Logan will not die; Cheaper, shorter, improved Logan expected

designersf · 18th March 2010, 13:59

Those images are fake for the following reasons

1. Look at the body shine on the bootlid. Also concentrate on the position of the logo - It is whitened in MS paint I guess.
2. Same shine on the rear quarter panel in the second picture - Doesnt it look artificial? Why are the rear lamps not visible in the second picture?
3.The give-away is this - Look at the profile of the rear in the two pictures - The first one looks like there is a flat piece on the boot while in the second, it looks like it tapers and then turns vertical.
4. Moreover, the Logan CS (if called so) is meant only for India. So why test it abroad? That too why winter tests on a vehicle that has already proven itself?
5. Finally - Why would they test such a vehicle with no camouflage at all??

I'm afraid that this is the work of a guy sitting with photoshop.

raghavanrv · 18th March 2010, 14:05

Logans biggest issue is its looks. Going by that pic, it looks outdated. I guess, It will not stand a chance.

blackasta · 18th March 2010, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by anekho

Why?

Notchback's typically have much more boot space than conventional sedans! Take a look at skoda laura and you'll know what I mean!

I have never seen a notchback taxi anywhere - our cabbies may not understand the idea

. Thus the comment.

Sudan_NFS · 18th March 2010, 15:10

This move will not fetch them the volume they want it can only increase their volumes to few hundreds.If they really want to generate volumes then they need to make a big changes to the car exterior and interior.

Yusha · 18th March 2010, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbhiJ

Give me a hammer and I ll make the logan look better!!

They should really facelife the logan if they want the car to sell..

+1

It looks like a breadbox on wheels though nothing as such is wrong with the car. I have never understood why it has'nt done well in the market. Its affordable, efficient, ok engines and space. It still lags behind.

agspins · 18th March 2010, 17:06

Even i think those images are PS-ed,but in a nutshell you stretch it or squeeze it, result is same ugly..

GTO · 19th March 2010, 10:24

I can't decide whether to phrase this news item as "management blindness" or "too little too late". Reviving a failed product in India, 4 years after launch, is an incredibly uphill task. Plus, the Logan looked outdated at the time of launch and looks even more outdated today. The game has moved on. Just look at what the Tata Manza offers for LESS $$$ than the Logan. Is THIS Renault's reply to the Manza?

Renault would do good in not throwing good money after bad, and moving on. The Logan is finished. Time to bring in truly modern products and - importantly - price them well to start with. Flogging a dead horse like the Logan is only going to cost them brand equity.

P.S. : Whoever thought up the Logan's pricing strategy should be fired (if not already).

coldice4u · 22nd March 2010, 15:33

The BSM guys have a pic of the new logan CS. Check the link ...

SCOOP! : Logan CS snapped!

Its still ugly!!! May be more

chennai-indian · 22nd March 2010, 15:36

Oh God !! are the Renault guys brain dead? Looks uglier than the current Logan

What is it with these French companies?

MuraliR · 22nd March 2010, 15:38

Looks like somebody has hit it hard from behind - they could have atleast tried better tail lamps.

Maybe the 1.2L 80bhp engine is a saviour?

CARDEEP · 22nd March 2010, 15:55

Renault Logan CS inspired from the Tata Indigo CS...

A case of reverse inspiration. Till now the Asian companies were copying Western cars' design & tech. Now it is the vice versa for survival in a competitive market with old product instead of the latest one.

Renault management could have introduced own car (instead of that from subsidiary) to gain market share in India. But, all appears that they are presently confused about their Indian market strategy & partners. Mahindra, Bajaj, small car, micro car,... & the list goes on.

WindRide · 22nd March 2010, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldice4u

The BSM guys have a pic of the new logan CS. Check the link ...

SCOOP! : Logan CS snapped!

Its still ugly!!! May be more

AND its already gathering DUST ...

Amartya · 23rd March 2010, 02:12

What a hideous contraption. The Indigo CS's chop job made the Indigo look better. It had better designed tail-lamps that gelled with the design.

This is a piece of crap. My respect for Carlos Ghosn that was already at a low (after the Logan's launch) just hit rock bottom. Maybe it's because I dislike the Micra too

(not because of it's engineering, but the way it looks).

karpusv · 23rd March 2010, 10:25

Somehow the BSM pics also doesnt look genuine to me.
Too hazy background, not very clear lines defining boot line near rear glass..
And what is it? a Notchback? The glass is the same as the C/G Logan. Then how does it open?

ashutoshb · 23rd March 2010, 10:27

This is a photoshopped pic.

- The new Logans have larger ORVMs, this one carries the older ones.
- Lines in some places are distorted or missing.
- The bottom right side of the bumper is lower than the left.
- The length of the Logan is 4.2 m, they need it to shorten it to 4m. Why would they chop off the whole boot, when it can be done just by shortening the bumpers.
- No camouflage.. plus why would they carelessly park it in a parking lot?

18th March 2010, 13:59	#16
designersf BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 603 Thanked: 80 Times	Those images are fake for the following reasons 1. Look at the body shine on the bootlid. Also concentrate on the position of the logo - It is whitened in MS paint I guess. 2. Same shine on the rear quarter panel in the second picture - Doesnt it look artificial? Why are the rear lamps not visible in the second picture? 3.The give-away is this - Look at the profile of the rear in the two pictures - The first one looks like there is a flat piece on the boot while in the second, it looks like it tapers and then turns vertical. 4. Moreover, the Logan CS (if called so) is meant only for India. So why test it abroad? That too why winter tests on a vehicle that has already proven itself? 5. Finally - Why would they test such a vehicle with no camouflage at all?? I'm afraid that this is the work of a guy sitting with photoshop.
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18th March 2010, 14:05	#17
raghavanrv BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 32 Thanked: 0 Times	Logans biggest issue is its looks. Going by that pic, it looks outdated. I guess, It will not stand a chance.
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18th March 2010, 15:10	#19
Sudan_NFS BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: chennai Posts: 759 Thanked: 16 Times	This move will not fetch them the volume they want it can only increase their volumes to few hundreds.If they really want to generate volumes then they need to make a big changes to the car exterior and interior.
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18th March 2010, 17:06	#21
agspins Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MH-31 Posts: 1,653 Thanked: 508 Times View My Garage	Even i think those images are PS-ed,but in a nutshell you stretch it or squeeze it, result is same ugly..
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19th March 2010, 10:24	#22
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,767 Times View My Garage	I can't decide whether to phrase this news item as "management blindness" or "too little too late". Reviving a failed product in India, 4 years after launch, is an incredibly uphill task. Plus, the Logan looked outdated at the time of launch and looks even more outdated today. The game has moved on. Just look at what the Tata Manza offers for LESS $$$ than the Logan. Is THIS Renault's reply to the Manza? Renault would do good in not throwing good money after bad, and moving on. The Logan is finished. Time to bring in truly modern products and - importantly - price them well to start with. Flogging a dead horse like the Logan is only going to cost them brand equity. P.S. : Whoever thought up the Logan's pricing strategy should be fired (if not already). Last edited by GTO : 19th March 2010 at 10:25.
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22nd March 2010, 15:33	#23
coldice4u BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 374 Thanked: 724 Times	Logan CS .... Its real!!! The BSM guys have a pic of the new logan CS. Check the link ... SCOOP! : Logan CS snapped! Its still ugly!!! May be more
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22nd March 2010, 15:36	#24
chennai-indian BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 437 Thanked: 641 Times	Oh God !! are the Renault guys brain dead? Looks uglier than the current Logan What is it with these French companies?
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22nd March 2010, 15:38	#25
MuraliR BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 361 Thanked: 35 Times	Looks like somebody has hit it hard from behind - they could have atleast tried better tail lamps. Maybe the 1.2L 80bhp engine is a saviour?
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22nd March 2010, 15:55	#26
CARDEEP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NCR Posts: 3,248 Thanked: 2,522 Times	Renault Logan CS inspired from the Tata Indigo CS... A case of reverse inspiration. Till now the Asian companies were copying Western cars' design & tech. Now it is the vice versa for survival in a competitive market with old product instead of the latest one. Renault management could have introduced own car (instead of that from subsidiary) to gain market share in India. But, all appears that they are presently confused about their Indian market strategy & partners. Mahindra, Bajaj, small car, micro car,... & the list goes on.
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23rd March 2010, 02:12	#28
Amartya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Evanston Posts: 1,748 Thanked: 736 Times	What a hideous contraption. The Indigo CS's chop job made the Indigo look better. It had better designed tail-lamps that gelled with the design. This is a piece of crap. My respect for Carlos Ghosn that was already at a low (after the Logan's launch) just hit rock bottom. Maybe it's because I dislike the Micra too (not because of it's engineering, but the way it looks).
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23rd March 2010, 10:25	#29
karpusv BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: BLR / NGO Posts: 291 Thanked: 186 Times	Somehow the BSM pics also doesnt look genuine to me. Too hazy background, not very clear lines defining boot line near rear glass.. And what is it? a Notchback? The glass is the same as the C/G Logan. Then how does it open?
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23rd March 2010, 10:27	#30
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,760 Thanked: 4,291 Times View My Garage	This is a photoshopped pic. - The new Logans have larger ORVMs, this one carries the older ones. - Lines in some places are distorted or missing. - The bottom right side of the bumper is lower than the left. - The length of the Logan is 4.2 m, they need it to shorten it to 4m. Why would they chop off the whole boot, when it can be done just by shortening the bumpers. - No camouflage.. plus why would they carelessly park it in a parking lot? Attached Thumbnails
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