[lightpower]

Originally Posted by anachronix

... as the good/best are there for over a decade in the industry.

Till now I thought decade is only 10 years ... No offenses here

[harry10]

Originally Posted by JayD

i think the Vista launch is delayed abroad because of the LHD dashboard.

Nopes Jay. its been delayed as Tata will be providing Abs/Airbags in it and the production for that has still not been started.
The Console as far as i know will remain in middle only.

[prmd_cochin]

Somebody in the 'CV thread' said 'TATA and Quality dosnt go together'. How true? I wouldnt dare read that edmunds article.

[vinit.merchant]

I was under an impression that a lot of changes are made to the cars which are exported to Europe to ensure that quality is top notch as compared to their indian variants.
But, it seems Tata's aren't doing much to ensure Quality is upto the mark.

The article also states 'We do not doubt that the company is meeting European standards, but just meeting the standards is not enough'. So true.
Also, Since the car is exported, It might be difficult for Tata to price is too low due to the taxes that it may have to pay, Because even the Fiat Panda is available cheaper than the Indica.

[prmd_cochin]

Originally Posted by vinit.merchant

I was under an impression that a lot of changes are made to the cars which are exported to Europe to ensure that quality is top notch as compared to their indian variants.
But, it seems Tata's aren't doing much to ensure Quality is upto the mark.

The article also states 'We do not doubt that the company is meeting European standards, but just meeting the standards is not enough'. So true.
Also, Since the car is exported, It might be difficult for Tata to price is too low due to the taxes that it may have to pay, Because even the Fiat Panda is available cheaper than the Indica.

Still they managed to sell 3000 odd cars, imagine with a better finish what theyc an achieve. But simple they wont, they cant. Look at Mahindra for that matter, their fiorst proper car was Scorpio and look at iots fit and finish.

Years of Merecedez tieup didnt teach TATAs anything, i guess what they are going to learn now.

[TeddyBear]

Originally Posted by prmd_cochin

Still they managed to sell 3000 odd cars, imagine with a better finish what theyc an achieve.

Indica Vista is far better Car compared to the the car tested in Italy.

Yes, it may not be lacking few things compared to Getz (i20) or Swift. But they are manged to pack and sell 60K less than the Swift.

I am comparing the VDI and Vista Aura models with Price difference + cost of additional features available in Vista, hence arrived the 60K difference.

[Volt]

I am sure the Tata's will take the criticism positively and use it for product improvement. But we must applaud them for taking a purely Indian product overseas to one of the most competitive markets in the world.

[harry10]

Originally Posted by TeddyBear

Indica Vista is far better Car compared to the the car tested in Italy.

Yes, it may not be lacking few things compared to Getz (i20) or Swift. But they are manged to pack and sell 60K less than the Swift.

I am comparing the VDI and Vista Aura models with Price difference + cost of additional features available in Vista, hence arrived the 60K difference.

I dont think Vista has anything missing which Swift has.(If we talk about ABS it is coming soon in Vista and moreover Swift Abs is rare as MUL is not able to produce many).
Rather Vista has many features which Swift Vdi doesn't have!

[sumeethaldankar]

Here are a couple of reviews for TATA

motoring.co.za - Well-specced Tata ranges lead way on pricing


We drive Tata's baby twins: Wheels: NewModels

Also a forum discussion on the Indica

Tata Indica - The Prophecy Forums

[tushky]

thes are some Jokes on TATA
How do you Upgrade a TATA?

A: Put in an engine.

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Q: Why do TATA's have heated rear windows?
A: To keep your hands warm when you're pushing them.

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Q. What's the difference between a TATA and the principal's office?
A. It's less embarrassing if your friends see you leaving the
principal's
office.

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Q: What goes on pages 4-5 of the TATA's user's manual?
A: The train & bus schedule.

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A man goes to a parts garage:
Man: "Can I have a windshield wiper for a TATA please?"
Parts man: "Yeah, that seems like a fair swap."

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Q: What is the sport-version of TATA?
A: The driver wears Nike shoes.

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Q: What do you call a TATA at the top of a hill?
A: A miracle.

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Q: What do you call two TATA's at the top of a hill?
A: A mirage.

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Q: What do you call a TATA with dual exhausts?
A: A wheelbarrow.

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Q: How do you double the value of a TATA ?
A: Half fill it with petrol!

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Q: What do you call a TATA with brakes?
A: Customized.

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Q: What do you have to do if your TATA gets in the way of a swarm of
killer bees?
A: Stop pushing and take refuge into the car.

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Q: What is the TATA owner's most ardent wish?
A: To buy a car.

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Q: What do you call a TATA with a seat belt?
A: A rucksack.

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Q: How do you make a TATA go faster uphill?
A: Throw out the passenger.

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Q: How do you make a TATA go faster downhill?
A: Turn off the engine.

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Q: What do you call a TATA with a flat tire?
A: A write off.

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TATA has announced a new 16 Valve model for 2006.
8 in the engine, 8 in the radio.

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*I can see you've got a new car - a TATA!
*Yes, I won the second prize in a lottery.
*What was the first prize then?
*A fruit-basket.

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TATA's are so slow that you actually have to wipe off the bugs from the

rear end of the car

[d_himan]

hilarious tushky! Are they really Tata jokes or is it a Ctrl-C,Ctrl-V job?

Anyway, when the Innova is panned for bad build quality (Review: Toyota Innova | The Truth About Cars), what hope does an Indica have?

Slightly OT, but I dread to think what rating the Indian built Swift would get...

[salilpawar1]

I guess they are actually very old Skoda jokes.

[tushky]

Originally Posted by d_himan

hilarious tushky! Are they really Tata jokes or is it a Ctrl-C,Ctrl-V job?

long time ago i read it on one forum..i saved it. and now i did ctrl- C,Ctrl-V job

[zenx]

Lovely jokes.
The reviews themselves are from a "driver's car" pov. Tata, catering to a huge Indian market, has been packaging cars for cheap, affordable ownership instead. So the outcome of the reviews is expected.
In all honesty, India is where the global brands really get pitted against Tata - and they've done admirably so far. Sluggish ? Pretty adequate for most driving needs in the markets they mostly operate in. Poorly finished ? Sure, but my Honda's not doing that well after its usual share of traffic scrapes.
You got to see (drive?) the car in context. And in its intended context, its done fabulously well so far. Ask any taxi driver - they would not trust unreliable cars with a bargepole - especially for out of town stints.
Now that they are going global, the product packaging (I will not blindly call it "quality" - thats too sweeping) is changing dramatically too. The new Safari, the Vista are steps in that direction.
Edmunds/TG and co have a right to their take on this.
Buts its a familiar story - the Japs, Hyundai, Kia .... we'll revisit these reviews in, say 2012 and have a good laugh, perhaps

[amit_purohit20]

In my last visit to Madrid, Spain I had a fortune of seeing a pristinely maintained shining black Indica Petrol. The car looked clean with a high gloss and the black colour was awesome. I think it sells there as a Rover product.

Not only I but my colleagues also felt proud to see and Indican car on foreign soil and that too in such a well maintained condition.

Inspite of foreign high end brands of bikes and motorcycles seeing and Indian manufacturers car on foreign roads is something which makes us all proud doesn't it?