Is tata doing a recall/Some sort of fix for older vehicles?

greenhorn · 8th February 2010, 09:42

Quote:

...Tata is planing to recall all
cars with Jerks, Vibrations, Engine problems for models after 2007...

Is this true ? My indica has all these problems, the first two being supposed to affect all indica/indigos.

deepclutch · 8th February 2010, 09:55

That's A Good News.Do the List have Indica Vista As well?

aaggoswami · 8th February 2010, 16:18

I dont think its worth taking this news seriously. Tata has till now not given even a single hint on this move. Next, their Vista AC problem, which is not minor in the first place, was not given an official recall. I think it was an ECU reset that was required.

Tata has sold more a lot of cars in this period, so again can they handle the recall ( if they have one ) effectively ?

Lets wait for some news from Tata's side.

DieselAddikt · 8th February 2010, 17:38

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Originally Posted by deepclutch

That's A Good News.Do the List have Indica Vista As well?

You have similar problems with the car ? If yes, can you provide a small description on that ?

deepclutch · 8th February 2010, 21:37

@Dieseladdikt:My Vista's A/C(Behr Compressor) is not so efficient in cooling Rear Passenger Compartment during Hot Humid Afternoon's.Concorde,Ernakulam Service Claims the Cooling is OK .But I and many others don't Feel So.As @aaggoswami pointed out ,A/C issue needs to be sorted out Satisfactorily by TATA ,Hence thought they will include Vista's too.

CliffHanger · 8th February 2010, 21:50

Good that you opened this thread. I left my car(Punto) for clutch save cylinder(CSC) replacement, which is to be done under warranty, in the showroom last saturday.

Apart from the reduction in clutch travel, I was taken by surprise when I noticed the following things.
1. The gear changes which used to be rubbery have become really solid now, no more rubbery feel.
2. The jerks that come up during gear change have gone, maybe because of CSC replacement, but I feel they have done something more to it.
3. The car has become less noisier. It used to be a clatter sound earlier but now it sounds like a humm.
4. I could perceive a lot of change which I'm not able to properly figure out and put in words.

I think Fiat too is doing such fixes.

DieselAddikt · 9th February 2010, 10:32

@deepclutch

I thought you were talking about vibrations and engine problems, which I found abnormal on a Vista. That is why I asked. I agree AC issue has to be sorted out. Luckily, my Vista has marginally better cooling. (touch wood)

greenhorn · 9th February 2010, 12:02

jerking/hunting at lower rpms is a known issue with the TDI engine, and no fix exists.

clevermax · 9th February 2010, 12:30

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

jerking/hunting at lower rpms is a known issue with the TDI engine, and no fix exists.

Well, try your luck... what if they replace the TDi engine with a Fiat MJD?

rjalihal · 9th February 2010, 12:50

I read quite a few replies here complaining of AC. Is it because it takes a long time to cool the car or is it a compressor issue, meaning it goes kaput soon?

greenhorn · 9th February 2010, 12:52

the vista has a known issue with the AC, and it has been fixed via firmware update. Check the indica vista problems thread for details

deepclutch · 9th February 2010, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenhorn

the vista has a known issue with the AC, and it has been fixed via firmware update. Check the indica vista problems thread for details

This is not done in many Vista's.I think TML sends Specialists who does these sort of works in Major TASS.For eg: Concorde,Ernakulam SA's has no Idea about this thing.
BTW ,Any Idea whether Vista's with BEHR Compressor is the Ones with these Cooling Issue? I think SUBROS is used in new Vista's.

kailashnj · 9th February 2010, 15:16

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Originally Posted by CliffHanger

Good that you opened this thread. I left my car(Punto) for clutch save cylinder(CSC) replacement, which is to be done under warranty, in the showroom last saturday.

Apart from the reduction in clutch travel, I was taken by surprise when I noticed the following things.
1. The gear changes which used to be rubbery have become really solid now, no more rubbery feel.
2. The jerks that come up during gear change have gone, maybe because of CSC replacement, but I feel they have done something more to it.
3. The car has become less noisier. It used to be a clatter sound earlier but now it sounds like a humm.
4. I could perceive a lot of change which I'm not able to properly figure out and put in words.

I think Fiat too is doing such fixes.

Hi Cliffhanger,

When you were referring to the change in clutch save cylinder replacement - is it for all the GPs in India as I have a GP too - NOV 2009 manufactured but I have not received any call for the change and I am not even aware of this change.

Has Fiat declared this change for everyone??

Regards,
Kailash

greenhorn · 9th February 2010, 16:43

kailash, cliffhanger,
This way please
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-recalled.html

Lets keep this to the discussion of a possible tata recall

varunroy · 13th February 2010, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepclutch

@Dieseladdikt:My Vista's A/C(Behr Compressor) is not so efficient in cooling Rear Passenger Compartment during Hot Humid Afternoon's.Concorde,Ernakulam Service Claims the Cooling is OK .But I and many others don't Feel So.As @aaggoswami pointed out ,A/C issue needs to be sorted out Satisfactorily by TATA ,Hence thought they will include Vista's too.

Ask the TSC to do a AC grille test. Insert the probe of the temp guage into the grille duct. Keep the thermo to the coolest setting and go for a trial. It should read 4 degrees for cars and about 6 degrees for bigger SUVs if not lesser in about a minute, no matter what compressor it has. If it reads more, then your AC is inefficient and that can bite into your pocket where FE is concerned.

Secondly, there's no word as "RECALL" in the Tata Motors Dictionary.

So long.....

8th February 2010, 09:55	#2
deepclutch Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Muvattupuzha Posts: 1,165 Thanked: 162 Times	That's A Good News.Do the List have Indica Vista As well?
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8th February 2010, 16:18	#3
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	I dont think its worth taking this news seriously. Tata has till now not given even a single hint on this move. Next, their Vista AC problem, which is not minor in the first place, was not given an official recall. I think it was an ECU reset that was required. Tata has sold more a lot of cars in this period, so again can they handle the recall ( if they have one ) effectively ? Lets wait for some news from Tata's side.
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8th February 2010, 21:37	#5
deepclutch Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Muvattupuzha Posts: 1,165 Thanked: 162 Times	@Dieseladdikt:My Vista's A/C(Behr Compressor) is not so efficient in cooling Rear Passenger Compartment during Hot Humid Afternoon's.Concorde,Ernakulam Service Claims the Cooling is OK .But I and many others don't Feel So.As @aaggoswami pointed out ,A/C issue needs to be sorted out Satisfactorily by TATA ,Hence thought they will include Vista's too.
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8th February 2010, 21:50	#6
CliffHanger BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 756 Thanked: 1,597 Times	Good that you opened this thread. I left my car(Punto) for clutch save cylinder(CSC) replacement, which is to be done under warranty, in the showroom last saturday. Apart from the reduction in clutch travel, I was taken by surprise when I noticed the following things. 1. The gear changes which used to be rubbery have become really solid now, no more rubbery feel. 2. The jerks that come up during gear change have gone, maybe because of CSC replacement, but I feel they have done something more to it. 3. The car has become less noisier. It used to be a clatter sound earlier but now it sounds like a humm. 4. I could perceive a lot of change which I'm not able to properly figure out and put in words. I think Fiat too is doing such fixes.
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9th February 2010, 10:32	#7
DieselAddikt BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 588 Thanked: 952 Times View My Garage	@deepclutch I thought you were talking about vibrations and engine problems, which I found abnormal on a Vista. That is why I asked. I agree AC issue has to be sorted out. Luckily, my Vista has marginally better cooling. (touch wood)
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9th February 2010, 12:02	#8
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	jerking/hunting at lower rpms is a known issue with the TDI engine, and no fix exists.
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9th February 2010, 12:50	#10
rjalihal BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 713 Thanked: 100 Times	I read quite a few replies here complaining of AC. Is it because it takes a long time to cool the car or is it a compressor issue, meaning it goes kaput soon?
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9th February 2010, 12:52	#11
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	the vista has a known issue with the AC, and it has been fixed via firmware update. Check the indica vista problems thread for details
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9th February 2010, 16:43	#14
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,401 Times View My Garage	kailash, cliffhanger, This way please http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-recalled.html Lets keep this to the discussion of a possible tata recall
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