Dayyum!! Government considering yet another 8% cess on cars

normally_crazy · 18th September 2007, 22:24

BTW - did anyone notice GTO's first post and this thread being reported in today's Mumbai Mirror on Page 31 under "blogger's park" ??

Wheeliej · 19th September 2007, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaserQ

India's contribution to Oxford dictionary this year:

'Cessed out' meaning: a constant state of being taxed, at times even resulting in irrational, criminal behaviour.

I think you mean "a constant state of being incessantly taxed, at times even resulting in irrational, criminal behaviour by the victim.

Let me try to find out more about these PIL's and how one can go about it.

himanshugoswami · 19th September 2007, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeliej

Let me try to find out more about these PIL's and how one can go about it.

Look no furhter Ma'am

I have filed about 4 PILs (3 in Delhi HC and 1 in SC).

Call me in case you are contemplating filing one....I will help you any which way I can.

blue2ki · 19th September 2007, 11:30

yea that is bad man.... petrol goin up re.1 and 2-whelrs to cost 4% more

19th September 2007, 11:40

Why do they need more money? What are these traitors doing with existing loot? All the tax+levies+octroi etc money collected is misued by netas and babus in utterly useless 'social projects' and 'schemes'.

As Indians we pay some of the highest taxes for everything and yet have to live in near slum like conditions. Pathetic.

India needs a true conservative movement. Someone with vision to plan and implement a leaner, meaner, less hungry government and more individual and business friendly policies.

If Gandhi were alive today, he would start a nationwide protest against our 'elected representatives'.

VMG · 19th September 2007, 16:22

Is it confirmed news that the price is going to increase? If yes, anyone knows when and how much increase?

snaronikar · 19th September 2007, 17:23

Hi, guys,

Just thought of sharing with you........Taxes that we pay in India. I received this on my mail some time back.

TAX STRUCTURE IN INDIA

1) Qus. : What are you doing?
Ans.: Business.
Tax: PAY PROFESSIONAL TAX!

2) Qus. : What are you doing in Business?
Ans.: Selling the Goods.
Tax: PAY SALES TAX!!

3) Qus. : From where are you getting Goods?
Ans.: From other State/Abroad
Tax: PAY CENTRAL SALES TAX, CUSTOM DUTY & OCTROI!

4) Qus. : What are you getting in Selling Goods?
Ans.: Profit.
Tax: PAY INCOME TAX!

5) Qus. : Where you Manufacturing the Goods?
Ans.: Factory.
Tax: PAY EXCISE DUTY!

6) Qus. : Do you have Office / Warehouse/ Factory?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY MUNICIPAL & FIRE TAX!

7) Qus. : Do you have Staff?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY STAFF PROFESSIONAL TAX!

8) Qus. : Doing business in Millions?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY TURNOVER TAX!

9) Qus. : Are you taking out over 25,000 Cash from Bank?
Ans.: Yes, for Salary.
Tax: PAY CASH HANDLING TAX!

10) Qus. : Where are you taking your client for Lunch & Dinner?
Ans.: Hotel
Tax: PAY FOOD & ENTERTAINMENT TAX!

11) Qus. : Are you going Out of Station for Business?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY FRINGE BENEFIT TAX!

12) Qus. : Have you taken or given any Service/s?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY SERVICE TAX!

13) Qus. : How come you got such a Big Amount?
Ans.: Gift on birthday.
Tax: PAY GIFT TAX!

14) Qus. : Do you have any Wealth?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY WEALTH TAX!

15) Qus. : To reduce Tension, for entertainment, where are you going?
Ans.: Cinema or Resort.
Tax: PAY ENTERTAINMENT TAX!

16) Qus. : Have you purchased House?
Ans.: Yes
Tax : PAY STAMP DUTY & REGISTRATION FEE !

17) Qus. : How you Travel?
Ans.: Bus
Tax: PAY SURCHARGE!

18) Qus. : Any Additional Tax?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY EDUCATIONAL, ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL & SURCHARGE ON ALL THE CENTRAL GOVT.'s TAX !!!

19) Qus. : Delayed any time Paying Any Tax?
Ans.: Yes
Tax: PAY INTEREST & PENALTY!

benbsb29 · 19th September 2007, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by normally_crazy

BTW - did anyone notice GTO's first post and this thread being reported in today's Mumbai Mirror on Page 31 under "blogger's park" ??

Gautam, what exactly does the article say?
As for the current topic at hand, i have no words. All i can do is rant, and then keep doing that all over again.

LLL · 19th September 2007, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by VMG

Is it confirmed news that the price is going to increase? If yes, anyone knows when and how much increase?

I guess it will be a few days while they decide on this. Once they have decided to levy 8% cess on price of the car, then it will be a matter of few days as they will need to create some kind of mechanism or process to collect the cess from the dealers.

Also, they have not said whether this is applicable to sale of used cars. If it is, then it will create another channel to create black money. People will declare a lower sale price and take the remainder as black.

Chandrainsky · 20th September 2007, 08:41

I dont think it would affect used cars since that involves only transfer ownership. Do we rellay pay any tax/duty for transfers as well?

ramki067 · 20th September 2007, 09:13

I'm praying not to include the cess before Diwali coz i'm planning to buy then or will they include before that?

Rajiv Menon · 20th September 2007, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chandrainsky

I dont think it would affect used cars since that involves only transfer ownership. Do we rellay pay any tax/duty for transfers as well?

In Gurgaon I am now paying VAT of about 12% on the outstanding principal loan value for chaning the car ownership in my name from a company lease due to change in employment. I would assume this is applicable for all transfers where ownership changes and not only because in my case its a company lease, but I may be wrong.

18th September 2007, 22:24	#46
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,305 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	BTW - did anyone notice GTO's first post and this thread being reported in today's Mumbai Mirror on Page 31 under "blogger's park" ??
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19th September 2007, 11:30	#49
blue2ki BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: city of ghosts Posts: 185 Thanked: Once View My Garage	yea that is bad man.... petrol goin up re.1 and 2-whelrs to cost 4% more
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19th September 2007, 11:40	#50
SuperSyn Posts: n/a	Why do they need more money? What are these traitors doing with existing loot? All the tax+levies+octroi etc money collected is misued by netas and babus in utterly useless 'social projects' and 'schemes'. As Indians we pay some of the highest taxes for everything and yet have to live in near slum like conditions. Pathetic. India needs a true conservative movement. Someone with vision to plan and implement a leaner, meaner, less hungry government and more individual and business friendly policies. If Gandhi were alive today, he would start a nationwide protest against our 'elected representatives'.
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19th September 2007, 16:22	#51
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 348 Thanked: 47 Times	Is it confirmed news that the price is going to increase? If yes, anyone knows when and how much increase?
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19th September 2007, 17:23	#52
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	Hi, guys, Just thought of sharing with you........Taxes that we pay in India. I received this on my mail some time back. TAX STRUCTURE IN INDIA 1) Qus. : What are you doing? Ans.: Business. Tax: PAY PROFESSIONAL TAX! 2) Qus. : What are you doing in Business? Ans.: Selling the Goods. Tax: PAY SALES TAX!! 3) Qus. : From where are you getting Goods? Ans.: From other State/Abroad Tax: PAY CENTRAL SALES TAX, CUSTOM DUTY & OCTROI! 4) Qus. : What are you getting in Selling Goods? Ans.: Profit. Tax: PAY INCOME TAX! 5) Qus. : Where you Manufacturing the Goods? Ans.: Factory. Tax: PAY EXCISE DUTY! 6) Qus. : Do you have Office / Warehouse/ Factory? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY MUNICIPAL & FIRE TAX! 7) Qus. : Do you have Staff? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY STAFF PROFESSIONAL TAX! 8) Qus. : Doing business in Millions? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY TURNOVER TAX! 9) Qus. : Are you taking out over 25,000 Cash from Bank? Ans.: Yes, for Salary. Tax: PAY CASH HANDLING TAX! 10) Qus. : Where are you taking your client for Lunch & Dinner? Ans.: Hotel Tax: PAY FOOD & ENTERTAINMENT TAX! 11) Qus. : Are you going Out of Station for Business? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY FRINGE BENEFIT TAX! 12) Qus. : Have you taken or given any Service/s? Ans.: Yes Tax : PAY SERVICE TAX! 13) Qus. : How come you got such a Big Amount? Ans.: Gift on birthday. Tax: PAY GIFT TAX! 14) Qus. : Do you have any Wealth? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY WEALTH TAX! 15) Qus. : To reduce Tension, for entertainment, where are you going? Ans.: Cinema or Resort. Tax: PAY ENTERTAINMENT TAX! 16) Qus. : Have you purchased House? Ans.: Yes Tax : PAY STAMP DUTY & REGISTRATION FEE ! 17) Qus. : How you Travel? Ans.: Bus Tax: PAY SURCHARGE! 18) Qus. : Any Additional Tax? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY EDUCATIONAL, ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL & SURCHARGE ON ALL THE CENTRAL GOVT.'s TAX !!! 19) Qus. : Delayed any time Paying Any Tax? Ans.: Yes Tax: PAY INTEREST & PENALTY! Last edited by Samurai : 19th September 2007 at 17:39. Reason: remove font tags
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20th September 2007, 08:41	#55
Chandrainsky Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20 Thanked: Once	I dont think it would affect used cars since that involves only transfer ownership. Do we rellay pay any tax/duty for transfers as well?
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20th September 2007, 09:13	#56
ramki067 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 616 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	I'm praying not to include the cess before Diwali coz i'm planning to buy then or will they include before that?
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