Most Problematic Cars

Sahil · 2nd September 2005, 15:34

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Originally Posted by dadudeonfire

i guess this sahils gonna be the only dude who will be voting for german...and american should have been out...as all of us are going to vote for american

Well not really....... alot of merc owners here have had bad experiences too.......i voted for germans hands down because of my experience with german cars have owned 3 till date - astra,corsa and mercedes. I was under the impression that BMW is most reliable out of the german lot but i think i was wrong, I study in boston and my cousin has a new 545i, the car has had several problems over the past year. In the past one week the car has come up with a failed ac and a steering problem! Previous problems have been ever worse some including engine problems and even braking down in the middle of the freeway! So germans are at the top of my list for sure.

GrimReaper · 2nd September 2005, 15:36

You forgot THE most problematic cars ever. The italians.
They produce some of the best machines on this planet but suck for build quality.
Lamborghini, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo. NONE of them are in the least bit reliable.

But between these choices my pick would be probably American or Korean cars like everyone else

Samurai · 2nd September 2005, 19:47

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Originally Posted by dadudeonfire

i guess this sahils gonna be the only dude who will be voting for german...and american should have been out...as all of us are going to vote for american

I think sahil going by his experience and you are going by perception.

I own/owned 5 Japanese (toyota,Acura,3 Suzuki), 2 American (Chevy/Ford), and one Korean (Hyundai). My best experience has been with Acura and Chevy (Malibu).
Worst experience has been with Ford, but that car had more than 120K miles on it. Never owned any European cars though.

GTO · 2nd September 2005, 21:39

The "new age" Germans - Undoubtedly. American cars are not as complicated when it comes to electronics. Hell, some of them yet use pushrods.

I disagree that korean cars are problematic (especially the post 2000 year designs). They are very very close to the Japanese in reliability.

GTO

BUSA · 2nd September 2005, 23:28

I guess its the Germans, since they have loads of gadgetry in them.

Did any one miss out india in the poll.. LOL

cream · 3rd September 2005, 00:23

sahil, maybe you can broaden the scope of this poll - because it really is a good one. once and for all, we'll know what public opinion is on problematic cars - so we must include countrywise all the cars that are available in india from all over the world.

and then, we can get a better idea. if indian manufacturers are the worst, then so be it...at least we will know who is 2nd and 3rd worst and so on...

Sahil · 3rd September 2005, 04:36

@cream - I am sorry buddy the thread doesnt let me edit, mods will have to do that.

vandan · 3rd September 2005, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Hey how about Indian? The most problematic we had was TATA estate and an old Ambassador diesel.

dude how could you forget the first few indica's!!!

BUSA · 3rd September 2005, 19:30

It will be unfair to blame American cars only, look at tata safari it still suffers from many flaws. Still build quality is not that great i mean the DICOR version(even after 7 yrs in market) and look at the Scorpio well built though its younger then the safari. Tata is making cars for the rural jungle and not the urban market..

Indica was pathetic till V2 came and tata estate need i say more.

Another poor indian car is the San Strom Yuk poor paint job!! What will be the machinery??

Deeps · 7th September 2005, 19:34

The Americans by far!! As GTO said, the Koreans are matching the Japanese at least in terms of reliability. And yes, Lancias, Alfas and some Fiats are also very poor in terms of quality as well as Citroens.

vinod · 7th September 2005, 23:17

Suprised to see America leading the poll for the worst cars..... I'd say its more like Korea..... America has the mighty GM which includes.... and the cadiallac... True that american's can't do interiors or styling.... but they are reliable.... more than the koreans anyway....

sajo · 8th September 2005, 00:04

I have voted American, but some GM/Ford vehicles are incredibly durable. I mean their full sized V8 engined rear wheel drive cars (Caprice/Crown Vic etc). Most of them are pressed into police/taxi duties, and have mileage as high as 300,000 miles. And they pretty much live on and on. I say, Ford/GM tried to change and modernise their cars, and lost the plot along the way

. They are better off building full sized RWD extremely lowtech cars, which pretty much do the one thing they are designed for, exist on and on.

View Poll Results: Which country makes the most problematic cars?
Germany	6	10.71%
Japan	2	3.57%
Korea	15	26.79%
America	33	58.93%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

2nd September 2005, 15:36	#17
GrimReaper BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 261 Thanked: 0 Times	You forgot THE most problematic cars ever. The italians. They produce some of the best machines on this planet but suck for build quality. Lamborghini, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo. NONE of them are in the least bit reliable. But between these choices my pick would be probably American or Korean cars like everyone else
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2nd September 2005, 21:39	#19
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,788 Times View My Garage	The "new age" Germans - Undoubtedly. American cars are not as complicated when it comes to electronics. Hell, some of them yet use pushrods. I disagree that korean cars are problematic (especially the post 2000 year designs). They are very very close to the Japanese in reliability. GTO
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2nd September 2005, 23:28	#20
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	I guess its the Germans, since they have loads of gadgetry in them. Did any one miss out india in the poll.. LOL
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3rd September 2005, 00:23	#21
cream BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 159 Thanked: 3 Times	sahil, maybe you can broaden the scope of this poll - because it really is a good one. once and for all, we'll know what public opinion is on problematic cars - so we must include countrywise all the cars that are available in india from all over the world. and then, we can get a better idea. if indian manufacturers are the worst, then so be it...at least we will know who is 2nd and 3rd worst and so on...
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3rd September 2005, 04:36	#22
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	@cream - I am sorry buddy the thread doesnt let me edit, mods will have to do that.
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3rd September 2005, 19:30	#24
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	It will be unfair to blame American cars only, look at tata safari it still suffers from many flaws. Still build quality is not that great i mean the DICOR version(even after 7 yrs in market) and look at the Scorpio well built though its younger then the safari. Tata is making cars for the rural jungle and not the urban market.. Indica was pathetic till V2 came and tata estate need i say more. Another poor indian car is the San Strom Yuk poor paint job!! What will be the machinery??
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7th September 2005, 19:34	#25
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	The Americans by far!! As GTO said, the Koreans are matching the Japanese at least in terms of reliability. And yes, Lancias, Alfas and some Fiats are also very poor in terms of quality as well as Citroens.
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7th September 2005, 23:17	#26
vinod BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 131 Thanked: 9 Times	Suprised to see America leading the poll for the worst cars..... I'd say its more like Korea..... America has the mighty GM which includes.... and the cadiallac... True that american's can't do interiors or styling.... but they are reliable.... more than the koreans anyway....
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8th September 2005, 00:04	#27
sajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,625 Thanked: 1,153 Times	I have voted American, but some GM/Ford vehicles are incredibly durable. I mean their full sized V8 engined rear wheel drive cars (Caprice/Crown Vic etc). Most of them are pressed into police/taxi duties, and have mileage as high as 300,000 miles. And they pretty much live on and on. I say, Ford/GM tried to change and modernise their cars, and lost the plot along the way . They are better off building full sized RWD extremely lowtech cars, which pretty much do the one thing they are designed for, exist on and on. Last edited by sajo : 8th September 2005 at 00:06.
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