WagonR or Zen or Santro

Montoya · 29th April 2005, 21:55

That is if you wait till 27th. Further prices will surely reduce but then its a matter of time. I would recomment a fully loaded wagon R Vxi with ABs and airbags in balck colour with super alloy wheels. But then it all depends on your budget..

aah78 · 29th April 2005, 22:18

go in for the Zen. it'll be easier for your father to adapt to, since its only slightly bigger than the 800.
the newer one comes with power steering for easier driveability.
i would have recommended the Wagon R but the ride quality of a Zen is slightly superior to it.
also, the tall-boy stance may make it difficult for older people to climb-in and out of.

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Montoya · 29th April 2005, 22:20

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Originally Posted by aah78

also, the tall-boy stance may make it difficult for older people to climb-in and out of.

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What you talking about

i thought it was easier to get in and out in tall cars like the innova and wagon R

vandan · 29th April 2005, 23:40

hey,about buying an A/T,i think your dad will find it tough to suddenly change into Auto ,i have HEARD that people used to driving manuals when shifted to A/T when nervous press the brake thinking it to be the clutch,how ever i may be wrong on this cause have not met a single person with this prob as yet.So just be sure what you buy him

adya33 · 29th April 2005, 23:48

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Originally Posted by vandan

hey,about buying an A/T,i think your dad will find it tough to suddenly change into Auto ,i have HEARD that people used to driving manuals when shifted to A/T when nervous press the brake thinking it to be the clutch,how ever i may be wrong on this cause have not met a single person with this prob as yet.So just be sure what you buy him

I did it once on my uncles Sonata thankfully I was on empty peice of road!
It was pretty silly as I had been warned about same just 5 min ago before getting into car

Montoya · 29th April 2005, 23:58

Have done it too on a CVT and then had to immediately shift into Sports mode in order to avoid harsh words by the auto behind me which almost ran into the CVT..

Mpower · 30th April 2005, 01:35

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Originally Posted by MONTOYA

That is if you wait till 27th. Further prices will surely reduce but then its a matter of time. I would recomment a fully loaded wagon R Vxi with ABs and airbags in balck colour with super alloy wheels. But then it all depends on your budget..

C'mon dude,

you think a 60 year old gentleman will like to be seen in a pimping black car with tints and alloys.

Montoya · 30th April 2005, 12:24

Thats my personal opinion Mpower. I would do that. Now for him i have already suggested a AT.

vandan · 30th April 2005, 13:13

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Thats my personal opinion Mpower. I would do that. Now for him i have already suggested a AT.

no offence but that suggestion goes down to i think form your and adya33 experiences rite¿ i mean if you young guys could make that mistake then how can you expect a 60 yr old man not to¿

Montoya · 30th April 2005, 13:36

Hey Vandan its just a matter of habit. I was not at all used to the full clutch system in the City. As i was used to half clutch of Esteem. So that was like a problem for some while but no after a time of practise it makes me do it perfectly.

CaliforniaKnight · 30th April 2005, 13:41

I suggest you go in for the Wagon R. Well admitted compared to the santro its more boxy, but we are talking practicality here.Space, Fe, are all better and since your dad is 60+ getting in and out will also be a boon for him.He will definitely appreciate the view once he sits in the drivers seat, its a commanding one when compared to the 800.

prasadee · 1st May 2005, 11:00

#16,
My father is not an auto enthusiast, he would not know the difference between alloys and steel wheels. I am not sure about AT, he is very slow in adapting to change - like many other 60+ people. AC and PS should be a welcome change. There seem to be many cars/models with these features.
#17,
Why do you think getting in and out is tougher with a tall boy modelcar? Getting out should be much easier, it is like getting out of a chair, as opposed to getting up from the ground. Is'nt it?
-Prasadee

DCEite · 1st May 2005, 11:42

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Originally Posted by prasadee

#17,
Why do you think getting in and out is tougher with a tall boy modelcar? Getting out should be much easier, it is like getting out of a chair, as opposed to getting up from the ground. Is'nt it?
-Prasadee

Getting in and out is much much easier with a tall boy car like wagonR. There are no doubts about it. I graduated from M800 to WagonR.. and beleive me, its so easy to get in and out of the driver's seat.. no effort required to bend your back with your knees going skywards.. its all comfy in there with the tall seating...

lamborghini · 1st May 2005, 12:28

Get Him an Alto LXi.
Its got the same engine, is bigger then the 800, more comfortable then the 800 and zen and has a much better build then them too.
Its also more FE then the Zen and a bit down then the 800.
An other option would be to ask them to go with you to a place which passes the Maruti and Hyundai showroom, stop and ask them to drive the 4 cars on some false reason ( you want to see the changes they have made on the wagonR and see how the alto is) and surprise him on their anniversary with the one they like best.

Revvmaster · 1st May 2005, 14:54

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i would have recommended the Wagon R but the ride quality of a Zen is slightly superior to it.

Advait, yes the new Zen has a better ride quality than its predecessor (considering 12 inch, high profile tyres), but compared to the Wagon-R it actually lags in this department. I can vouch for it since i own both of them, and the Wagon-R actually isolates its passengers better, from the bumps and ridges on the road.

Revv

29th April 2005, 22:18	#17
aah78 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC / BOM Posts: 4,662 Thanked: 3,257 Times View My Garage	zen go in for the Zen. it'll be easier for your father to adapt to, since its only slightly bigger than the 800. the newer one comes with power steering for easier driveability. i would have recommended the Wagon R but the ride quality of a Zen is slightly superior to it. also, the tall-boy stance may make it difficult for older people to climb-in and out of. ads
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vandan BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 179 Thanked: Once	hey,about buying an A/T,i think your dad will find it tough to suddenly change into Auto ,i have HEARD that people used to driving manuals when shifted to A/T when nervous press the brake thinking it to be the clutch,how ever i may be wrong on this cause have not met a single person with this prob as yet.So just be sure what you buy him
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29th April 2005, 23:58	#21
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	Have done it too on a CVT and then had to immediately shift into Sports mode in order to avoid harsh words by the auto behind me which almost ran into the CVT..
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30th April 2005, 12:24	#23
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	Thats my personal opinion Mpower. I would do that. Now for him i have already suggested a AT.
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Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey Vandan its just a matter of habit. I was not at all used to the full clutch system in the City. As i was used to half clutch of Esteem. So that was like a problem for some while but no after a time of practise it makes me do it perfectly.
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29th April 2005, 21:55	#16
Montoya BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Best City In India Mumbai Posts: 665 Thanked: 0 Times	That is if you wait till 27th. Further prices will surely reduce but then its a matter of time. I would recomment a fully loaded wagon R Vxi with ABs and airbags in balck colour with super alloy wheels. But then it all depends on your budget..
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30th April 2005, 13:41	#26
CaliforniaKnight BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: IND + DXB Posts: 980 Thanked: 141 Times View My Garage	I suggest you go in for the Wagon R. Well admitted compared to the santro its more boxy, but we are talking practicality here.Space, Fe, are all better and since your dad is 60+ getting in and out will also be a boon for him.He will definitely appreciate the view once he sits in the drivers seat, its a commanding one when compared to the 800.
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prasadee BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 569 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	#16, My father is not an auto enthusiast, he would not know the difference between alloys and steel wheels. I am not sure about AT, he is very slow in adapting to change - like many other 60+ people. AC and PS should be a welcome change. There seem to be many cars/models with these features. #17, Why do you think getting in and out is tougher with a tall boy modelcar? Getting out should be much easier, it is like getting out of a chair, as opposed to getting up from the ground. Is'nt it? -Prasadee
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1st May 2005, 12:28	#29
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Get Him an Alto LXi. Its got the same engine, is bigger then the 800, more comfortable then the 800 and zen and has a much better build then them too. Its also more FE then the Zen and a bit down then the 800. An other option would be to ask them to go with you to a place which passes the Maruti and Hyundai showroom, stop and ask them to drive the 4 cars on some false reason ( you want to see the changes they have made on the wagonR and see how the alto is) and surprise him on their anniversary with the one they like best.
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