can be misleading. I really hope our desi bros don't try running it on subsidized Kerosene

[GeeTee TSI]

Reading about this flex fuel Corolla makes me wonder how the higher Ethanol blend fuels will be rolled out. Will they be a specialty fuel only to be used by specific models since backward compatibility may not be possible with the present day (and older) models

[AJITHAAA]

There is no need for all hullabaloo about flex fuel especially the alternate fuel being Ethanol. Flex fuel ethanol cars have been running in Latin America(Brazil) for the better part of 30 years. For India being the second largest producer of sugarcane, adapting the technology would have been just an inter government agreement and some royalties. Instead we are trying to reinvent the proverbial wheel and Toyota seems to be (K)night in silver paint.

[volkman10]

Official Press release:

Launch of Toyota’s first of its kind pilot project on Flexi-Fuel Strong Hybrid Electric Vehicles (FFV-SHEV) in India.

There are many green energy pathways in electrification and alternate fuels that can help the transportation sector lower its dependence on fossil fuels, along with reducing its carbon footprint. Toyota has developed all clean technologies and believes in introducing these based on each country’s unique requirements and context, so as to minimize fossil fuel usage and achieve carbon reduction in the fastest possible time. Towards this direction, given India’s energy mix, its unique consumer profile and needs, infrastructure readiness, and the Government’s diversified efforts towards becoming ‘Atma Nirbhar’ in energy by 2047, we are advancing solutions with greater agility, thereby introducing and supporting multiple clean technology pathways.

As one of the most appropriate solutions, ethanol holds tremendous potential for India as it is an Indigenous and clean energy source, that can significantly reduce fossil fuel consumption, the energy import bill and carbon emissions. Being agriculture based, higher use of ethanol as fuel will also increase farmer incomes and create new jobs, thereby boosting the rural economy besides increasing revenue for the Government from surplus sugar and food grains. The Government has recently launched second-generation technologies for producing ethanol from agricultural residues like parali, which is currently otherwise burnt. This possibility will not only prevent severe air pollution but also help generate wealth from waste.

India has already achieved 10% ethanol blending five months ahead of schedule. The implementation of 20% ethanol blending in petrol by 2025-26 is expected to substitute 86 million barrels of Gasoline, thereby leading to forex savings of Rs. 30,000 crores for India, as well as reducing 10 Million tons of carbon emissions. Given the huge potential of ethanol production that exists up to and beyond E20, these benefits can increase multi-fold with the introduction of Flexi Fuel Vehicle (FFV) technology, that can flexibly use higher ethanol blends from 20% to 85%.

Globally, many countries like Brazil have hugely benefited from large scale introduction of FFVs. In fact, in Brazil an innovative Flexi fuel-strong Hybrid electric vehicle technology (FFV - SHEV) has been introduced by Toyota Brazil, which has the lowest Well-to-Wheel (W2W) carbon emissions for any technology in the country. An FFV– SHEV has a Flexi Fuel engine and an electric powertrain, thus providing dual benefit of higher ethanol use and greater fuel efficiency, as it can run for significant time periods on its EV mode, wherein the engine is shut off. The FFV-SHEV has much higher economic multiplier benefits, as it can hasten local manufacturing of electric and flexi-fuel powertrain parts, thus providing a disruption free & low risk industry and energy transition. As this technology provides the opportunity to benefit from both electrification and bio-fuel energy pathways, it enables a faster reduction of fossil fuel consumption, CO2 emissions, as well as boosting the agrarian economy.

In this background, Toyota today launched the pilot project on Flexi-Fuel Strong Hybrid Electric Vehicle Technology in Delhi.

During the launch, the Toyota Corolla Altis FFV-SHEV, that has been imported from Toyota Brazil for the pilot project was unveiled. This initiative marks Toyota’s first step to promote and create awareness on Ethanol as an important indigenous, carbon neutral energy pathway, along with the advanced Strong Hybrid Electric Vehicle technology of Toyota that can help India achieve true self-reliance, and contribute towards the national target of Carbon Net-Zero by 2070. Further, as a part of this project, collected data will be shared with the prestigious Indian Institute of Science, for conducting a deeper study about the well-to-wheel carbon emissions of FFV / FFV-SHEV in the Indian context. In this regard, a Memorandum of Understanding was also signed between Toyota Kirloskar Motor (TKM) and the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore.

Being a pioneer in electrified technology and as a responsible corporate citizen, TKM will continue its relentless efforts and contribute to future innovations by sharing sustainable technological advancements in the green mobility space.

Link

[enj0y_ride]

I feel, Toyota ( and Japanese manufacturers ) being laggers in BEVs is losing in markets like US and now targeting India, that too half heartedly without presenting any big investment plans or roadmaps.

This ethanol blending proportions are going to create a nightmare with distribution.

There is going to a vast majority of petrol cars that are going to be around for next 10 years that will require E10 grade petrol. In between Toyota, Suzuki ( and probably Honda too ) coming up with flex fuel prototypes ( again, with no solid roadmap thats India specific ) along with hybrid powertrain. They are confused and confusing the market too with "neither here nor there" type options.

My personal opinion is that BEVs are the future and those companies who are lagging behind are overselling hybrid ( which is nothing but a transitionary phase for which they cant make any long term commitments ).

[DarthVeda]

20% ethanol is getting mixed, but the price isn't reduced overall, we still have to pay 100% petrol price. How can the govt. get away with such practice?

[volkman10]

Toyota Corolla Altis Flex-Fuel Hybrid, which can run on ethanol-blended fuel (E85).







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[CEF_Beasts]

The Corolla Flex-Fuel Hybrid

https://youtu.be/48lPRy3czA8

[volkman10]

Toyota to Unveil its Flex-fuel prototype car on August 29th.

Toyota is all set to unveil the prototype of the first flex-fuel strong hybrid car (BS6 Phase-II compliant), the Camry, on August 29.

In October 2022, Nitin Gadkari launched Toyota's pilot project for a flex-fuel strong-hybrid car with a left-hand drive (LHD) Corolla Altis. In a span of over 10 months, Toyota is now ready to present the first prototype of its flex-fuel strong-hybrid vehicle, which will not be the Corolla, but the Camry.

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[volkman10]

Toyota to unveil the World's first prototype of the BS 6 Stage II ‘Electrified Flex Fuel Vehicle'.

Will it be the Toyota Innova Hycross?

[Cresterk]

Originally Posted by DicKy

Oh Lord Toyota, even if it is for testing/PR/lobbying, the 12th gen Corolla has touched Indian soil.

We, third world proletariats are grateful for this benevolent gesture. Ofcourse, just showcase it. We dare not even dream of it being on sale in the Indian market.

Let's be honest, barely any of us would actually buy this over a sleek Virtus GT or Slavia 1.5, especially if it was priced with the usual Toyota premium

I was half expecting a RAV4 or Corolla Cross. Surprised they brought the sedan version.