proposed salon car racing series

Mpower · 25th September 2006, 22:57

If I were to run this, I'd pick a Swift, OHC-1.3 or the good old Esteem.

Flair and Getz dont really stand a chance because they are not 4 valve motors, unless they get some other concession.

manson · 26th September 2006, 00:39

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Originally Posted by Mpower

they get some other concession.

yeah, something like a 20% handicap could possibly see them get somewhere

manson.

v1p3r · 26th September 2006, 01:46

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Originally Posted by manson

yeah, something like a 20% handicap could possibly see them get somewhere

Obviously you've not seen what a well-driven NA Getz can do.

will be

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manson · 26th September 2006, 08:52

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Obviously you've not seen what a well-driven NA Getz can do.

will be

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these past couple of years we have had really LONG thread on which car is faster, now please don't start off with drivers.
i would like to tell you that my previous statement had an assumption of keeping all other parameters but the car, Constant.

manson.

p.s. I know which getz you're talking about, put the man in a beter car you will be

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v1p3r · 26th September 2006, 14:06

No no, the Getz is bad enough. I don't want to face him in another car!!! My jaw dropped when he overtook me.

viper · 26th September 2006, 16:03

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

No no, the Getz is bad enough. I don't want to face him in another car!!! My jaw dropped when he overtook me.

Hi,

You guys referring to JD and his machine by any chance.

Viper

memo45_m · 27th September 2006, 11:16

hey i think its time the saloon class was upped from the 1300cc............. make 4 different class 1300... 1600... 1800... 2000...(for those who want to put the big cars in)... keep the rules may be like this engine open but no over bore, ecu's free, company approved suspension, and i do agree with what psycho says abt point 5...............

TheDoc · 27th September 2006, 15:51

If u increase the number of classes, organisation becomes harder. Time taken on the track is more. And the number of participants per class will decrease. The last thing we want is 2 or 3 cars per class, right?

SkiN46 · 27th September 2006, 18:03

when will these races start?

memo45_m · 27th September 2006, 18:32

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

If u increase the number of classes, organisation becomes harder. Time taken on the track is more. And the number of participants per class will decrease. The last thing we want is 2 or 3 cars per class, right?

i agree with what you have to say but look at the number of cars that can run the 1600 class, and the 1800 class there r enough partcipants as far as i know who r interested but the only cath is the way the pricing is per race and what is the costs we have to incur for a seasons run..................

v1p3r · 27th September 2006, 19:45

Why not have a power/weight ratio as the deciding factor? Then you can forget about cc-based classification.

heelntoe · 27th September 2006, 20:08

well that could work if we knew how much power a car is making. if it was stock, then it would be easy. but with modded cars and lack of dyno facilities it will be hard.

v1p3r · 28th September 2006, 00:20

I meant stock company-claimed power output, man. Modding is left to the owners.

That would place a 500kg, 50 bhp car in the same league as a 1 tonne, 100 bhp one. Just an example, of course.

cinclaturbo · 28th September 2006, 01:12

are custom chassis-cars allowed ???..sticking to the weight restrictions.....from what i heard i think it will be allowed.
How about a mid engined getz??

v1p3r · 28th September 2006, 03:23

Ok, this is getting interesting!!!

But then again, custom chassis is very hard to differentiate from engine swap, in some cases. And methinks mid-engined Getz would warrant an engine swap. Or would it?

25th September 2006, 22:57	#16
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	If I were to run this, I'd pick a Swift, OHC-1.3 or the good old Esteem. Flair and Getz dont really stand a chance because they are not 4 valve motors, unless they get some other concession.
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26th September 2006, 14:06	#20
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	No no, the Getz is bad enough. I don't want to face him in another car!!! My jaw dropped when he overtook me.
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27th September 2006, 11:16	#22
memo45_m BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 299 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	hey i think its time the saloon class was upped from the 1300cc............. make 4 different class 1300... 1600... 1800... 2000...(for those who want to put the big cars in)... keep the rules may be like this engine open but no over bore, ecu's free, company approved suspension, and i do agree with what psycho says abt point 5...............
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27th September 2006, 15:51	#23
TheDoc BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 50 Thanked: Once View My Garage	If u increase the number of classes, organisation becomes harder. Time taken on the track is more. And the number of participants per class will decrease. The last thing we want is 2 or 3 cars per class, right?
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27th September 2006, 18:03	#24
SkiN46 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	when will these races start?
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27th September 2006, 19:45	#26
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Why not have a power/weight ratio as the deciding factor? Then you can forget about cc-based classification.
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27th September 2006, 20:08	#27
heelntoe BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: navi mumbai Posts: 240 Thanked: Once	well that could work if we knew how much power a car is making. if it was stock, then it would be easy. but with modded cars and lack of dyno facilities it will be hard.
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28th September 2006, 00:20	#28
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	I meant stock company-claimed power output, man. Modding is left to the owners. That would place a 500kg, 50 bhp car in the same league as a 1 tonne, 100 bhp one. Just an example, of course.
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28th September 2006, 01:12	#29
cinclaturbo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 185 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	are custom chassis-cars allowed ???..sticking to the weight restrictions.....from what i heard i think it will be allowed. How about a mid engined getz??
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28th September 2006, 03:23	#30
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Ok, this is getting interesting!!! But then again, custom chassis is very hard to differentiate from engine swap, in some cases. And methinks mid-engined Getz would warrant an engine swap. Or would it? Last edited by v1p3r : 28th September 2006 at 03:24.
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