GOVT Babu ! Upgrading AMBY to FIESTA

arin_12 · 11th June 2009, 10:39

GOVT Babu's are now no more with Home Made AMBY. They are going for American made FORD. Does this means GOVT will also not support Indian Manufacturer and reduce import duty. Or its just a show off too american president.

srijit · 11th June 2009, 11:11

LOL. I have seen the following vehicles being used by various Govt departments
Skoda Octavia
Maruti Baleno
Fiat Linea
Ford Ikon
Mahindra Bolero

Maybe it is the Babu's who are only jumping to Ford. ;p

esteem_lover · 11th June 2009, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by arin_12

GOVT Babu's are now no more with Home Made AMBY. They are going for American made FORD. Does this means GOVT will also not support Indian Manufacturer and reduce import duty. Or its just a show off too american president.

Just where did you get this information ?

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Originally Posted by srijit

LOL. I have seen the following vehicles being used by various Govt departments
Skoda Octavia
Maruti Baleno
Fiat Linea
Ford Ikon
Mahindra Bolero

Maybe it is the Babu's who are only jumping to Ford. ;p

Any vehicle with a G on the number plate is not a government vehicle.

amitk26 · 11th June 2009, 11:41

The information is correct but it is not just Ford , Earlier only Amby was approved by various government departments such as Director General of Civil Supplies etc. Now host of other manufacturers have gained the approval and moved in amby territory. And also this is not a new phenomenon but ongoing for past 5/6 years , Maruti Esteem was first one to enter the government purchase market.

And there is nothing Foreign / Homemade in this , Amby was Foreign (Morris _ in late 40s and 1950s and HM started manufacturing them in India , in the same way Ford is manufacturing in Chennai.

HM used this foreign bogey for too long to preserve its only reason of existence.

Anyway government was using Jeeps for decades which were produced by M&M under license from Chrysler so I do not see why TOI should publish this as a news.

I think only Tata Indigo / Indica can lay the claim for indianness.

prince_pervez · 11th June 2009, 11:45

Yeah saw this on TV today. It seems PC went to the showroom to get a test drive of the Fiesta. Wonder why? He is not gonna drive it anyway. Maybe wanted to check some leg room or something. Anyways good move. What about those Ikons they showed on air? Who gets to ride those ?

ahuja365 · 11th June 2009, 11:51

As it is ford is manufactured in India nad after so many years it is highly localised so no question of american imports and morever fiesta is european rather than american coz they also do not have fiesta in their market.

vnabhi · 11th June 2009, 11:56

Gosh, I saw a white Fiesta today with a beamer light on top today---and now I get to read this article!! Coincidence??

pranava999 · 11th June 2009, 12:02

It's such a farce to see them waste our tax money. Come on the amby would have done a better job of keeping them connected with the aam aadmi

One evening, while waiting for a client at the lobby of 7 star at Delhi,I got to see quite a few of these national level political honchos coming for a party. They were not in their "official" transport. I guess all of you can fairly guess what their "personal" transports must be like. What's the point in going in for the Fiestas, Ikons, Toyotas when they don't come close to the comfort levels of their wives cars or their sons cars or those of their kith and kin? Might as well just use those and burden us with fuel allowances..

deepclutch · 11th June 2009, 12:05

Since Amby is losing out in sarkar offices ,TATA should really consider bringing up a "sarkar gaadi"

.Be Indian;Buy Indian .

sidindica · 11th June 2009, 12:14

fiesta limited edition @5,55,000* only.

* limited edition will be regularly available for govt fleets.

pb10gagan · 11th June 2009, 12:17

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Originally Posted by sidindica

fiesta limited edition @5,55,000* only.

* limited edition will be regularly available for govt fleets.

im sure no one else but the "sarkari drivers" can put the handling of fiesta to good use.
good time to be a sarkari driver and rip those highways and city streets and the poor traffic police can do nothing but stand and salute.

rjstyles69 · 11th June 2009, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by arin_12

GOVT Babu's are now no more with Home Made AMBY. They are going for American made FORD. Does this means GOVT will also not support Indian Manufacturer and reduce import duty. Or its just a show off too american president.

And who said its only Ford ? The article in TOI did speak about other manufacturers cars also being used.

arin_12 · 11th June 2009, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjstyles69

And who said its only Ford ? The article in TOI did speak about other manufacturers cars also being used.

I am referring to the Show that was aired on TV today. PC goes to FORD showroom, and had a TD. The dealer even says that many car has been delivered and many more on pipe line to deliver.

I told home made becos of the Import duty that we paid for foreign parts. As we all new that if the parts are localised than the price comes down. GOVT want to give some extra benefit to HM/TATA/MSIL ...

Does this also require to educate the GOVT drivers ? The power full car may be abused by these driver which may be riskier for all common man.

amitk26 · 11th June 2009, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by arin_12

I am referring to the Show that was aired on TV today. PC goes to FORD showroom, and had a TD. The dealer even says that many car has been delivered and many more on pipe line to deliver.

I told home made becos of the Import duty that we paid for foreign parts. As we all new that if the parts are localised than the price comes down. GOVT want to give some extra benefit to HM/TATA/MSIL ...

Does this also require to educate the GOVT drivers ? The power full car may be abused by these driver which may be riskier for all common man.

There are imported parts even in M&M, MSIL and TATA vehicles do you think that embedded processor of ECU is made in India ? How exactly do we know from where Delphi / Bosch are procuring fuel pumps and common rail lines.

Likewise for all Marutis now have ECU and there are so many parts which are imported.
Curx of the story is cost of the vehicle and maintainance cost ,
People stopped buying Amby as personal vehicle due to economic reasons ( apart from asthetics ) and same should be applied to our own mony in hands of government ( read tax money).

Amby with pathatic breaking is even more dangerous then any other car.

Now use and misuse of government property is something beyond purchase choice and equally applicable to Amby , Ford maruti or anything else.

akhilesh51 · 11th June 2009, 14:53

In Rajasthan:

Ministers: Tata Safari 2.2 VTT EX
Other Cabinet / Small Ministries: Tata Safari 2.2 VTT LX
Magistrates : Maruti Baleno / Chevrolet Optra Magnum
Beaurocrats: HM Ambassador / Tata Indigo
Ex - Chief Minister (Vasundhara Raje) : Merc, Corolla, et al (On Govt. Expense)
Current Chief Minister (Ashok Gehlot) : HM Ambassador

11th June 2009, 10:39	#1
arin_12 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 634 Thanked: 102 Times View My Garage	GOVT Babu ! Upgrading AMBY to FIESTA GOVT Babu's are now no more with Home Made AMBY. They are going for American made FORD. Does this means GOVT will also not support Indian Manufacturer and reduce import duty. Or its just a show off too american president.
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11th June 2009, 11:11	#2
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	LOL. I have seen the following vehicles being used by various Govt departments Skoda Octavia Maruti Baleno Fiat Linea Ford Ikon Mahindra Bolero Maybe it is the Babu's who are only jumping to Ford. ;p
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11th June 2009, 11:41	#4
amitk26 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,089 Thanked: 716 Times	The information is correct but it is not just Ford , Earlier only Amby was approved by various government departments such as Director General of Civil Supplies etc. Now host of other manufacturers have gained the approval and moved in amby territory. And also this is not a new phenomenon but ongoing for past 5/6 years , Maruti Esteem was first one to enter the government purchase market. And there is nothing Foreign / Homemade in this , Amby was Foreign (Morris _ in late 40s and 1950s and HM started manufacturing them in India , in the same way Ford is manufacturing in Chennai. HM used this foreign bogey for too long to preserve its only reason of existence. Anyway government was using Jeeps for decades which were produced by M&M under license from Chrysler so I do not see why TOI should publish this as a news. I think only Tata Indigo / Indica can lay the claim for indianness.
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11th June 2009, 11:45	#5
prince_pervez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Redwood shores, CA, USA Posts: 4,211 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Yeah saw this on TV today. It seems PC went to the showroom to get a test drive of the Fiesta. Wonder why? He is not gonna drive it anyway. Maybe wanted to check some leg room or something. Anyways good move. What about those Ikons they showed on air? Who gets to ride those ?
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11th June 2009, 11:51	#6
ahuja365 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jamshedpur Posts: 216 Thanked: 16 Times	As it is ford is manufactured in India nad after so many years it is highly localised so no question of american imports and morever fiesta is european rather than american coz they also do not have fiesta in their market.
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11th June 2009, 11:56	#7
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,979 Thanked: 2,406 Times View My Garage	Gosh, I saw a white Fiesta today with a beamer light on top today---and now I get to read this article!! Coincidence??
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11th June 2009, 12:02	#8
pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	It's such a farce to see them waste our tax money. Come on the amby would have done a better job of keeping them connected with the aam aadmi One evening, while waiting for a client at the lobby of 7 star at Delhi,I got to see quite a few of these national level political honchos coming for a party. They were not in their "official" transport. I guess all of you can fairly guess what their "personal" transports must be like. What's the point in going in for the Fiestas, Ikons, Toyotas when they don't come close to the comfort levels of their wives cars or their sons cars or those of their kith and kin? Might as well just use those and burden us with fuel allowances.. Last edited by pranava999 : 11th June 2009 at 12:12.
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11th June 2009, 12:05	#9
deepclutch Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Muvattupuzha Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 164 Times	Since Amby is losing out in sarkar offices ,TATA should really consider bringing up a "sarkar gaadi" .Be Indian;Buy Indian .
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11th June 2009, 12:14	#10
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,895 Thanked: 8,152 Times Infractions: 0/1 (7)	fiesta limited edition @5,55,000* only. * limited edition will be regularly available for govt fleets.
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11th June 2009, 14:53	#15
akhilesh51 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jaipur, RAJ Posts: 631 Thanked: 339 Times	In Rajasthan: Ministers: Tata Safari 2.2 VTT EX Other Cabinet / Small Ministries: Tata Safari 2.2 VTT LX Magistrates : Maruti Baleno / Chevrolet Optra Magnum Beaurocrats: HM Ambassador / Tata Indigo Ex - Chief Minister (Vasundhara Raje) : Merc, Corolla, et al (On Govt. Expense) Current Chief Minister (Ashok Gehlot) : HM Ambassador
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