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Originally Posted by Randhawa @Zappo 100 bucks is not bad. Here in Chandigarh, they charge Rs250 for car wash. |
Definitely it is not bad if they charge that for a car wash. But the only problem here is that the car went for its regular paid service. And the wash part of it is built into the service cost if you look at the service cost break-up. So the 100 bucks for waxoyl treatment is an addition they have done on their own.
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Originally Posted by ACM Going through your posts, felt that the fault lies with certain TATA dealiers, the Rs. 100 Waxpol charge for example would be of a specific tata dealer, not all. |
Yes, but then every Tata dealer has his own tactics of pushing up the prices. In fact initially the SA wanted me to change all the oils filters etc although I told him that it was done at 40k service and this service does not need these changes if one looks at the service schedule in the owner's manual. He also added a CF-5 treatment for 555 bucks. Apparently it is mandatory now for Tata vehicles while servicing. Turns out that it is some nozzle cleaner which is imported from Poland or somewhere by a third party and they have put a sticker of "Tata Approved" on this can and the small 350 ml can costs that much! I just firmly said NO.
So obviously he had to add something somewhere. This he did in the final bill by putting in that Waxoyl treatment without even bothering to ask me. By the way the bill says its Waxoyl. Must be a close cousin of the Waxpol. By the way there was no polishing of the car done (Waxpol or any other). I was standing by the side when they washed and then mopped my car dry.
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Originally Posted by ACM Also though I agree that changing a wiper blade is something that is as good as zero effort, and they are already earning in the part cost, but if they do have to charge something then 50-75 bucks for labour is the way it has got to be. Sadly that is the cost of noting down and getting something done in a proper establishment. That said they should have do the wiper change for free. |
I will have absolutely no issues if they charge me 75 rupees labor if I walk in and ask them to replace the wiper blades. The problem is that when the car is being serviced and I am already paying the bigger charges small things like these where there is actually no effort involved in real sense can not be charged. At this rate tomorrow they may charge me 50 bucks if I tell them that one of the screws of the fascia is lose and needs tightening. Again, if I were to walk in and ask for tightening the screw they will be justified in asking for a minimum labor rate of 50 bucks. But during the service if they charge me separately for that then it is fleecing IMHO.
If you did not notice my earlier post in a different thread (link provided in the first post) they charged me 100 bucks in the last service for black smoke issue which should be a part of the service routine. And all that they did to address the black smoke is to floor the accelerator thrice to take out all the deposited soot in the muffler.
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Originally Posted by ACM Rear Wheel Bearing change is reasoable labourous and possibly a change of Rs. 500 is ok, but then a permium car can see the charge being increased to Rs. 1500 as well yet Rs. 900 plus for the Indica is expensive. |
I agree. And yet, the question is how reasonable is it on its own. I have brought the car in for service and you are doing the bearing change in the course of service for which you are anyhow charging me royally. On top of that another 950 bucks for this job alone? By the way, the bearing change took exactly 30 minutes on both the rear wheels. In comparison, for the whole day's effort in servicing the car wherein multiple people work on it the service labor cost is 650 rupees for minor service and 900 rupees or so for major service (oil change).
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Originally Posted by adityamunshi Even the labour costs for changing small gearbox parts etc. is out of the roof. I paid 1500 labour to change a ~200 rs gear linkage. Same thing also applies to clutch change, brake pads, etc. |
Gearbox work is always a labor intensive process and does cost high. I also believe that high-skill jobs should have a comparatively higher labor. And so the Gearbox job can be a costly affair as everyone (not all mechs) can do it.
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Originally Posted by AbhiJ My Indica V2 costed me more in maintainence and repair overall as compared to my Accent CRDi... a car which costs 1.75 times more ...
The labour cost is one thing, the main problem is quality of spares. The components are not long lasting hence replacements are more frequent ... |
My maintenance cost for the Indica has never been high. Only 2 big ticket works that my Indica NA ever needed was a brake-booster/assembly change (done in warranty) and FIP recalibration which was done FOC under extended warranty. Otherwise I do not think anything has ever failed or has needed anything major.
Even the labor charges I am talking about a 75 rupees here or 100 rupees there is not exactly something that pinches my pocket. It is more of ethics issue which pinches me more. I get a feeling of being licked when they put such silly charges in the bill. And that is where I have an issue.
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Originally Posted by CrackedHead @Zappo - Don't TASS mention what the standard hourly labor rate is ? |
TASS has published labor rates as well as part costs for most of the major and minor but regular works. However they do not have an hourly labor rate. I think Turnkey rates are always better than hourly rates. As you yourself experienced that always leaves a huge door open for the service guys to bill you as per their whimsies. If your car remains in the garage for 7 days say for want of a part you will never know when they bill you for 40 hours (7*8=56 hours) whether they really worked for those 40 hours on your car. For all that you know they may have actually worked only 5 hours.