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Old 29th November 2018, 12:28   #16
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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

A little late to the party, but let me chime in with my observations on the new 911 (code named the 992):

Highlights:

1) Porsche normally unveils the Carrera and Carrera S at first, and then brings in the other models such as the all-wheel-drive Carrera 4, Carrera 4S, the Cabriolets, etc. However this time 'round, Porsche has unveiled the all-wheel-drive models along with the two-wheel-drive models!

2) It's marginally larger than the 991.1 and 991.2 generations of the 911. It's a bit heavier too, and that's due to additional components in the exhausts that have been mandated by emission norms. Adding weight to improve emissions? Bit strange eh, how that works!

3) It retains the 991.2 911 Carrera's 3.0 turbocharged engine. All 911 models in the range will be turbocharged, except for the GT3 / GT3 RS. Andreas P. has confirmed that the GT3 / 3 RS will be naturally aspirated!

4) There's a new 8-speed PDK and the gear lever has been replaced by a little toggle switch. A manual transmission has been confirmed as well.

5) The 992's architecture has been designed to accommodate a hybrid drivetrain in the future. So we could expect the facelift i.e. the 992.2 to have hybrid tech.

Noteworthy Details:

1) The overall design hasn't changed much, but there are details that set it apart from the previous generation 911. The front end has been revised and looks a bit sharper, with character lines on the deck-lid and a straight face. It even has cooling flaps that open and shut when required.

2) The side profile hasn't changed much where as the rear is where changes are significant. The introduction of one single light-bar in red harks back to older 911s, and Porsche lettering in bold is now nestled within the light-bar housing. The bumper area below the lights are cleaner, but the area below that looks fussy and crowded with air-vents situated aft the rear wheel arches and exhaust pipes that are mounted on either side of the number plate and routed through the rear bumper instead of under it. I would have preferred the exhaust pipes to be mounted lower and slightly wider off the number plate ideally. Oh, and the rear deck-lid houses an additional brake light (looks questionable) and the rear windscreen looks like it flows along with the air-ducts as one piece. Not a fan.

3) The rear deck-lid spoiler is much wider now and has various stages of deployment and angle of attack depending on the mode you are in. A Panamera-style origami folding rear spoiler would have been a nice addition here, and would have added a bit of drama and theatre to the otherwise boring 911. But alas..

4) The interior is all new and heavily inspired by the Panamera. Gone are the physically defined 5-pod gauge clusters and in come a barrage of screens. They have retained the centrally located RPM counter in its physical form, but the screens flanking the rev counter now provide a virtual 5-pod interface that mimics the 5-dial setup that 911s are famous for. There is an additional large infotainment screen in the central console for added interaction. The lower part of the console is still raised like the old gen car, and that's a good thing!

5) Gone are the over-engineered cup holders that used to be housed within a metal bar on the passenger side of the dashboard. There is one dedicated cup-holder for the driver located at the central tunnel, and the passenger's cup holder pops out from underneath the dedicated passenger vent on the other side of the dashboard.

6) There is more space on the inside now, albeit marginally. Overall quality of the materials used in the interior has improved, although it doesn't require much improvement.

Finer Points:

1) Door handles now sit flush with the bodywork and pop out when it senses the key within close proximity of the car.

2) Quad exhausts represent the standard exhaust setup on the Carrera. Dual oval exhausts would mean the car is equipped with PSE (Porsche Sports Exhaust).

3) There are even more options to choose from in the configurator. You can finally specify your 911 in two shades of Green, including Lizard Green (launch colour for the 991.2 GT3 RS) and a darker green. If you're a fan of green, you don't need to take the PTS (Paint to Sample) route any longer! You could even get green leather on the inside without using Porsche Exclusive and if you don't like the look of the yellow brake calipers on the Ceramic Brakes (PCCB) option, you could spec them to be finished in black!

4) Acoustic sensors attached to the front axle is designed to pick up wet conditions and when it does, it automatically puts the car in its wet road setting which alters the suspension and activates traction and stability controls! Nifty touch!

5) Rear axle steering continues to be an option on all variants, just like on the 991.2, as are most other features like dynamic engine mounts, etc.

6) The most noteworthy little detail: Earlier, the wide body (extra flared rear wheel arches) was reserved only for the AWD models. Now, all Carreras, irrespective of AWD or RWD / Carrera S or Carrera 4S, will come with the wide body design.

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Old 30th November 2018, 11:18   #17
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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

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1) Porsche normally unveils the Carrera and Carrera S at first, and then brings in the other models such as the all-wheel-drive Carrera 4, Carrera 4S, the Cabriolets, etc. However this time 'round, Porsche has unveiled the all-wheel-drive models along with the two-wheel-drive models!

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Porsches way of cutting costs by having one launch event

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4) There's a new 8-speed PDK and the gear lever has been replaced by a little toggle switch. A manual transmission has been confirmed as well.
Us macho folks will miss the phallic significance of this
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5) The 992's architecture has been designed to accommodate a hybrid drivetrain in the future. So we could expect the facelift i.e. the 992.2 to have hybrid tech.
Imagine how crappy the brakes will feel when regenerating. Why?

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5) Gone are the over-engineered cup holders that used to be housed within a metal bar on the passenger side of the dashboard. There is one dedicated cup-holder for the driver located at the central tunnel, and the passenger's cup holder pops out from underneath the dedicated passenger vent on the other side of the dashboard.
Costs of Dieselgate has really trumped pure engineering

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4) Acoustic sensors attached to the front axle is designed to pick up wet conditions and when it does, it automatically puts the car in its wet road setting which alters the suspension and activates traction and stability controls! Nifty touch!
Just hope my dog does not marks its territory on the car in the morning!

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6) The most noteworthy little detail: Earlier, the wide body (extra flared rear wheel arches) was reserved only for the AWD models. Now, all Carreras, irrespective of AWD or RWD / Carrera S or Carrera 4S, will come with the wide body design
Is there any way to distinguish between the models?
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Old 30th November 2018, 13:22   #18
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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

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Porsches way of cutting costs by having one launch event
It could also be the shortening of the product life-cycle. I believe the 992 GT3 will make an appearance, along with all the other cars such as the Cabriolets, Targas, etc. a lot sooner than expected.

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Us macho folks will miss the phallic significance of this


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Imagine how crappy the brakes will feel when regenerating. Why?
Although my hopes aren't up, one could hope the new tech doesn't numb sensation and driver-tech interaction is enhanced.

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Just hope my dog does not marks its territory on the car in the morning!


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Is there any way to distinguish between the models?
Unfortunately, nope.

On the earlier models, only the AWD models came with the red strip on the back. Now, all 911s will come with this strip!

On the 992, you could tell the difference between the S and the non-S models by looking at the brakes. Usually, the non-S models are equipped with smaller rotors and the smaller calipers are finished in black instead of red on the S. But that's about it!

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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

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1) Porsche normally unveils the Carrera and Carrera S at first, and then brings in the other models such as the all-wheel-drive Carrera 4, Carrera 4S, the Cabriolets, etc. However this time 'round, Porsche has unveiled the all-wheel-drive models along with the two-wheel-drive models!
I think the reason might be this detail below in your post itself.

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6) The most noteworthy little detail: Earlier, the wide body (extra flared rear wheel arches) was reserved only for the AWD models. Now, all Carreras, irrespective of AWD or RWD / Carrera S or Carrera 4S, will come with the wide body design.
Porsche looks to be streamlining all the variants - not a fan of that certainly. I loved these little details which made each variant a bit different. Sure, this is more efficient but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, the purity quotient is unfortunately coming down with each iteration.

And one of the biggest sticking point is that lousy gear shifter of the PDK. It looks like a smart key - doesn't really doesn't belong to a 911. And that along with the digital gauges and missing buttons on the console for the different settings. Anyways, guess I will stop here.

Here is Henry with all that detail and more on the 992.
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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

The new gen Porsche 911 launched in India,

The CarreraS costs Rs. 1.82 crore while the CarreraS Cabriolet is priced at Rs. 1.99 crore (ex-showroom India)

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the engine on offer 3.0-litre flat-six, turbo petrol engine, 444 bhp on offer and that's 30 bhp more than before
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comes with an 8-speed dual clutch transmission
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Big improvement in the department of powertrains makes the 911 a faster and agile car. 0-100 kmph in 4.1 seconds with the Sports Chrono package you can shave 0.2
2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked-1.jpg

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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

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The CarreraS costs Rs. 1.82 crore while the CarreraS Cabriolet is priced at Rs. 1.99 crore (ex-showroom India)
That will get you only necessary things, options, as usual, comes at a Price have a look.

2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked-1.jpeg

Porsche World Road Show

For the First time in India, probably they are doing a World Road Show in India. Prospects can have a go at the cars around BIC starting tomorrow, details follow


2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked-3.jpeg

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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

Porsche 911 Carrera With Naturally Aspirated Engine Ruled Out.

The head of Porsche’s GT production sports cars, Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, revealed, The 4-liter engine in the GTS can’t be rotated through 180 degrees to fit in the 911. We will not see them again [naturally aspirated engines in the Carrera models]. I’m sorry about that.

https://www.motor1.com/news/424023/n...lly-aspirated/
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Re: 2019 next-gen Porsche 911 leaked

992 Porsche 911 Targa 4S review by Motorweek.

Targa models overlap with 911 cabriolet models IMO. Both seem to offer the same value proposition only difference mainly being the styling.

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