Cadillac - can they make it in India?

1Day · 24th October 2005, 21:19

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Originally Posted by islero

Caddies, even the previous STS, have always been largely underrated cars which had bad reviews because of their shoddy build quality and slightly dull looks.
The looks have been addresed in a rather dramatic way, but the build quality ( as Topgear observed) hasnt. Guess it will be slightly tough going for caddy in India.

Topgear isnt be all it all in car industry...the quality of Cady's today is almost at power with MB and BMW, since the quality of MBs and BMWs have come down significantly...Cady's gained afew notches and MB/BMW dropped putting them almost at the same level..

Unfortunetly for Cady they dont have too many engine choices for the same car..since they go with the biggest engine they would have to launch the same in India..which will price it right where MB is priced...the only good seller I can see for Cady is CTS and now may be XLR , thats it..the new Lexus GS/LS(one of the 2, i forgot the price) should give the STS a big competition...since STS wouldnt come here for anything less than 40-50+ lakhs pricing it higher than E..and this is Luxury V6 which the bottom 2nd choice..if you go higher, like a V8(wouldnt be a choice in india) you can go higher than the S...

The CTS would be priced about 29-37(same config) lakhs depending on how they bring the car to india...which is again head on E class...

XLR would be around 63-78 lakhs again depending on how they plan to bring it in India..which is a good price I feel but then again is priced right around 911 price range..

but these prices are with everything on Road..so it can be a deciding factor for many...It would be a difficult choice for me if I had to spend this kind of cash...between 911 and XLR and E and CTS.. STS and DTS would be out of the question for me since I am not going to be interested in them...

devarshi84 · 25th October 2005, 00:41

In the current situation where the cars in INdia are priced more than in Developed countries A caddy will be too expensive.

Here a camry costs similar to a corolla.

sidindica · 25th January 2009, 17:33

as per:
GM to drive in Cadillac - Automobiles-Auto-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

GM is planning to bring cadillac CTS in india.
the main question:
would anyone prefer it over Merc, BMW or Audi?, even though it has a rich heritage?

cruiser_1982 · 25th January 2009, 17:49

This car looks good, but with a lot of sharp edges and straight lines. I would prefer the elegant curves over these straight lines any day. I dont think the Cadillac can beat over the BMW, AUDI and Mercedes in India unless priced less.

speedzak · 25th January 2009, 17:54

People will like it but will never catch up like the Japanese and german marquees!

There will be lots of shortcomings attached to this car like any other american car.

amit · 25th January 2009, 17:55

Aren't the pictures of the slightly older Cadillacs? The new CTS looks pretty good.

I doubt the success of Cadillac in India. Two reasons:

- They will have to compete with Mercedes, BMW and Audi.

- No diesel engine.

- What petrol engine will they have? The 3.6L V6?

srijit · 25th January 2009, 18:17

How do I get over speed bumps?

ImmortalZ · 25th January 2009, 18:17

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CTS-V please!

I like Acuras, so I like the CTS. Sharp angles are fine with me

Mpower · 25th January 2009, 18:48

Its gonna be tough. With Merc, Audi and BMW no marketing was required because the public already knew about them and were waiting. Caddillac (at lease the new Caddillac) is an unknown entity and they have an uphill battle with building brand image. Funnyly in China they as well as Buick have been very well received.

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Originally Posted by srijit

How do I get over speed bumps?

Same way you do in a 5 series or A4.

lurker · 25th January 2009, 18:52

It will sell in some numbers, provided pricing is below 20L and it is CKD.
CBU will not sell here over and above the first few gizmo collectors.

aaggoswami · 25th January 2009, 21:25

This is possible, but with a few things in mind:
1) Its not CBU and that " Premium " german or Japanese brang.
2) It has a nice diesel engine range available.
3) The overall A.S & S. network and quality must be one of the best.
4) The brand must be developed separately rather than showing attachment to GM.

d3adlythegame · 25th January 2009, 22:21

i would BUY it right away, no doubts, i will be the one of the first people to book it

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Caramelo · 26th January 2009, 00:35

my 2 cents. this car has been tested and fine tuned at germany's famous nurberg ring.

i just cant get enough of this car. if they bring it herre it would be awesome. my dream car!!

abhinav.gupta88 · 26th January 2009, 00:46

I wouldn't buy it or even look at it.
For me its just another muscle car no matter it's some variant might have proved to be the fastest sedan around the 'ring.

I'd prefer something more agile, more involving ( Read : German )

BlackPearl · 26th January 2009, 02:03

The pictures may not have done justcie to this car. In flesh it is a stunner, particularly tha black one. It will no doubt stand apart in the crowd of Beemers and Mercs.

25th October 2005, 00:41	#17
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 213 Times View My Garage	In the current situation where the cars in INdia are priced more than in Developed countries A caddy will be too expensive. Here a camry costs similar to a corolla.
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25th January 2009, 17:33	#18
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,901 Thanked: 8,350 Times	will cadillac be successful in India? as per: GM to drive in Cadillac - Automobiles-Auto-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times GM is planning to bring cadillac CTS in india. the main question: would anyone prefer it over Merc, BMW or Audi?, even though it has a rich heritage? Attached Thumbnails Attached Images
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25th January 2009, 17:49	#19
cruiser_1982 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 313 Thanked: 16 Times	This car looks good, but with a lot of sharp edges and straight lines. I would prefer the elegant curves over these straight lines any day. I dont think the Cadillac can beat over the BMW, AUDI and Mercedes in India unless priced less.
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25th January 2009, 17:54	#20
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 29 Times	People will like it but will never catch up like the Japanese and german marquees! There will be lots of shortcomings attached to this car like any other american car.
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25th January 2009, 17:55	#21
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,712 Thanked: 451 Times	Aren't the pictures of the slightly older Cadillacs? The new CTS looks pretty good. I doubt the success of Cadillac in India. Two reasons: - They will have to compete with Mercedes, BMW and Audi. - No diesel engine. - What petrol engine will they have? The 3.6L V6?
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25th January 2009, 18:17	#22
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	How do I get over speed bumps?
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25th January 2009, 18:17	#23
ImmortalZ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,192 Thanked: 601 Times View My Garage	... CTS-V please! I like Acuras, so I like the CTS. Sharp angles are fine with me
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25th January 2009, 18:52	#25
lurker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tura Posts: 1,613 Thanked: 1,478 Times	It will sell in some numbers, provided pricing is below 20L and it is CKD. CBU will not sell here over and above the first few gizmo collectors.
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25th January 2009, 21:25	#26
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,997 Thanked: 3,000 Times	This is possible, but with a few things in mind: 1) Its not CBU and that " Premium " german or Japanese brang. 2) It has a nice diesel engine range available. 3) The overall A.S & S. network and quality must be one of the best. 4) The brand must be developed separately rather than showing attachment to GM.
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25th January 2009, 22:21	#27
d3adlythegame BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: new delhi Posts: 89 Thanked: Once	i would BUY it right away, no doubts, i will be the one of the first people to book it .
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26th January 2009, 00:35	#28
Caramelo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ahmedabad Posts: 769 Thanked: 17 Times	my 2 cents. this car has been tested and fine tuned at germany's famous nurberg ring. i just cant get enough of this car. if they bring it herre it would be awesome. my dream car!!
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26th January 2009, 00:46	#29
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	I wouldn't buy it or even look at it. For me its just another muscle car no matter it's some variant might have proved to be the fastest sedan around the 'ring. I'd prefer something more agile, more involving ( Read : German )
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26th January 2009, 02:03	#30
BlackPearl Team-BHP Support Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calcutta/London Posts: 3,664 Thanked: 17,386 Times View My Garage	The pictures may not have done justcie to this car. In flesh it is a stunner, particularly tha black one. It will no doubt stand apart in the crowd of Beemers and Mercs.
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