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Originally Posted by ashran2 Imho the nsx is an exotic in every sense, it the only jap car mentioned in the same breath as Ferrari, porsche's and lambo's. even now it can teach these carmakers a thing or two about handling finnesse and buildquality. let us see your peice of crap c6 z06, with 7lt only 505bhp and still its just few seconds ahead of nsx-r on the ring which is powered by 286bhp and hardly any torque as compared to many of rivals.
Also have u ever touched a zo6 body it just plastic and crumples and bend whenever you touch it whereas NSX is handmade alumunium.
NSX mid engined where as corvette is Front engined.
NSX is all about handling and whereas corvette i as all about big numbers
GM all about marketing and big power numbers and Honda according to the Ferrari(yup) is the best engineering company on the planet today.
lets talk about heritage off both these cars corvette was produced to compete with mustang (no high standards here) and NSX was made to compete with Ferrari of those time and at the time HONDA and MClaren were ruling F1. Aryton Senna himself was responsible partly in development of the car just as schumacher was with Ferrari Enzo(f60)
corvette and nsx are 2 very different cars.
Corvette Z06 or whatever is a sportscar where as nsx is super car an exotic.
Imho the GTR and supra appeal to very different customers as compared to nsx.
Even a stock R33 gtr can do a lap under 8 minutes on the RING
and no corvette c6, c5 (z06 is different) can do that.
Every one knows that a ordinary japanese sports can outhandle the finest american sportcars.
and even in europe people respect a nice japanese car. cause they know that they are good and in some case better. |
Just goes to show your ignorance..
Have you ever been in an NSX, well i have, and you talk about me touching a Z06...well my C6 was made today and should be with me in about a weeks time and as for the Z06 I have my money on it along with the R35 GTR for 2008...
Now for NSX-R..do you know the base price? 462k????? thats freaking more expensive than any lambo and almost as expensive as an F50...the only reason NSX is taken in the same breath as a ferrari is because of its small production number...15000 made i think since its production started back 14-15 years ago..
NSX-R is a race bred car..with no ammenities..what Z06 is a full on sports car with the ammenities from a mercedes benz...now thats the diff and let me not start with the price..ok I never compare price because all products have a different target market..but Z06 is a far superior machine to NSX-R period..280hp of the nsx-r could very well be under rated...the reason vette uses a 7lt to achieve 505hp is because of the simplicity in the engine and also because you could own the only supercar in the world with no GAS GUZZLER TAX in the world...yeah I have seen DICs of Z06s which read 31.3mpg on a long distance trip..now show me that on an NSX-R..oh wait..it isnt possible...not even 1/2 of that...and then take that same civic style efficient engine to the track and you would destroy most cars save Enzo and CGT...if NSX-R is made out of aluminum so is the Z06 aluminum, carbon fire and no what you saw in topgear is totaly insane..i could do the same with a 911..would you call it poorly made..come on man..Z06 if not build with top most quality is built with freakin good quality..
and by the way your claim for NSX-R time...please I would like to see...I have done my research and it poor thing lapped the ring in 8:09 pathetic..for the supercar(so you call it and for 462k makes it crap)...the C6 does the ring in 7:59 for 45k and the Z06 in 7:42.99 for 65k and you know what you get, modern ammenities like Heads up display, memory seats, heated seats, telescopic steering, NAV etc etc etc...show me all this in any supercar????
if you put down the Z06 to just put the car you like on a pedestial then you are ignorant and not a real car guy..I love Ferraris and Lamborghini's and all the big names but I have been stunned by what the corvette team has done..in true sense nothing could come close to the total package this super car has to offer the Z06..the only thing which will is the Z06 SS or Corvette SS or Blue Devil whatever you might like to call it...
and please back youself up on those track times, what I found is 10secs slower than C6..come on man..
For your sake i did a little more research..and it turns out that the 2900lb NSX-R with 320hp did the ring in 7:56(ppl say it was not a full lap) still only comes 3secs quicker than the 3300 lb 400hp C6..which means both these cars are about the same..lets not put NSX-R in Z06 category please..
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Every one knows that a ordinary japanese sports can outhandle the finest american sportcars.
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and please stop with this ignorant mentality..if the finest jap sports car is 4.5/5 consider the finest super cars are 5/5 then the Z06 is atleast 4.5/5 and Z06 is the finest supercar from america..so you read that atleast 4.5...they are different from american cars what most people associate with bad handling..
and another joke of a performance I heard that the NSX-R was on topgear and they could only manage 1:31 where as C6 managed 1:26 or something on those lines and let me not get into when they might have the Z06 on their track..what like 1:20 or 1:21 atleast...and those are on the worst tires man has made...