[blackfog]

I'm in similar situation needing proof of emission standard for 2013 model Ritz. (Reason is to add CNG to the Petrol car and get the RC updated.)

The dealership is closed and doesn't exist. RC and sale documents don't mention it. Vahaan database doesn't have this info.

Originally Posted by rahulkr14

To everyone facing this issue, approach the OEM directly and get confirmation from them regarding the BS standard of your car.

Maruti didn't respond to email sent to contact at maruti.co.in. Their call center staff cut the call abruptly twice after hearing my requirements.

What seems to be the best way forward?

Originally Posted by Motormania

Please approach the Regional Office of the OEM, with your RC, Insurance and invoice. They can check in their portal or in some cases get the same checked from factory. Post which they issue an undertaking on their letterhead stating the correct emission norms.

I shall try this approach soon.

[Mr. Nobody]

I had a similar issue and my Creta and Grand i10 were registered as Euro 2 in haryana rto while they both are euro 4. I got the 2 certificates mentioned above by another member here from my Hyundai dealer and submitted them along with an application to the RTO in Dec '23. They were then forwarded to chandigarh head office for approval and now in May 2024 they are finally approved and both my cars are shown as Euro 4 in Mparivahan app and the PUC booths.

[mrdhruv]

I am having same issue with my ciaz vxi 2014 model. It's BS4, but on PUC and Vahan data, it shows EURO 2. Are there any quick and efficient ways to update it with ease? Will RTO do it without any hurdles?

I mailed Maruti Suzuki, and in a few hours, they arranged a call with the dealership. I then got my BS4 complaint statement for my car under their letterhead. Will it work with RTO?

I am from Gujarat.

[myavu]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nobody

I got the 2 certificates mentioned above by another member here from my Hyundai dealer and submitted them along with an application to the RTO in Dec '23.

In which language did you provide the application? Can you please provide the RTO address.

Thanks.

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally Posted by myavu

In which language did you provide the application? Can you please provide the RTO address.

Thanks.

English. RTO office near Rajiv Chowk, Gurugram.

[Anwesh]

Originally Posted by Vernafied

Hi Folks,

I
From my sources i came to know that there is a form 22A which provided by manufacturer to dealer that requires at the time of registration which has the fuel norms mentioned.

suggest what can be done to get details updated in Vahan database?
@Mods, please merge my post in appropriate thread. Thank you.

AFAIK , form22A is to be provided by bus body builders when a new bus is registered.

What you require is the type approval certificate issued for your car model by A.R.A.I. This certificate is sent by A.R.A.I. to the transport commissioners of all states after the testing of a new model is concluded and the type approval is issued. To obtain a copy of this certificate, you need to contact A.R.A.I. Pune or the transport commissioner of Maharashtra (BKC, Mumbai) or Hyundai Motor India Ltd West zone office (Vikhroli, Mumbai )

HTH

[arjab]

You have to get it done from the RTO under which your vehicle is registered. I faced the same problem with my vehicle, (Chennai Central RTO/TN-01). Dealer at the time of selling did not update the emission norms, BS-4 in my case. As that particular field was not there i could not obtain a PUC certificate when I went to get the same some months later.
Finally had to get hold of one for those "agents" at the Chennai Central RTO who got it done. The actual "work" was a 5-minute affair. I witnessed it. The RTO official just logs into the vehicle details field against your registration number, selects edit using his administrator rights, clicks on the emission drop-down list, chooses the emission regime under which your car should be, then saves it. The irony of all this is that these should be done by the dealer at the time of sale!
Basically we are doing the dealer's and RTO's work, (which they messed up), and instead of getting thanked, end up getting harassed for no fault of ours.
And if they insist on seeing a proof, you have to befriend any Hyundai dealer and get it written on their letterhead with the dealer's stamp, about your vehicle details and the emission norm under which your vehicle falls. RTO should accept. My friend who owns a Baleno Altura and a Fiat Siena got it done in this way.

[thanixravindran]

Originally Posted by Anwesh

AFAIK , form22A is to be provided by bus body builders when a new bus is registered.

All motorized vehicle manufacturers have to give Form 22A when they sell vehicles to the dealer. It will have a section for emissions values and norms similar to PUC certificate apart from manufacturing date/month information. Only upon providing, RTO can register when a sale happens to end customer. RTO typically updates the Month/Year of manufacturing from that Form22A but they don't update the emissions. And this is the reason why a new car doesn't need to get emission certificate till a year of registration.

[Anwesh]

Originally Posted by thanixravindran

All motorized vehicle manufacturers have to give Form 22A when they sell vehicles to the dealer. It will have a section for emissions values and norms similar to PUC certificate apart from manufacturing date/month information. Only upon providing, RTO can register when a sale happens to end customer. RTO typically updates the Month/Year of manufacturing from that Form22A but they don't update the emissions. And this is the reason why a new car doesn't need to get emission certificate till a year of registration.

Form 22a is applicable if the vehicle body is fabricated separately. it is required for registration of goods carriers and buses. Please check the attachment.

[blackwasp]

Originally Posted by Vernafied

Hi Folks,

Due to this i am getting PUC of just 6 months instead of 1 year for BS4.

I had the same issue in my Abarth Punto. You need to go to a competent PUC centre which will overwrite BS4 into the BS3 field.

This is doable by a PUC guy who knows their stuff. I remember we had got it done somewhere on the Mumbai-Bangalore highway near Karad.

For a system level change, you will need to write an application to your RTO asking them to update the data with correct information. For proof of emission norms, you need to attach the latest PUC results along with the Emissions certificate (you will find this in the owners manual) - even declaration on PDF on dealership letter head will do.

[Shobhitsaxena]

If others are also suffering from this draconian and seemingly corrupt practice in Gurgaon, we should start voicing it online. I have started doing that since there is no other recourse left for regular folks

https://x.com/iamssaxena/status/1868...a6hiXJdsQ&s=19

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by thanixravindran

All motorized vehicle manufacturers have to give Form 22A...

Originally Posted by Anwesh

Form 22a is applicable if the vehicle body is fabricated separately. it is required for registration of goods carriers and buses. Please check the attachment.

Form 22, road-worthiness certificate provided from factory during dispatch. Original goes to RTO during first registration. I've always insisted on a copy from the dealership during every vehicle purchase for my records.

Comes in handy with traffic cops who refuse to acknowledge new vehicles don't need a separate PUC during first year on road, and cases like these. Better than depending on dealers or other 3rd parties who may not cooperate.

[Shobhitsaxena]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nobody

I had a similar issue and my Creta and Grand i10 were registered as Euro 2 in haryana rto while they both are euro 4. I got the 2 certificates mentioned above by another member here from my Hyundai dealer and submitted them along with an application to the RTO in Dec '23. They were then forwarded to chandigarh head office for approval and now in May 2024 they are finally approved and both my cars are shown as Euro 4 in Mparivahan app and the PUC booths.

Thanks Mr. Nobody for guidance here.

I followed the same, added email and X escalations on top of it. Got the correction done in 2 months in Gurgaon.

On a side note, seems like it's quite a widespread issue in Gurgaon. Most of the cars registered during 2015-17 are registered as EURO 2, that would mean thousands of cars, many would be unaware of this, unless they face a 20k challan on pretext of super confusing GRAP implementations in NCR

[rayjaycleoful]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nobody

I had a similar issue and my Creta and Grand i10 were registered as Euro 2 in haryana rto while they both are euro 4. I got the 2 certificates mentioned above by another member here from my Hyundai dealer and submitted them along with an application to the RTO in Dec '23. They were then forwarded to chandigarh head office for approval and now in May 2024 they are finally approved and both my cars are shown as Euro 4 in Mparivahan app and the PUC booths.

Originally Posted by Shobhitsaxena

Thanks Mr. Nobody for guidance here.

I followed the same, added email and X escalations on top of it. Got the correction done in 2 months in Gurgaon.

Hello both. Along with the form 22, what is the other document? My dealer (Safdarjung Hyundai) only sent the form which doesn’t mention car registration number.
TIA

[mpksuhas]

Originally Posted by condor

BS4 vehicles are getting PUC for only 6 months now. Petrol/Diesel both.

Yes, this is the case with KA (non Parivahan linked PUC system).

I too as you mentioned was getting PUC for 1 year from some certain bunks in Bangalore till around 2022 or so. However, past that the PUC system was updated based on year, I guess all vehicles prior to 2017 April is now considered as non BS4.

Hence my XUV 500 - 2014, which is BS4 can get only a 6 months certificate now. However, in Parivahan this model is marked as BS4, hence if I take PUC from any state which has its system linked to Parivahan, I get 1 year validity.