[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by rdhawan15

You are missing the point. The draft guidelines for the vehicle scrappage policy provide for:

- 4-6% discount on ex-showroom price
- Road tax discount
- Manufacturer discount in the form of scrappage bonus
- Option to convert the polluting vehicle to a green vehicle option.

As of today, a person scrapping the vehicle does not get any of these. Yes, a couple of manufacturers have started offering scrappage bonus. But, that's about it.
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I understand what you are saying. However, the provisions could also be made available to current age based scrap policy.

Anyway, my point was that any guidelines which may give rise to more corruption at RTO should be carefully looked at. Who would like to see their vehicle being scrapped due to failing emission test. For example, today there is requirement to assess medical fitness during DL renewal for person aged 40 and above. We know how that requirement is fulfilled at RTOs. If various transport guidelines existing today are followed in its true form, many vehicles/drivers would be off the road. But sadly that's not how it works in reality

[rdhawan15]

Originally Posted by Rshrey22

Does Green vehicle only mean electric conversion or CNG also?

It includes CNG as well.

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

I understand what you are saying. However, the provisions could also be made available to current age based scrap policy.

I concur with you. We are waiting for the provisions to be made available as per the draft. Until the provisions are made available, is it proper to enforce scrapping forcibly?

[master uio]

Originally Posted by tbppjpr

Very risky to make such video in this era for an YouTuber, especially for a lady in a country where govt sponsored trollers can go to any low to defend the govt.

Thanks for sharing this excellent video by Rajni Choudhary. The Lady has said it really well and presented in a very dignified way what I have written to the ministry. I have repeatedly written to the Govt. of India on this subject.

All I can think of is Cuss words when I am reminded of our less than intelligent sugarcane juice obsessed Minister of Road Transport.

[rdhawan15]

Originally Posted by master uio

Thanks for sharing this excellent video by Rajni Choudhary. The Lady has said it really well and presented in a very dignified way what I have written to the ministry. I have repeatedly written to the Govt. of India on this subject.

Questions need to be asked. If pollution is the sole basis for banning privately owned diesel cars, there are bigger sources of pollution that need to be controlled.

And, the entire focus seems to be on the Delhi NCR. More pollution is caused by:

a) Parali burning in Punjab
b) Running ill-maintained 2 stroke 2 wheelers in the Delhi NCR
c) Bad condition of CNG transport vehicles plying on the Delhi roads

The perspective of the Government needs to demonstrate show empathy for the middle class.

I can reiterate that the scrappage policy of the Government (in the present form) is against the middle class.

If diesel cars are adding to so much pollution, the Government must step forward and encourage EV purchases through zero-tax schemes. No tax for a person whose vehicle has been scrapped because of the pollution.

If I am willing to walk a step for helping the so-called environmental cause, let the Government also walk a step with me to improve the air quality. Let us work as partners in our efforts to resolve pollution issues across the country.

[master uio]

Originally Posted by rdhawan15

Questions need to be asked. If pollution is the sole basis for banning privately owned diesel cars, there are bigger sources of pollution that need to be

We pay taxes and strengthen the hands of the government and also vote and empower the wrong people to make our lives miserable. They collect our money and frame policies to defraud us.

This whole thing is out of line with a sane civilization. There are serving Army Officers in a 2-year-old Diesel SUV being pulled over for Pollution Checks and Vehicle Age checks in the NCR. Lesser Mortals - One is free to imagine and guage the harassment

[DigitalOne]

Originally Posted by tbppjpr

I am amazed to see that such law did not lead into any movement or any resistance despite affecting so many people.

That's because the mandatory scrappage rule is applicable only in NCR and it came about because of a Supreme court ruling. In India, you can file a review petition again but youu can't protest against the supreme court.

[sibot]

It is the middle class that is the most impacted by this inane ruling and that is exactly the reason why the government hasn't done anything about it as yet. Because the middle class won't protest, they won't come out on the streets, they'll swallow the bitter pill and continue living on. Just how the middle class doesn't protest against the absolutely insane fuel prices, they don't protest against such nonsensical and arbitrary decisions. Fuel prices above 100? They'll grumble but still fill their tanks full, scrap their vehicles prematurely? They'll grumble but still buy new cars.

[rdhawan15]

Originally Posted by sibot

It is the middle class that is the most impacted by this inane ruling and that is exactly the reason why the government hasn't done anything about it as yet. Because the middle class won't protest, they won't come out on the streets, they'll swallow the bitter pill and continue living on. Just how the middle class doesn't protest against the absolutely insane fuel prices, they don't protest against such nonsensical and arbitrary decisions. Fuel prices above 100? They'll grumble but still fill their tanks full, scrap their vehicles prematurely? They'll grumble but still buy new cars.

I think the middle-class has better things to do. But, no Government can ignore the middle class.

It was the middle class that voted out the UPA in 2014. It was the middle class that offered chance to Arvind Kejriwal in 2014.

As they say, ignore the middle class on your peril. The results are normally seen in the form of a silent reaction at the time of voting.

[MadMaxDiesel]

There is an application filed recently in Supreme Court challenging the mandatory scrapping of 10/15 years old car in Delhi NCR. Link to article:

https://www.livelaw.in/top-stories/m...e-court-270085

[tbppjpr]

Originally Posted by MadMaxDiesel

There is an application filed recently in Supreme Court challenging the mandatory scrapping of 10/15 years old car in Delhi NCR. Link to article:

Now this is going to be interesting, although I don't have much of hope especially for the NCR region after seeing the result of previously filed case.

Base of this new application is Article 300A of the constitution which guarantees that no person shall be deprived of their property except by authority of law.

But ironically here it's the authority of law itself which is impounding the personal property (read cars). Only saving ground here can be the clause of compensation according to this article but they can get away by making provision for paying pennies. Still a lose-lose situation for the public.

[visionrider]

I must say a ray of hope has risen. I believe it is the correct way to move forward. There are many cars out there which have been maintained with utmost care. Only hope the execution will be proper otherwise it will make no sense as many polluting vehicles especially commercial ones will continue plying on the roads.

[vipul_singh]

I am not sure if this change in stance would provide any real, immediate, relief. What I expect will happen is that the wording of the order shall be updated to refer to (say) 'BS-III and earlier models are not allowed' instead of saying 'cars over 10 years old are not allowed'.

The owners may prove perfect compliance to the applicable norms (BS-III in the example above), but it the norm itself is deemed to be too lax for NCR, the ban may, indeed, continue in another form.

[rdhawan15]

Originally Posted by vipul_singh

I am not sure if this change in stance would provide any real, immediate, relief.

More than the immediate relief, it is expected that the revised policy will use scientific basis for sending vehicles for scrapping.

So, countless cars and vehicles in good health may get a chance to prove fitness irrespective of the age criteria.

[volkman10]

Govt. giving another go at scrappage of cars.

UP govt has issued an order stating that owners of vehicles registered before 2003 will get a 75% tax exemption while those registered before 2008 will get a 50% rebate if they are scrapped.

Diesel vehicles, registered in NCR districts between 2008 and 2013, are also eligible for a 50% tax exemption.

Link:

[rdhawan15]

Delhi Government has given a go ahead for another enforcement drive to impound 10-year old diesel and 15-years old petrol vehicles.

So, expect vehicles to be impounded for scrapping at Government approved scrapping centres in the next 4-8 weeks. The contractors will be hyperactive in impounding good condition vehicles.


The revised Delhi scrappage policy inherits almost all the points from the previous draft published on 20 February 2024.

For your ready reckoning, here are the rules in a quick summary:

- End-of-life vehicles will be impounded from public spaces.
- End-of-life vehicle owners can choose to sell the expired or soon-to-expire vehicles outside Delhi after getting an NOC (No objection certificate) from the registering authority.

As an owner of End-of-life vehicles in Delhi, you are offered 2 options:

1. Sell your EOL vehicle outside Delhi. It is recommended to complete this process before the end of registration date (10 years for diesel vehicles and 15 years for petrol vehicles). Apply for the NOC online before the expiry date.

2. You can choose to park EOL vehicle in private parking area.

If your vehicle gets impounded, you have 2 options:

1. Pay a fine of Rs. 10000 to MCD.

Pay the impounding charges and parking charges to the scrapping agency. Get an NOC and take the vehicle from the scrap yard to a place outside Delhi. The vehicle will not be allowed to ply on Delhi roads.

This alternative is very tedious. So, I strongly suggest that you may dispose off the vehicle before the expiry date of the vehicle.

2. The 2nd option is for people who have private parking spaces. If your vehicle was impounded, you can share an affidavit with the MCD to keep your EOL vehicle parked in private parking space. This will help in getting the vehicle released after paying the MCD Charges (Rs. 10000), Parking Charges and impounding charges.

So, brace yourselves for action if you have an EOL vehicle plying on Delhi roads or parked on public roads in Delhi.

The bottomline -

1. There does not seem to be any hope of any revision in scrapping policy for Delhi.
2. Sell your vehicles before the end of registration period (10 years for Diesel and 15 years for Petrol vehicles)